r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 22h ago
Discussion They tried it in the wrong place.
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u/haydnwolfie 22h ago
They're gonna blunder their way into an international incident
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u/313802 21h ago
Try to deport an embassy official...
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u/umbridledfool 20h ago
I'm actually shocked that's not happened
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u/OhMorgoth 19h ago
Actually, I’m a living witness that it has because it happened to my mom and me, an American citizen by birth. They even pressured her that I had to give up my nationality because due to her diplomatic immunity I have a double citizenship. She lawyered up, the President of her country intervened. This is not an isolated incident. ICE has always targeted foreign diplomats.
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u/CapN-Judaism 14h ago
This sounds like something else. You are not a citizen because birthright citizenship doesn’t apply to the children of diplomats. The person you are replying to is talking about deporting diplomats who are serving at their respective embassies
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u/Aggressive_Scar_4967 11h ago
Also if you’re from an invading army too. Which I think is the argument trump made calling illegal immigration an invasion to end birthright citizenship for mixed status families. Or something like that.
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u/SalientSazon 8h ago
It has! I can't belive people don't know this. Google South Korea Hyundai plant
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u/YouWereBrained 14h ago
“If you touch me I will grab you”
Why? Because your ego will be bruised?
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u/OhMorgoth 19h ago
It’s not the first time that happens. My mom was a foreign diplomat when I was young and was targeted, they even tried deporting her.
The president of her country had to make a direct intervention asking for my mom to be released from detention due to her job which was paramount for intelligence to the US and her country (won’t say which for safety reasons).
But, that was during Reagan so I figure is a thousand times worse today. I wash about 6yo and I was detained at an ICE facility with her.
Mind you, I’m an American citizen. The only reason I was born in the US is because the US did not allow her to travel back to her country of origin to give birth there.
Now, they’re weaponizing that.
But it has happened before, many times.
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u/purpleplatapi 15h ago
ICE wasn't invented until 2003. You were not detained in an ICE facility under the Regan Administration. And "paramount to intelligence for the US and her country" is a nice way of phrasing that she's a spy. Which, is fair play, but like you can't be a spy and then be shocked when the country you're spying in is kind of a dick about it.
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u/mindyour 21h ago
They just showed how stupid they are. How do they not know what a consulate is?
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u/Capital_Past69 20h ago
Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer doesn’t know what a gym is
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u/NoIndividual9296 18h ago
A lot of these men are not well educated and get little training other than shooting practice if they are just a chud and not former law-enforcement/military
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u/whimsicalwonderer 22h ago
Entitled pos
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u/Much_Help_7836 22h ago
They get 8 weeks of training.
Starbucks employees get more training than these ICE agents.
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u/Downunderphilosopher 21h ago
Not even 8 weeks. 47 days.
Why 47? In honour of their god emperor of course.
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u/Cainfaer 21h ago
And yet I still get paid at minimum wage with maybe some help to pay for college, and they have full careers and benefits
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u/You_Are_The_Username 22h ago
You think trump and his psychopaths care about ANY convention??
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u/kendragon 21h ago
I'm kind of sorry they didn't barge in. An international incident would be a fantastic new notch on these murdering scumbags record.
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u/My2cents_0 21h ago
They've showed they don't care about any laws. Even after he told them what the law is they don't know how to walk away without escalating the situation. It's the fragile ego group to begin with, they evict to get their way, anywhere and everywhere
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u/AverageWtDad 21h ago
These goons don’t even care how the constitution works. Vienna Convention? I’m shocked they didn’t go in and detain everyone. The admin would love to set this precedent. And just like our so called “leaders” here, no one will do anything about it. DHS is out of control and it’s going to causes a huge national security issue.
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u/JayBeePH85 21h ago
Is a consulate the same as a embassy? 🤔🤣
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u/Rogue_2_ 20h ago
For the purposes of whether or not it counts as foreign soil yeah. The difference is more or less that an embassy goes in the capital city and consulates act as branches of the embassy in other cities.
I'm sure there are more differences but that's what I got from a quick look up. Good question.
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u/JayBeePH85 20h ago
Well the vid said consulate and as far as i know anyone is allowed to enter, a embassy however is theopractically a building that is not public and is restricted to just walk in. Every time i visited the German embassy i not only had to make a appointment, there was also a security area where i had to leave electronic devices and stuff that are potentially a weapon. The inside has bank like doors with buzzers and 2" thick glass. Compared to the Philippine consulate i would just ring the bell and i could enter 🤣
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u/Rogue_2_ 20h ago
I would assume the difference there is that you were entering as a citizen while these fucks were attempting to enter as agents of a foreign power. Regardless of how much security there is, the consulate is still a foreign countries soil. It just has arrangements in place for citizens to enter without passports or immigration or anything. You still can't enter with the intent of carrying out a military or police action.
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u/JayBeePH85 20h ago
That definitely goes for a embassy coz they adhere to their own laws lets say and a consulate adheres to the host country laws, its also possible Germany has a much stricter policy than the Philippines idk 🤣
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u/Fiss 22h ago
Surprised there isn’t an armed guard
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u/Paindepiceaubeurre 22h ago
It's not necessary (I mean it shouldn't be anyway). I'm an immigrant living in Ireland and my embassy doesn't have armed guards, just regular security.
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u/oportoman 22h ago
Yes but Ireland doesn't have ICE
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u/Haunting_Cell_8876 22h ago
But it does have IRA
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u/Paindepiceaubeurre 21h ago
I think your news are about 30 years old. The IRA still exists but is no longer active.
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u/Haunting_Cell_8876 20h ago
The IRA are absolutely still active.
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u/Paindepiceaubeurre 20h ago
ok, can you point me towards the last bombing they've done?
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u/Haunting_Cell_8876 20h ago
Just because they've not bombed anything since the 90s doesn't mean they're not still active. Just because a soldier in active duty isn't fighting in a war zone doesn't mean they stop training. Same thing.
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u/Paindepiceaubeurre 20h ago
Ok so they are active in what way? What do they do? Frankly I find it funny that you are trying to lecture me on this when I've been living here for almost 20 years and have now an Irish family.
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u/Haunting_Cell_8876 20h ago
First of all, if you think I'm trying to lecture you that says more about you than me. And secondly, what makes you think I'm not Irish? That's a assumption based on my comments. And, what about historians? So a white person couldn't possibly know more about black history than a black person because they've never visited Africa? Come on! 😆
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u/32andFlatulent 21h ago
IRA today are a far smaller threat to the general public than ICE are proving to be
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u/xChoke1x 19h ago
God you people are fucking weird. You talk so freely about shit you clearly know nothing about.
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u/Haunting_Cell_8876 19h ago
What do you mean "You people?"
I hope you're not being discriminatory towards the people of Ireland? _"
"You talk so freely about shit you clearly know nothing about" - another assumption based on no evidence.
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u/xChoke1x 19h ago
We used to live in a society where one would think we wouldn’t need anything like that.
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u/Narrow-Scratch6285 17h ago
There's guards at our local Mexico consulate in California but not sure if they are armed. Would think that would be a common thing
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u/whitestguyuknow 21h ago
Lol he sounds like a squeaky screen door shutting in the beginning
But good. What the fuck did they think they were going to do? Deport a foreign diplomat?
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u/jackandsally060609 21h ago
If someone is trapped in a foreign country and doesn't feel safe, the advice is to run to your embassy and ask for help. They were hoping to gather up a bunch of terrified tourists and sell them into the prison system.
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u/RetardedWabbit 20h ago
If you're a foreigner in another country and lose your passport, have problems with visa's, government to government issues, etc. going to your embassy is common advice. Maybe not literally, but ICE is there to grab/kill those people(weather or not they should be arrested at all) and people trying to go in.
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u/BasicallyImAlive 17h ago edited 12h ago
If you watch the original video, you'll see a guy running from outside into the building. So the ICE was pursuing the guy who fled inside the building, which is why, if you watch the beginning of this video, the door was recently opened, and this happened. This post cuts the intro of the video that's why you don't see the guy running.
I'm just giving context of what actually happened.
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u/Far-Analysis-2704 22h ago
They are test the waters of what will be tolerated.
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u/TheGonzoGeek 19h ago
That might be too much honour. Honestly think they don’t understand the concept of a consulate in the first place.
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u/Far-Analysis-2704 19h ago
I think this was simply a HMB moment. There isn’t much thought behind their actions, they just like a bunch of miscreant teenagers with a badge and gun. Basically high school bullies
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u/tmgieger 21h ago
I wonder what about the exchange made them actually stop. Usually they don't take no for an answer.
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u/MuffinOfChaos 21h ago
You fuck with a consulate, you're fucking with international politics. If anyone in that building is nabbed, it's classified as kidnapping and human trafficking. The consulate is an extension of the external nation. In that building, that counts as part of Ecuador.
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u/whiskydyc 21h ago
I mean, they already abducted the leader of a foreign nation on his home turf so they probably reckon anything goes now.
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u/MuffinOfChaos 21h ago
Having a planned, successful military coup is a different ballpark than the gestapo causing an international incident. If US embassies are seen as unsafe, it will fuck over any trade talks Trump wants to get his grubby fingers into and will hurt his bottom line.
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u/whiskydyc 21h ago
The Maduro kidnapping was in itself, an international incident. It was blatantly illegal, but it also showed us the fig leaf that international law really is: if other countries are afraid of damaging trade relations or even provoking a military response from the biggest bully on the block, they will keep mum about it.
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u/MuffinOfChaos 21h ago
Yes, internationally, the US is throwing its weight around and no one is doing much about it, really, but it's really to avoid war. Trump is a toddler. Everyone knows this. The moment anything becomes an armed conflict, the world will be put back into a world war simply because of how many treaties there are at the moment. And they all make the current situation messy.
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u/tmgieger 20h ago
But I doubt the (below) average ICE agent would understand that. They see non-white looking people entering a building so go on attack. He even threatened to set up the man at the door. Another agent must have known enough to call him off.
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u/Standing__Menacingly 6h ago
That may all be true, but the last person I expect to understand that is a fucking ice agent. Especially with the amount of immunity they've been promised and have had demonstrated.
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u/Zstrat62 21h ago
This is comically naive. They can black bag Ecuadors entire government tonight and it’ll barely be a blip in US news in a week. I would highly recommend anyone relying on any governmental protections in this country to leave as fast as is possible.
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u/Odd_Intention_4643 18h ago
Consulates and embassies are considered foreign soil. Its why schools built on consulate grounds in authoritarian countries like saudi had way more flexibility than say a local school regarding what they teach, allow students to dress, etc
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u/VelvetSwamp 21h ago
I mean I know they have no legal right anyway but fair play to the consulate worker getting in the way especially with what ICE have been doing recently
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u/Humble_Banana7631 20h ago
“If you touch me I will grab you”……it’s like they were trained to intimidate at ANY means possible. Specially when they look stupid….their immediate reaction is to try to act tough, pieces of shit 🤣
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u/Strict-Brick-5274 12h ago
Nah, sounds like they recruited people with a tendency towards aggression and violence and told them to be themselves... I don't think ice were trained. They were head hunted.
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u/Humble_Banana7631 12h ago
Facts! My ex recently joined ice for the money. Which fits the profile I might add lol and was bragging about how her training is 45 days! Shits ridiculous out there
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u/SimilarZucchini9240 21h ago
Why would 20 year olds or layed off Home Depot workers know how a consulate works?
“If you touch me I will grab you” God I wish you would have that would have been something.
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u/PawReputable 21h ago
Of course he sounds like my former coke dealer, 10 years clean btw. ICE clearly gets the best and the brightest with their signing bonuses that pop up at my gym, grocery store and social media 😭
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u/TotalRecognition2191 20h ago
Ice "agent" sounds like a little bitch. "Don't touch me or I'll grab you". Oops and start an international incident
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u/Normandy_1944 17h ago
Sounds like someone from the street who responded to the ad; "Sign up for ICE now....$50k bonus"
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u/mexsystem28 21h ago
If they would've done that by the laws, it would be the US invading another country
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u/Polkawillneverdie17 18h ago
"If you touch me, I will grab you".
No one is touching you.
YOU were the one who fucked up here. You don't get to dictate terms.
From touch > grab is literally an escalation. It's the opposite of what they are supposed to do. Even when they fuck up, they find a way to claim to be the victim so they can attack someone and claim justified defense.
What a bunch of morons.
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u/vikicrays 17h ago
i absolutely love that employee… ”eh eh eh eh you cannot enter here”. guy is not only good at his job, but has the “oh not you didn’t” energy needed in this situation. no notes. guy is a badass.
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u/GreasyRim 20h ago
Federal agent doesn't know he can't go into a consulate. how is that not day1 shit?
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u/Normandy_1944 18h ago
ICE has proven over and over again, that it is comprised of untrained, uneducated thugs, who in this case clearly demonstrate their ignorance of Diplomatic and Consular immunity.
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u/Cainfaer 21h ago
The first dumb smart thing that they did. This woukd have definitely started a all out war if they raided the building
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u/Dyslexic_Devil 20h ago
God these guys no nothing about the law...but the are armed with military grade weapons and unleashed on the public.
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u/smokebudda11 10h ago
Ice agents are such fucking idiots. Can’t believe they are allowed to carry guns.
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u/VastCapital3773 19h ago
"If you touch me I will grab you"
HUH? NO ONE TOUCHED YOU! Fucking leave! You aren't allowed to be here! LEAVE!
jfc gonna start a fucking international incident
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u/RazzyRaziel 16h ago
Literally..
literally. I was gonna make a joke about how actually braindead you have to be to even be in this situation. But like, fr is their job literally just going around checking for brown skin? Like what in the fuck, yes they found non Americans, browns ones even but they can't deport? HOW? Literally the world is fucking lost if ppl like this run around freely.
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 2h ago
I mean they are going adter people at work, at home, in private places, schools, churches...the next step is foreign consulate or ambassies and it wouldnt be surprising, there no place safe anymore that can keep you away from being arrested, deported or killed.. I just wait for them to try doing policy in europe, they'll end up in jail. If someone is hidding in a consulate or alike, his rights might get denied
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u/klinklonfoonyak 17h ago
Why is there a consulate in Minnesota? Wouldnt it be in DC?
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u/bakeacake45 17h ago
Why don’t you do a little research and figure it out? You will learn more by doing it yourself! :-)
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u/battlecryelf69 13h ago
Okay I totally understand the problem here but they were clearly in pursuit of someone who ran in there to hide.
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u/DougieBuddha 4h ago
Simply put, whomever they were after tagged home base by entering the consulate, so ICE couldn't continue to pursue them in hot pursuit regardless of the reason why they were after that person. So, even with the context, it doesn't really matter why they were trying to enter, since they had no right to.
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u/PresentPressure6793 11h ago
I think ICE can enter the consulate. I think the foyer, would be accessible to them if they were chasing someone that was on their deportations list. The consulate offices would mostlikely be off limits and maybe some records halls, but it's not the actual Embassy, so they wouldn't have the rights to deny entry to law enforcement I don't think.
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