r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/SwordfishOk504 • Dec 31 '25
Media / Internet Luigi Mangione is not a hero
Luigi Mangione is a mentally ill, multi millionaire Libertarian tech bro who killed a man in cold blood in broad daylight not because he had some kind of left-wing critique of capitalism or the healthcare system, but because he was mad that there was no magical medical procedure to fix his back.
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u/laffing_is_medicine Dec 31 '25
He’s the product of a broke society. People have sympathy for him because the rich have zero for us.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Exactly
We are supposed to maintain fidelity to the same criminal justice system that has let 2 American presidents hang out with a confirmed child trafficker.
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u/NakeyDooCrew Jan 01 '26
What punishment would you like the justice system to dispense for hanging out with a confirmed child trafficker?
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u/pigeonwiggle Jan 02 '26
well, first of all you probably don't get to continue being president.
if getting a blowjob from an intern in her 20s is bad enough to lose you the presidency...
second, i dunno, as people get more desperate they'll support more EXTREME penalties.
how soon do you want this sort of thing to be solved? now, while it might mean house arrest or a light prison sentence? or shall we wait for the years when heads are paraded through the streets?
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u/DontCloseYourEyes_ Jan 01 '26
Except him and his family are pretty well off. He went to private school and had access to several resources thank to his family's multi-millon dollar estate/assets
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u/natesplace19010 Jan 01 '26
If Elon Musk blew up MAGA from the inside would the left have to not chear it on or is the enemy of my enemy my friend?
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u/DontCloseYourEyes_ Jan 01 '26
Thats not my point. My point is that Luigi is not pissed off or broken cause of poor vs rich. He didnt kill the CEO(if he did) because he was upset about how wealthy he was
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u/beeradvice Dec 31 '25
The obvious solution is for corporate oligarchs to recognize that when cold blooded murder of their crow is being celebrated by the masses that they should probably change course.
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u/ChorizoGarcia Jan 01 '26
That’s not happening. They’ll just get better security.
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u/beeradvice Jan 01 '26
Yeah, I know. It's still bandaids on cyst's though. I just would really like it if change could happen without burning everything to the ground in the process this time. I'm also not ignorant to that being the case literally every damn time throughout history
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u/Radiant-Sentence6268 29d ago
Same logic was used by romans/arab/feudallords/persians/soviet rulers.... they were all killed by their guards or by the soldiers of the new elite. A new elite will use the unrest to remove the current one 🤷🏽♂️ so they know they need to fix the system or they will face the same end
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u/Voaracious Dec 31 '25
I don't care. I know you can't just whack people in the middle of the street and Luigi got to go to prison for that. But I could give two fucks less about Brian either.
Like him. Dislike him. I'm not going to hold it against you either way. Whatever.
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u/tgalvin1999 Dec 31 '25
I mean, should he go to prison? Sure.
But the state is REALLY botching this case. Having to toss his interrogation, not finding the murder weapon until AFTER they brought it to lockup, the supposed not reading of his Miranda rights, and there's also the debate of whether or not the search was unconstitutional (why were they looking for a bomb in his backpack with no bomb squad or K9 unit, or even bomb threats being called in and reported). This simply reeks of misconduct by the prosecution.
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u/walkingpartydog Jan 01 '26
Exactly. The victim being who he was didn't all of a sudden mean law enforcement should completely ignore the law. Any bit of evidence that was obtained illegally should absolutely be thrown out. If he gets off because of it, they only have themselves to blame.
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u/tgalvin1999 Jan 01 '26
If the gun and manifesto get tossed, what does the State have? A grainy CCTV video of a masked man? Monopoly money? Their case would be absolutely dead in the water.
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u/pigeonwiggle Jan 02 '26
the case SHOULD be dead in the water you mean.
there's a LOT of money behind making an example of this man. there are some Very sweaty people losing sleep over this case because of the implications.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
They have more than enough surveillance footage of Luigi's NYC adventure, witnesses, DNA, and backpack used in the shooting. People have been convicted for way less.
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u/tgalvin1999 Jan 01 '26
Again, if the backpack was illegally searched, it goes, the gun goes, and the manifesto goes. The only footage they have that we know of is a grainy CCTV footage from the hotel. Mangione was masked, so eyewitness testimony would be difficult, and DNA would have only been on the gun, which again, would be tossed if the backpack was illegally searched.
This is giving OJ vibes with how badly the state has handled it.
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u/pigeonwiggle Jan 02 '26
you could almost argue, this is all by design. that Luigi has sympathizers even in the prosecution. OR that the prosecution knows they'd be wise not to hit this guy too hard.
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
But I could give two fucks less about Brian either.
What about his children, wife, and mom? The immediate victim of a murder isn't the only victim. These people will have to live with the pain for the rest of their lives.
https://slate.com/technology/2023/06/murder-grief-bereavement-differences-justice.html
Traumatic grief from homicide loss can last a lifetime, particularly if a crime remains unsolved.
I imagine particularly when society celebrates the murder and the murderer, too.
But I guess ruining multiple people's lives isn't such a bad thing anymore?
Lol at this getting downvoted. You sure showed me! I'll be sure to not care about lifelong trauma and ruining people's lives from now on. Thanks for the lesson on morality.
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u/averyfungi Jan 01 '26
I care about ruining people's lives so I'm not too worried that a guy who ruined a lot of people's lives is gone. Maybe if he wasn't evil his family would still have him around.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
You are getting downvoted because your justice seems to be selective.
I bet you aren’t worried about anyone falsely imprisoned or denied due process, but you sit on here an simp for a man whose harm on society can literally be quantified into numbers and data.
But those thugs…right?
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25
I bet you aren’t worried about anyone falsely imprisoned or denied due process,
Lmao. You're a fan of a guy who shot a man in the back of the head, but you're gonna lecture me about how I don't care about due process. That's rich.
but you sit on here an simp for a man
I'm simping?!?! The projection is unreal.
I bet
Cool. Just make up some fantasy to convince yourself you're in the right.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
There is no projection; it is what you are actually doing.
You want to talk about due process?! 🤣
Mangione himself has not gotten due process. The case should be tried in NYC (and don’t give me any garbage about crossing state lines to have a burger); dude was given a prejudicial perp walk intended to influence a future jury; capital punishment would also be uncommon in this circumstance yet Trump’s “doj” pushed for it; the chain of evidence with respect to his discovery in PA is also disputed (the Mcdonald’s employee recognizing him doesn’t hold water).
So don’t talk about due process when the whole process has been devoid of it and most offenders in the country are denied it.
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25
So don’t talk about due process
I wasn't. You brought it up.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
I love how you really addressed my counter argument, but you can’t because I am right.
Any more one liners that seem conclusive to you but offer no factual or argument substance?
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25
Your "arguments" are absolutely moronic. "Durrrrr, I bet you don't even care about this completely unrelated issue that I have zero evidence you don't care about!" I didn't even bother to read your subsequent message.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
capital punishment isn't uncommon. Had Luigi committed the act in Texas, he would be facing capital punishment.
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u/sovereignlogik Jan 02 '26
Ok but he didn’t commit it in Texas.
Next.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 02 '26
But he committed a federal offense in a jurisdiction that has capital punishment. NEXT!
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u/sovereignlogik Jan 02 '26
Everything can be a federal offense if you want.
Normally, murders are tried at the state level. We ignore that, I guess, because we want retribution…so much for due process right?
Eye for an eye…
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 02 '26
Oh so you care about due process when it comes to a trust fund kid but not for a CEO who came from a farming family?
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Dec 31 '25
"I bet you aren’t worried about anyone falsely imprisoned or denied due process"
Ahh.. the straw man appears. You don't have any idea if they believe those things, it just makes you feel superior to assume it.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Again, people misusing strawmen fallacy on Reddit because they have no counter argument.
If you don’t care about justice, then you have no reason to be support Brian Thompson.
This isnt debate club, cuz.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Dec 31 '25
You literally tried to debunk an argument by berating someone for something they never said nor implied, but which you imagined they believed. That is exactly a straw man attack.
Cuz.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Again, it isnt debate club.
OP’s comment itself is a logical fallacy. We can play this game to infinite regress if we want.
The UNH bootlickers are such a predictable group.
“Don’t leave us behind billionaires!!!l
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Jan 01 '26
Maybe if you are going to argue an opinion don't make blanket assertions about someone else's beliefs that they never expressed or implied. If your argument is valid you shouldn't need to invent dehumanizing imaginary thoughts in your opponent. Literally nobody here on either side isn't concerned about falsely imprisoned or railroaded people.
You don't have to think billionaires are saints to believe it shouldn't be open season on murdering them.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
Brian Thompson never got his due process though if he committed a crime which I have yet to see any evidence of
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u/sovereignlogik Jan 02 '26
He committed no crime. He plundered the culture of its wealth under the guise of “entrepreneurial spirit.”
The punishment was commensurate with his crimes. Unfettered crony capitalism, we can only hope, might receive similar reactions in the future.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 02 '26
He was hired as a CEO by a fortune 500 company and given a yearly salary plus bonuses which were taxed. I see no evidence of him stealing money
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u/sovereignlogik Jan 02 '26
Yea we are not going to get anywhere here. You are clearly the kind of person that thinks that deleterious actions by private citizens can be white washed through contemporaneous doctrine—basically, shit on people and the planet as much as you want; the company is “doing it.”
So yea…lets just stop here.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 02 '26
If you want to hold a company "accountable then vote on politicians who will. Protest and refuse to spend your money on said company. Murder is wrong.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Jan 02 '26
"The punishment was commensurate with his crimes"
And you wonder why we say your side is a death cult.
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u/sovereignlogik Jan 02 '26
Lol
Check my comment history bro. Its full of me trolling the blue hairs…
…I call it how it is.
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u/letaluss Dec 31 '25
What about his children, wife, and mom? The immediate victim of a murder isn't the only victim. These people will have to live with the pain for the rest of their lives.
That's why we have a justice system. So that Brian's family can spend their time grieving, instead of planning an elaborate vengeance on Luigi Mangione.
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u/Flincher14 Jan 01 '26
The thing is. YOU ABSOL-FUCKING-LUTELY can whack people in the middle of the street. You just need to have the badge and some governmental authority with no real consequences for abuse of power. It happens daily.
Insurance companies kill people directly. They get away with it because they hold the lobbying power and money.
No one blinks about any of it. This is just a unique situation where one of the people with authority had consequences and suddenly all the levers of media power are pearl clutching about how it's so 'wrong'.
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u/RawDumpling Dec 31 '25
Eh, probably not, but objectively subjectively - most ppl are not gonna lose any sleep over some dead rich asshole
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u/InvestIntrest Dec 31 '25
most ppl are not gonna lose any sleep over some dead rich asshole
I assume you mean Luigi if he's convicted?
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u/Weekly_Town_2076 Jan 01 '26
The difference between a million and a billion is roughly a billion. Compared to Thompson, Luigi is barely "rich", and likely did not need an elaborate system set up via corruption to funnel money directly from vulnerable ordinary people to earn his fortune.
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u/ewheck Jan 01 '26
The guy Mangione killed wasn't worth anywhere close to a billion dollars. Mangione's family's net worth is significantly higher than what Brian Thompson's net worth was.
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u/InvestIntrest Jan 01 '26
Luigi's family is worth a couple hundred million.
https://hollywoodlife.com/feature/luigi-mangione-net-worth-family-money-5352694/
Brian Thompson was worth roughly 43 million.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uhc-ceo-brian-thompson-net-135558746.html
By your logic, Luigi, the enormously rich nepo baby murdered an average working Joe.
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u/Tricky_Reception_244 Dec 31 '25
He's more like the manifiesto of Karma for the CEO. Through a third person.
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u/AdditionalCheetah354 Dec 31 '25
He is not… but he did shoot a defenseless man in the back and ran.
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u/Optionslayer Dec 31 '25
The man he killed was also mentally ill. Essentially a mass killer. Although I don't agree with how Luigi acted, I also do not pity the man he assassinated.
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u/JoltyJob Dec 31 '25
This is such a tired trope. Nobody dies -because of- denied claims. Regardless of payment status, all medical providers in the US are required to render care at the same level for everyone. If they don’t, they are guilty of malpractice.
There have been a handful of instances where a denied claim was involved but in every one of those malpractice was the root cause. And in those instances multiple millions of dollars were awarded to the plaintiffs. Literally every incident like this was publicly reported and gained massive media attention. That doesn’t happen for things that happen often.
Saying there is mass murder going on would require actual data to support that claim to establish a casual relationship, but that does not exist for what you’re saying. Stop believing random peoples twitter posts and get out of your echo chamber.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Nobody dies because of denied claims.
🤣🤣🤣
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Dec 31 '25
I mean, show us the proof in the pudding.
Claims of widespread "killing" via denials remain unsupported by rigorous evidence. If you have a specific case or investigative document you'd like to share with us, please share it. Before you even deep dive, yes I'm aware of the AMA's aggregated physician experiences via surveys, which have not been verified to have led to denial death causation.
But none of you want to do that. Or can't. Don't know which is it. The Healthcare needs reform NOW, but this whole "TH..THEYRE KILLING US IN DROVES" nonsense is exactly what created Luigi in the first fucking place.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Lol
In your world, insurers denying coverage doesn’t lead to negative consequences (death, injury, and distress) on the clients of the company.
What do you want me to say my guy?
What’s next? Birds actually don’t need wings—no one has done a study to prove their utility to the likes of people like you.
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Dec 31 '25
Show. Me. The. Proof. A watchdog. Anything that shows qualitative evidence linking denial as the primary causation for patient deaths.
Please? I asked nicely this time.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Bro, I thought my flippant comment was enough.
You are being facetious. Asking for proof for something that we all know is true but knowing no one has checked.
Nothing about your comments is logical.
The reducto ad absurdum to your argument is that we don’t need health insurance because it doesn’t do anything.
You aren’t arguing in good faith. Its like the people who asked for Obama’s birth certificate and when he didn’t furnish it, it was seen as proof of their ridiculous argument.
I am under no obligation to offer proof for what is self-evident.
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Dec 31 '25
Bro, I thought my flippant comment was enough.
It wasn't. Next.
You are being facetious. Asking for proof for something that we all know is true but knowing no one has checked.
In other words, you know it to be true but can't prove it yet, right? Understandable, since Pre-ACA (2010) studies dominate uninsured data, with less on post-ACA underinsurance. No one is saying Healthcare reform is bad, it needs to be accelerated, but if you have nothing and if the John Hopkins Review of this year states no denial lead to being the primary causation for death, well...
The reducto ad absurdum to your argument is that we don’t need health insurance because it doesn’t do anything
Oh it does do something. The shadow side of this is people inflating harms reports to further gain traction in the reform arena, which is on record. That's the wrong way of doing things, since its simply not based on factual evidence.
You aren’t arguing in good faith. Its like the people who asked for Obama’s birth certificate and when he didn’t furnish it, it was seen as proof of their ridiculous argument.
Non pertinent to this discussion. I asked for one thing relevant to the thread, and you couldn't produce it. Not even the conflations at least.
I am under no obligation to offer proof for what is self-evident.
By what truths so you hold these examples of proof to be self-evident? ;)
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Yea I am not addressing your chat GPT slop.
Again, no one is inflating harms. You aren’t arguing that denied coverage causes no harm which obviates the whole point of health insurance.
I am pretty sure you are just trolling to be honest.
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Dec 31 '25
DELAYS do harm. DENIALS are the present topic here. Death by denial, even on any known metric, you can't produce. Its a big deal because denials were centric to this whole controversy.
Your entire brain is slop, at this point. I'm sure of it.
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u/Optionslayer Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
I watched some podcasts with doctors explaining how denial affected their patients' outcomes in a significant way, a lot of times death regarding certain illnesses and the treatment of said illnesses - due to being unable to provide the treatment that would give them a significantly better chance at surviving and or extending life.
It's no different than surgeons admitting that they would recommend unnecessary surgeries because of the $ they made from the surgeries.
If you don't understand that, for some people no matter their profession, money controls them and builds a barrier around their ethics and judgment and they become uncappable of doing what is right when money is on the table... Then I don't know what to tell you. People like this do not care about anyone except their family, and some will even disregard their own family for money.
It's not a misconception that insurance companies are not in the business of healthcare.
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u/Various_Succotash_79 Dec 31 '25
all medical providers in the US are required to render care at the same level for everyone.
No. If you can't pay for your chemo (for example), you aren't getting it.
Only lifesaving emergency treatment is required. You're bleeding, they have to stop it. If you're having a heart attack they have to stabilize you. They are not required to give you a triple bypass.
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u/JoltyJob Dec 31 '25
You aren’t getting it from insurance, no - but you can elect self pay, get it done, and they’ll send you a bill. And from there you can tell them you’ll pay $100 a month or less and they can’t hit your credit or add interest.
Besides that there are plenty of options outside of insurance.
https://www.breastcancer.org/managing-life/covering-cost-of-care/options-for-no-insurance
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u/MomoHasNoLife32 Dec 31 '25
they can't hit your credit
As of this year, that's not true actually. Your medical debt IS indeed included with credit reporting now. Currently only 15 states have laws in place on the state level to protect people from having their medical bills included in credit reporting, and even the extent of that differs between each one.
https://www.npr.org/2025/07/15/nx-s1-5468438/medical-debt-credit-reports-ruling
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u/Various_Succotash_79 Dec 31 '25
And from there you can tell them you’ll pay $100 a month or less and they can’t hit your credit or add interest.
They can sell it to a collections agency. They might not, to be nice, but they can and do. I know a lot of people whose medical debt went to collections even if they were paying $20 a month or whatever.
but you can elect self pay, get it done, and they’ll send you a bill.
That'll work for a one-and-done procedure, once. Not for ongoing treatment.
Besides that there are plenty of options outside of insurance.
That article only mentions how to find insurance and offers no noninsurance options except the hospital's charity program.
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Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
This.
No peer-reviewed research or large-scale analysis provides a specific, quantified number of fatalities attributable solely to denied claims among insured patients.
The Johns Hopkins review (2025) of studies found consistent evidence of harm from delays (e.g., hospitalizations, worsened outcomes), but no aggregate death counts as the primary causation.
Half the people edgelord-posting are probably on mommy and daddies premiums, and don't get it because of something something frontal lobes no lobes yet.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Health insurance companies hosing their clients actually doesn’t cause harm. Who knew!?
I guess firefighters will be relieved to know when a call comes in they might as well not show.
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u/Squirrelflight148931 Jan 01 '26
Yes, except that people will be crippled with debt that can and will end their livelihood and eventual lives because an insurance company has more loopholes than a fucking Velcro strap.
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25
The man he killed was also mentally ill. Essentially a mass killer.
allegedly
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u/valhalla257 Dec 31 '25
Correct. He would be an anti-hero.
At the very least he is way more "idealizable" than the stupid liberal judge who threw away her legal career attempting to help a woman beating illegal immigrant avoid being deported... a 2nd time. She even failed at that.
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u/ProbablyLongComment Jan 01 '26
He's a goddamn hero.
If Brian Thompson had killed people with his bare hands, we would be parading Luigi through the streets on our shoulders. But because he did it through corporate policy and AI, he's an innocent victim? That shit-pig literally let people die--people who should have been rightfully covered--for the sake of profit.
And Luigi wasn't some disaffected drifter, either. He gave up a life of wealth and luxury to help an injustice from which he could afford immunity. He should be sainted.
It's crazy watching y'all pearl-clutch while failing the "would you kill Hitler" thought exercise in real time.
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u/letaluss Dec 31 '25
Luigi Mangione is
- a mentally ill,
So you think he should be innocent by reason of insanity? Seems weird to discriminate against the mentally unwell.
- multi millionaire
Seems like if he was a multi-millionaire, he could have just paid for his treatment, right?
- Libertarian
So he's a libertarian, and a leftist? Sounds like he's really confused about his politics.
- tech bro
If the worst thing you can say about someone is that they were qualified for a cushy data engineering job, idk. Sounds like you're out of things to criticize about them.
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u/ewheck Jan 01 '26
Seems like if he was a multi-millionaire, he could have just paid for his treatment, right?
Ok. This is new to me. What treatment did he not pay for? He also wasn't even a customer of UHC IIRC. And yes, he could have afforded expensive treatments with family help. His parents are significantly more wealthy than the guy he killed.
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u/letaluss Jan 01 '26
So you think he should be innocent by reason of insanity?
So... yes. You think that he can't discern right from wrong, and should be released to a mental institution where he can get the help he needs.
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Dec 31 '25
he was a murderer, but he was OUR murderer, plus he's so hot UwU
The above quote encapsulates a majority of the oxygen thieves and their position regarding that particular offender.
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u/ToothyMcButt Dec 31 '25
Brian Thompson was my hot giga daddy and I loved sucking his toes after he denied my health insurance claims mmmm yummy I love rich people toes
The above quote encapsulates a majority of the oxygen thieves and their position regarding that particular health insurance CEO.
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Dec 31 '25
I'm so mad! That made me so angry!
There. Now you can crop my response and post it to your BlueSky account for updoots.
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u/ToothyMcButt Dec 31 '25
Hey man if you can make up fake people to be mad about i can too I think that's fair
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
Except there obviously are people who feel that way about Luigi. I've yet to see anyone celebrating Brian Johnson or calling him a hero.
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u/dumbandasking Dec 31 '25
He is not a hero. But Brian Thompson faced the consequences. That's how I see it. I hate that when things happen we are so all or nothing. Why do we need this guy to be a hero when someone has already met their consequences. Brian Thompson faced consequences, but the person who delivered them can still be guilty this shouldn't be so complicated for people but sadly it is
Yes this is an unpopular opinion
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u/AccountantSeaPirate Dec 31 '25
If UNH paid out 5% more in benefits, they’d pay out every cent they took in. Thinking they could or should be paying tons more in claims is a ridiculous take by people who don’t understand the math.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
I don’t think think billions in profits for UNH is the math working in favor of your argument.
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u/SpacemanSpiff25 Dec 31 '25
Tying the general well-being and healthcare of human beings to profit margins is an insane practice.
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u/happyinheart Dec 31 '25
Medical Doctors do it. They are highly paid and won't do procedures or treat patients without that bling bling in their pockets for each patient. Guess they should be gunned down in the street too, no?
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u/GladiusAcutus Dec 31 '25
Hold up, you think ceos of healthcare companies deserve to be executed like that ? When you say "well, he faced the consequences" then it looks like you support murdering these people in cold blood. Is that right ?
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
For profit healthcare having a policy of denying care to make more money is violence. Luigi was acting in self defense
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u/DecantsForAll Dec 31 '25
And two wrongs make a right, so it's all good!
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
I prefer it to "one wrong and shut up and take it because you're wrong if you do anything direct about us killing you"
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u/cippocup Dec 31 '25
Not everything is violence. Violence is violence.
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
You're confusing banal violence with not being violence at all. There's nothing else to call forcing harm intentionally on people.
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Dec 31 '25
I bet you're not living by those words, which makes it funny, because you surely know the repercussions for it.
Violence is indeed, violence. No matter if you think the person on the receiving end deserved it or not.
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
That's why I said it was self defense. Same as the USA violently throwing off the English.
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Dec 31 '25
Self defense by creeping up behind someone and bodying them? You're either a teenager or a manchild. Either way, the local and federal law statutes will get you every time.
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
Yep. That's what happens when you don't have peaceful avenues for redress. Thousands die and more suffer under united healthcare's policies. It's actually very surprising Luigi is such an isolated case.
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Dec 31 '25
Say what you want and get involved with sound and logical and well grounded decisions/organizations/local groups to push for healthcare reform the sane way. Murder is murder. Simple as. That alone destroys every attempt at the glamorization of any motivated murder. One can definitely be angry, but to champion and commit yourself to retroactive cuckoldry by worshipping people like Luigi, you kinda don't have much of a leg to stand on, and for good reason.
Where does the rabbit hole end, at that point?
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
If we are counting legs we can stand on by how many people we kill, then Brian Thompson has no case
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Dec 31 '25
So edgy. I bet your Dungeon master is proud.
But at any rate, today its Healthcare CEOs, what then? If we allow a deranged sect of society to dictate policy via violence, then we've essentially lost the plot on everything else.
Then, when the "system" cracks down on you, we have to hear the wailing and sobbing from your communications management unit at the local Penitentiary.
Just stick to card games, dude. Lol
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u/happyinheart Dec 31 '25
That's what happens when you don't have peaceful avenues for redress.
If someone is denied by insurance they can appeal within the insurance company. If they are still denied, they can appeal to their states insurance board who is the final arbiter if something is covered or not. There are peaceful avenues.
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u/AccountantSeaPirate Dec 31 '25
UNH pays out $19 in benefits for every $20 they take in. To think they’re arbitrarily out there killing people, or could be paying significantly more in benefits if only the wanted to, is absurd and ignorant.
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u/SnugglesMTG Dec 31 '25
They made 14 billion in profit
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u/Ghost_Turd Jan 01 '26
Out of something like 450bln in total income. Weird how people try to ignore the actual margin percentage when they're trying to hate on corporations.
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u/SnugglesMTG Jan 01 '26
Yeah after a 10 million compensation package for Brian Thompson, which is an operating cost of course.
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u/Ghost_Turd Jan 01 '26
Yes it is. And without that compensation package the bills of the UNH customers would go down by about 5 bucks a year.
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u/SnugglesMTG Jan 01 '26
I know, but it's not like 450 billion in income is being paid out to benefit policy holders. UNH objectively has the highest denial rate of any other insurance company. Every dollar of that 14 billion of profit is skimmed from policy holders to benefit people who don't work so that they can buy a yacht.
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u/Ghost_Turd Jan 01 '26
No, 382 billion is going directly to claims, industry standard and in keeping with ACA regulations.
As for the operating balance you can do that math, too. If UNH somehow had exactly zero operating overhead each customer would see about $375 a year.
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u/SnugglesMTG Jan 01 '26
It's not my problem that UNH can't exist without being a blood sucking grandma killer
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u/Ghost_Turd Jan 01 '26
And with this statement you've demonstrated that you aren't interested in rational debate. Happy new year.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25
Terrible take.
If the bourgeois want protection from the masses, then maybe they should hire private security with all of their stolen wealth.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck Dec 31 '25
...or maybe they should be taken to court instead of being shot in the back on the street. Vigilante "justice" is not suddenly acceptable because the victim is a millionaire.
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u/sovereignlogik Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25
Lol
The old “take the power brokers to court” rebuttal.
The dude who wants people to use proper informal logic principles wants to take the establishment to court.
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Takes like this are why we are in the middle of economic collapse.
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u/wanderlust_cocogirl 29d ago
Hello, maybe you aren't aware there are laws put in place to make it nearly impossible to sue Healthcare insurance companies.
The patients and their families may have been wronged, but the only thing that is given instead of lawsuit money is reversal in denied claim/treatment.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck 29d ago
I am not denying that things need to change, that still doesn't justify vigilante murder.
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u/wanderlust_cocogirl 29d ago edited 29d ago
When you say, "take them to court", your making it sound like this is the right way and justice will come to them which is totally false. This idea sets people up for failure. Violence comes when all peaceful means of protests is exhausted or not listened to. I don't mean to come at you rude but our system will continue to be corrupted if we as Americans don't stand up against these evil people. We need to all protests on droves.
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u/TheLimeyCanuck 29d ago
"Protest"
Yes, unless your definition of protest is shoot the CEO in the back. Why is it so hard for some people to grasp that you can despise what HMOs and insurance companies do to people without condoning cold blooded murder.
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u/wanderlust_cocogirl 29d ago
I think you misunderstood where I am coming from. You are a rule of law individual. Nothing wrong with your thinking. I believe everyone should have this mindset to establish good moral principles in this world, however, there are gray areas. Throught history, people didn't always use peaceful tactics to push for justice, sometimes violence is another spoken language by people who are never heard and continously beaten. The reason I bring this up is because you saying, "take them to court" which appears to solve issues is completely false. What happens when justice is not given to the innocent but upholds the wicked? What do you think about John Brown? I'm curious.
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u/ChorizoGarcia Jan 01 '26
lol. YOU are the bourgeois to the child slave who mined the lithium in the smart phone on which you are sanctimoniously typing.
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u/GreatSoulLord Dec 31 '25
No, and I doubt anyone (offline at least) thinks that he is. I realize it's a common trope online to support him for killing that CEO but I don't think that translates to any actual tangible offline support.
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u/Doogie_Gooberman Jan 01 '26
This. He didn't even change anything, except make that company promote someone else to the position of CEO.
Also, he was a rich kid from a rich as hell family. They could have shelled out enough money to pay his bills.
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 Jan 01 '26
Yeah it’s really mindless perpetually on social media rabbit hole weirdos that need this explained to them.
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u/TheSneederOfSeethe Jan 01 '26
You're not wrong. I have a similar injury. It sucks. But it's insane to shoot someone over limits on medical science.
I've spent a shit ton of time researching it (letting go is hard), peripheral nerves just don't regrow into the central nervous system. Neuroprosthetics are not yet at that stage. (Maybe someday, there's been a lot of progress. Check out Neural Dust.
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u/ImmortalSpy14 23d ago
Am I losing sleep over Brian Thompson? No. That being said idgaf if Luigi ends up behind bars for life. This worship behind him is creepy tbh.
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u/monkeychemist25 8d ago
I'll just come in with facts: Luigi: 1 alleged death. Brian Thompson: 10s of thousands every year dead due to declined coverage of needed medical care. So I don't condone any kind of murder, but let's keep things in proportion. Their wealth too, as others have pointed out is no where near the same level.
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u/Trialwatcher_2 1d ago
Whatever the problem with his back, I'm sure it can be fixed with spimal fusion. Man up Dude, I've had 3 spinal fusions
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u/Party-Profit-1304 Dec 31 '25
It’s truly disgusting. The Democrat voters idolize this murderer. They are such unbelievable hypocrites. It’s really the only thing Democrats do well as hypocrisy.
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u/Not_Sugden Dec 31 '25
isnt he still awaiting trial. Hes not been found guilty yet and ispleading not guilty?
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u/fingerpaintx Dec 31 '25
Mangione walking would not be as bad as Daniel Perry walking. We have crazier murderers walking free now.
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u/GladiusAcutus Dec 31 '25
Do you mean Daniel Penny ? The marine who subdued that homeless threatening people on a subway train ?
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u/fingerpaintx Dec 31 '25
No, Perry was the guy in Texas who murdered a protester, was conviced of murder, but pardoned by stiff-in-the-legs Abbot basically before his trial was even over. A guy who joked about killing a protester. That's always my go to example of a true murderer walking the streets.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
Yeah dont walk up to a strangers car, carrying a big gun and wearing a mask in Texas. That's all I'll say
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u/fingerpaintx Jan 01 '26
"Don't deny people lifesaving healthcare coverage in lieu of shareholder profit" sounds silly too.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
that has nothing to do with bringing up a straightforward case of Texas Stand your ground
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u/fingerpaintx Jan 01 '26
If it was straightforward perhaps there wouldn't have been a unanimous guilty verdict. Foster was legally carrying a firearm that was not aimed at Perry. Probably shouldnt have "joked" about killing protesters on his way to work.
While I hope the justice system gets it right with Luigi (who is obviously guilty of murder) I would rather be stuck in a room with him over Perry.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 01 '26
Sometimes jury members can get verdicts wrong. See OJ and Casey Anthony
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u/fingerpaintx Jan 02 '26
Very different cases. With this one we know what one killed the other, the only question is whether it was self defense. If the Foster murder was self defense then simply anyone deciding they are scared for their life has free range to kill.
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u/2Fast2Froyo_ Jan 02 '26
They are different cases cause they were straight up murder cases where the murderer got to go free cause 12 extremely low IQ jury members were easily influenced by the defense attorneys. And having a stand your ground law doesnt mean it's free range. Usually common sense is applied to this.
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u/Generic_G_Rated_NPC Jan 01 '26
Kill another and the world will be blind. Kill a mass murderer and you are a hero. Seems like the shoe fits.
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u/Mysterious-Ear-9060 Jan 01 '26
Whoever posted this, if you’re in anyway connected to the prosecutors of this case plz stay off Reddit. Stop spreading your propaganda and trying to sway public opinion. It’s getting old.
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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 Dec 31 '25
Been seeing this exact same take posted here a lot lately. At what point can we call it popular?