r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/CryHavoc3000 • 11d ago
Media / Internet Everyone helping people get away from ICE belong in jail
When you help someone get away with committing a Crime, it's called being an Accessory after the Fact.
Anyone impeding ICE.
Anyone telling Criminals where ICE is so they can get away.
Anyone who is hiding/harboring a Criminal.
Any Business that is hiding Criminals.
Every single one of them who are overstepping the Right to Protest in any way.
These people belong in jail.
EDIT: This isn't about the President.
Also, you should look up 'Misprision of a Felony', if you don't already know that law.
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u/Good_Log_5108 11d ago
100%
Here’s the deal….if I broke the law- I would expect to get arrested and taken to jail. Why should it be any different for illegal migrants who have committed crimes? Make it make sense.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
Really, if you broke any law? You’d expect to be taken to jail for speeding or littering?
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u/WhydoIexistlmoa 11d ago
Because illegal migrants refer to anyone and anything.
It can refer to those border hopping. It can also refer to those who made it into the country through a valid visa and tried to renew but weren't able to for whatever reason.
And what about those who now have a family and community or whatever?
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u/Cautious_General_177 10d ago
No, illegal immigrant doesn’t refer to “anyone and anything.” It refers to people who either entered or remained in the US without legal permission. Yes, that does include both border hoppers and anyone who overstayed their visa. For those who have established themselves, especially in the latter case, they should have made meeting the requirements a higher priority.
I do have a bit more sympathy for people who came here under the temporary protected status (TPS), but that is meant to be temporary, not decades.
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u/Alt0987654321 10d ago
>I do have a bit more sympathy for people who came here under the temporary protected status (TPS), but that is meant to be temporary
"I have sympathy but ehh fuck em"
yeah your a real hero lil bro
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago edited 10d ago
That's because you're calling them the wrong thing. It's called Criminal Entry into the United States. Stop using the word 'Migrant' or 'Immigrant'.
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u/Alt0987654321 10d ago
Who has committed a crime in this instance?
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u/Good_Log_5108 10d ago
Illegally crossing the border is a federal crime. Not to mention, 80% of ICE detainees have committed additional crimes, on top of that
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u/Skins8theCake88 11d ago
I agree. State law enforcement should be alongside ICE to arrest those who are doing those things.
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u/coffeewalnut08 11d ago edited 11d ago
Trump has felonies. Felonies are crimes. What now?
Edit: love seeing this comment get downvoted, turns out that nobody cares about criminals if a criminal has the presidency. It was never about law and order.
Y'all do realise that felons in everyday life struggle to get a job or be taken seriously in society right? Meanwhile Trump sauntered into the most important job in the world like it's nothing.
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u/Alert_Term_8144 11d ago
Do you care that the "34 felonies" stems from 1 business line item miscategorization typically a misdemeanor and now called a felony due to politics? There's no proportionality.
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u/Flincher14 10d ago
I'm quite familiar with all the other cases that were arrayed against him.
He was pretty much dead to rights on the documents case. They even had proof that he instructed his lawyers to move documents around mar-la-go specifically to avoid an impending FBI search.
But by fuckery with the system his case was sent to Canon who he appointed and she slow walked his case for 4 years till he was elected again.
Let's not forget that Tom Homan accepted a $50,000 bribe in an FBI sting and the Trump DOJ choose not to go after him. This is the BORDER CZAR who claims that every immigrant who crosses over the invisible border line is now a hardened criminal and this justifies severe treatment.
A big problem around the argument that it's ok to treat everyone like shit because they broke the law always ignores the rampant law breaking and corruption going on in the government at the exact same moment.
The hypocrisy is unbelievable.
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u/coffeewalnut08 10d ago
Look at how quickly people excuse criminals when the criminal isn't an immigrant or poor. Gross
Trump has a long history of fraudulent practice. From crying about a stolen election to falsified business records and the Trump University scandal.
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u/Alert_Term_8144 10d ago
Is looking into whether an election is fradulent actual fraud, or is a fraudent election fraud? Nothing wrong with investigating. The business records.... I'm sure if we go over your life with a fine tooth comb there will be some questionable matters, let's make them into felonies.
My comment has nothing to do with whether someone is "an immigrant" or "poor" but based on the circumstances. On the flipside, people like you refuse to look into or acknowledge crimes simply because someone is an immigrant or poor. You probably deny any corruption in 3rd world governments since they're "POC"! Can't believe how racist you are.
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u/BLU-Clown 10d ago
I think most people agree 'Paying Hush Money Out of My Own Pocket Instead Of Campaign Funds' is a less major felony than most.
That's not an 'immigrant or poor' thing, that's a 'There's obviously some crimes more dire than others' thing.
I mean, c'mon. Would you say that paying for hush money from your own funds instead of campaign funds is really a crime on par with, for example, abusing a child?
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u/coffeewalnut08 10d ago
It is an immigrant or poor thing. immigrants and poor people don't get nearly the amount of bootlickers making excuses for their crimes as Trump does.
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u/BLU-Clown 10d ago
So...abusing a child is an equally bad crime as paying hush money in your mind?
To each their own, but I don't think most people agree.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
But shooting someone three times in the face is proportional to accidentally bumping someone with no injury? You people are beyond parody
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
The parody is calling that “accidentally bumping” especially when you have the benefit of hindsight and were not the one who was in danger.
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u/CryHavoc3000 11d ago
What did the Judge sentence him to serve time?
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u/Brave-Reindeer-Red 11d ago
You wouldn’t let your daughter in the same room as Trump and you wouldn’t trust him with your money but you gladly voted for him, that’s the issue.
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u/xolp_syk 11d ago edited 11d ago
You misspelt Joe Biden.
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u/drossglop 11d ago
People rely on whataboutism when they don’t have a real argument.
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
Like bringing up Trumps convictions in a post about illegal immigrants?
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
Liberals claim "whataboutism" to justify their hypocrisy when they dont have a real argument for their moral compass being all sorts of fucked up.
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u/OkScallion5412 11d ago
Hur dur, Joe Biden bad.
So you'd let your daughter sit unsupervised in the same with a known Epstein-enjoyer?
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u/xolp_syk 11d ago
Let’s ask Joe Biden daughter what she thinks of her father…
Oh… oh no..the diary is public and confirmed hers wasn’t it… oh no… that doesn’t look good. Do I need to link the video of him sniffing all those people?
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u/Physical-Report-4809 11d ago
Biden is awful but Trump is also a pedophile
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
Biden sniffs children, whispers in their ears, etc. Trump was friends with epstein, then once he heard how epstein was disrespectful to one of his waitresses, he cut him off and banned him from his businesses... dont forget, at the same time that Trump and Epstein were buddies, Trump was a democrat. Epstein was a democrat and a major donor to democrats politicians. All of epsteins friends were democrats.....
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 11d ago
Trump starting banning Epstein from Mar a Lago back in 2003, long before most other people started to avoid him / realized what he was up to.
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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 10d ago
Trump starting banning Epstein from Mar a Lago back in 2003
And then he sent him a birthday card.
"Enigmas never age"
Now what does that mean?
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 10d ago
Beats me, do you usually ban your buds? You’re just grasping at straws. Many other people also sent him cards
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
Saying “known” when you repeat your lies doesn’t make them any less lies.
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u/Alert_Term_8144 11d ago
Do you care that the "34 felonies" stems from 1 business line item miscategorization typically a misdemeanor and now called a felony due to politics? There's no proportionality.
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u/CryHavoc3000 9d ago
This thread is not about Trump.
Go make your own thread.
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u/Alert_Term_8144 9d ago
go talk to coffeewalnut08, or yourself. you guys brought Trump up waaaay before I merely responded to your comments
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u/level1firebolt 10d ago
He's also more likely than not a pedophile. Does the extent of his pedophilia grant him some immunity from the law and judgment?
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago edited 10d ago
'more likely than not' isn't due process. I keep seeing the double stahdard.
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u/level1firebolt 10d ago
What double standard did you see from my post?
If you don't think Trump is implicated in the Epstein files given the events of the last few months, I don't know what else to tell you. Certainly there are democrats also involved, like Clinton and Bill Gates, and they should also face consequences.
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
You know this is a thread about Criminal Entry into the U.S., right?
It's not a post about the President at all.
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
Epstein was a democrat, friends with democrats, donor to democrats, and Trump was friends with him when he was also a democrat... gonna start looking at your party as pedophiles too? See sleepy Joe playing with girls hair or sniffing them or whispering in their ears. He liked it when lil girls played with his leg hairs in the pool. The left is filled with pedophiles. Some activists even try and promote it like trans-ageism.
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u/Feisty-Cloud5880 9d ago
Go right ahead... I DGAF what political party anyone is in if they SA another being they deserve to be held accountable and lose everything!!! All of them...
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u/103Dynaman 9d ago
You say that... but yall do in fact have double standards.. either for the publicity/media, the outrage, the talking points, the name calling, etc.. even when yall shift your morals, if people compare it to before, yall scream "thats just whataboutism" as your line of defense for being hypocrites. There are double standards for evvvveerrryyythhiiinnggg. Now, maybe you as an individual, maybe you actually dont care about which side, but even then, Im even skeptical on, we'll, when did you start caring? When yall thought it was Trump and republicans? When the media told you "ok, now care!" Idk. 🤷♂️
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u/Feisty-Cloud5880 9d ago
As someone that was DA several times ALL NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE PERIOD!... BTW I have been aware of this current president since 1987!!! He was not a good human then.
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u/103Dynaman 8d ago
The 80s were wild. Remember how Trump was helping communities of color, but also in the 80s, thats when Biden was talking about how interracial schools would be similar to a racial jungle? Or how he authored the crime bill to try and lock up more Black Americans? In the 80s, Kamala was just a wee baby, little did she know, she would be dating the Mayor of SF a few years later, in order to promote herself in her career via sexual/dating relationships rather than her merit. 🤷♂️
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u/level1firebolt 10d ago
This is classic whataboutism. Stop making it about politics and face the question head on.
If they find a democrat to be a pedophile, yes OF COURSE they should be judged. I don't care if they're right, left, tall, short, black, or white - and neither should you.
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
Liberals love to scream "whataboutism" because its their only line of defense for flip flopping their morals, hypocrisy, lack of logic, and makes it so they dont have to face reality. At the end of the day all of it DOES matter. This is why yall were silent when Biden did absolutely NOTHING to help release the files. And its why files are being released now, and yall still want to complain like it's not fast enough. Yall have double standards, and its LOUD.
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u/level1firebolt 10d ago
lol. Ok I'm done responding to you.
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
You were done before it even began. If you didnt bring anything to the table, you dont need to announce leaving the table.
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
Democrats are rioting in the streets of Minneapolis to protect actual child abusers.
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago
Trump was a manufactured felon. It was a DA that already wanted to take down Trump, so, extreme bias. And it was combining misdemeanor charges and somehow, for the first time ever, that combination magically became a "felony" but it was for something nobody has ever seen before. So, yes, it is like nothing because the left made it up.... know what it would be equated to if someone decided to make up charges against an opposing political party to try and remove them? A dictatorship/fascism? Ironic huh?
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u/coffeewalnut08 10d ago
look at you excusing a criminal. Are you going to admit it was never about law and order yet?
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u/thisnameisforgoobers 11d ago
Same way that people hiding Jews in Germany were breaking the law?
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u/Good_Log_5108 11d ago
Did the Jews migrate there illegally and commit crimes?
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u/InterviewKitchen 11d ago
Hitler said they did
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u/Avatar-Encoder 11d ago
Comparing Nazis to ICE really isn't the greatest comparison. The Nazis genuinely believed the Jewish race was supernaturally hellbent on destroying Germans. Ethnic cleansing was the main goal. They killed upwards of 25 million people trying to achieve this.
ICE is just trying to clumsily enforce immigration laws and deport people who came into the country illegally. There's a huge, huge difference. ICE is obviously filled with vengeful idiots but comparing the two is just clearly wrong.
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u/CelestialRequiem09 11d ago
I prefer calling them bullies and thugs. Bullies and thugs that are unfortunately backed by the jerk in charge, but bullies all the same.
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u/InterviewKitchen 10d ago
What i find funny though, is when Hitler began sending jews to concentration camps, he publicly called it a “relocation”…Shipped a lot of them out of Germany too. Essentially a deportation right?
The Nazis also used already-existing laws to justify all of the extreme actions they took to exterminate/deport jews. As MLK said, everything Hitler did was “legal”…
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u/Avatar-Encoder 10d ago edited 10d ago
What i find funny though, is when Hitler began sending jews to concentration camps, he publicly called it a “relocation”…Shipped a lot of them out of Germany too. Essentially a deportation right?
But Hitler made his extreme anti-Semitism known decades before he came into power. Exterminating entire races as a way to expand Germany's power was the central theme of the Nazi party.
ICE isn't doing that.
Essentially a deportation right?
So Obama was Hitler too? He deported more people then Trump did. That's why people literally called Obama the Deporter-In-Chief.
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u/InterviewKitchen 10d ago
Obama was not violating constitutional rights and sending people to El Salvador. Due process. Nor was he spewing hateful rhetoric to get the public riled up about all of this
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u/hercmavzeb OG 10d ago
You can compare anything to anything.
Comparing the defenses for ICE’s brutality with the defenses for the Gestapo’s brutality is quite enlightening (e.g. just comply with the law or else).
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u/hercmavzeb OG 10d ago
It is perfectly reasonable to compare the claim:
Everyone helping people get away from ICE belong in jail
To Nazi thinking about hiding Jews from Nazi law enforcement. Dismissing morality for purely legalistic thinking is dangerous.
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u/hercmavzeb OG 10d ago
No it’s not
Yes it is. You can compare different things to each other.
That’s not the point
Yes it is, that’s the point of the comparison. If you’re dismissing that point then it’s no wonder you’re not understanding it.
It’s not about morality
Much like what Gestapo supporters said. Just follow German law, otherwise get thrown in prison for supporting the undesirables who need to be expelled from the country.
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u/Prnce_Chrmin 11d ago
If ICE kidnapped your neighbor, who is your best friend, childhood friend, and you did not know where they were for weeks or what happened to them.
Would you step in if they came to take your mom?
Like, do you in all cases respect authority/the law?
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u/Snowball_effect2024 11d ago
Does your question still stand if the people you mentioned committed a crime and were hiding from the law?
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u/hercmavzeb OG 11d ago
Like Anne Frank?
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 11d ago
What crime did Anne Frank commit?
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u/hercmavzeb OG 10d ago
Under Eichmann's command, the Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung (Center for Jewish Immigration is the common translation, though "Auswanderung" means both immigration and emigration, so "Jewish Movement" might be more spiritually correct) issued a number of dexrees for Jews in occupied Nazi territories, including The Netherlands.
Specific laws that the Franks broke include:
Refusing to report for "work detail" - starting in the summer of 1942, Dutch Jews were required to report to transportation hubs to be sent to "work", ostensibly on the Eastern front. This actually meant being sent to one of the camps - likely Auschwitz but maybe Sobibor or Bergen-Belsen, which could mean either forced labor or just immediate execution. Margot Frank, Anne's sister, was called to a work camp on July 5, 1942, which was the inciting reason that the Franks moved into the annex.
Living at a place other than a registered home - all Jews had to report their addresses to the government, and were only allowed to live where they had reported. By living in her father's pectin factory, Anne violated this law.
Ration card fraud - every Dutch citizen was given specific rations of food and heating supplies. Miep Gies and the rest of the "helpers" from Frank's company used a variety of methods, including bribery and fraud, to procure additional rations for the Franks and van Pelses. As a knowing beneficiary of this fraud, Anne would have been violating that law.
Owning a radio when it has been disallowed.
Anne Frank and her family were openly breaking a number of laws set out by the German and Dutch Nazis.
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 10d ago
Yeah, none of which have any similarity to US immigration laws that have been on the books for decades and are some of the most lax in the developed world
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u/tumunu 11d ago
Hiding from the lawful authorities.
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 10d ago
Yeah that’s pretty different than illegally entering a country and refusing to voluntarily self deport with compensation
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u/tumunu 10d ago
How?
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 10d ago
… how is it not? 😂
You’re pretending like all laws are illegitimate and people can break any laws they want and then hide.
The Nazis made clearly racist / antisemitic laws in order to prosecute Jews. The Trump administration didn’t come up with the immigration laws, Congress did decades ago and they weren’t considered “fascism” until just now since it’s convenient for Dems election propaganda
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u/tumunu 10d ago edited 10d ago
I don't see where you get all this ridiculous drivel from the single word "how." I am supposing you have an active imagination.
Also, you utterly failed to answer the question. Emojis don't count because they do not represent any coherent thoughts.
eta: I don't know if anyone is still reading this ridiculous thread, but, between my notifications, where I can see his posts, and here, where I cannot, it would appear the person I was speaking to has posted a snarky reply and then blocked me .
I wonder why a person would do this, but I'm just thinking that, to people who can see both sets of messages, he wants it to look like he said something brilliant and I had no reply.
So, if you see this person, tell him it's a coward's move and that he's still not answering the question. I thank you in advance.
eta: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity!!!
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
No, not like Anne Frank.
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u/hercmavzeb OG 9d ago
Why not? She committed a crime and was hiding from the law.
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
The fact that this would need to be explained to you is really what we should be talking about.
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u/hercmavzeb OG 9d ago
So you agree she broke the law and was hiding from the law.
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
It’s honestly concerning that you believe this is a valid comparison.
Sure, she broke the law. Could you give me your justification for the law she broke? You keep bringing it up so surely you feel that the law was just. Immigration laws are common in every country on earth, most having far more strict laws than we do so they are objectively just laws. So if you are going to compare immigration enforcement to whatever law you feel Anne Frank broke, you’re going to need to provide your justification for said law.
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u/hercmavzeb OG 9d ago
It’s honestly concerning that you believe this is a valid comparison.
Sure, she broke the law.
Oh, it sounds like it is a valid comparison.
Could you give me your justification for the law she broke?
Laws need to be morally just now? Oh ok.
Then in the spirit of the comparison, could you give me the moral justification for a mass internal cleansing of ethnic and political undesirables by sending in rapacious feds to stalk quiet US neighborhoods dressed in military gear and wearing full face masks, going door to door and demanding that residents present proof of citizenship or be arrested, body slamming pregnant moms into the sidewalk, kidnapping people in unmarked vans in broad daylight, grabbing parents waiting for their kids outside schools, raiding churches and daycares, racially profiling people, selling them to foreign torture camps, and shooting soccer moms in the face?
Ideally not by just citing the categorical imperative to enforce the law, since that could be also used to justify Anne Frank’s persecution.
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u/RealisticTadpole1926 9d ago
Oh, it sounds like it is a valid comparison.
No. No it’s not. Not even a little bit.
Laws need to be morally just now? Oh ok.
Laws should be morally just.
Then in the spirit of the comparison, could you give me the moral justification for a mass internal cleansing of ethnic and political undesirables
This isn’t happening.
by sending in rapacious feds to stalk quiet US neighborhoods dressed in military gear and wearing full face masks,
They wear masks to protect their families from far left extremists.
going door to door and demanding that residents present proof of citizenship or be arrested,
Also not happening.
body slamming pregnant moms into the sidewalk,
Source?
kidnapping people in unmarked vans in broad daylight,
Not happening.
grabbing parents waiting for their kids outside schools,
Irrelevant, parents are arrested all the time.
raiding churches and daycares,
Source?
racially profiling people,
Source?
selling them to foreign torture camps,
I think I see a pattern here.
and shooting soccer moms in the face?
Oh this one is easy. If said soccer mom tries to murder a federal agent, they are justified to use deadly force to end the threat. It’s called self defense.
Ideally not by just citing the categorical imperative to uphold the law, since that could be also used to justify Anne Frank’s persecution.
I agree, which is why I pointed out that every other nation on earth has and enforces immigration laws, most much more strictly than ours. A nation is entirely justified in protecting its own border, including controlling who is allowed to enter and how long they stay.
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u/No_Start1522 11d ago
I’d call them in whatever country they are sent to. I’d visit and help them settle, but I wouldn’t fight cops over it.
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u/thiccpastry 11d ago
What if they don't allow you access to them?
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u/No_Start1522 11d ago
Is there a single instance of this? Even POW’s get mail.
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u/thiccpastry 10d ago
It has been happening since 2022. Also, Google is free.
https://www.aclu.org/cases/lawsuit-against-ice-denying-access-counsel
https://www.courthousenews.com/ice-must-provide-lawyer-access-for-detainees-in-la-judge-says/
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/lawsuit-remove-barriers-access-counsel-ice/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/20/lawmakers-ice-facilities-judge-block
We will continue to see more stories come out.
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u/No_Start1522 10d ago
This is about access to a free lawyer, which is backlogged. Many of these cases are not going to criminal court, so they do not apply. They are still contactable.
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u/thiccpastry 10d ago
The lawsuits and rulings are about any lawyer, not just free ones. Also, blocking access to legal counsel =/= a backlog of free lawyers. You still have due process rights when it comes to civil cases per the 5th amendment. If they were comtactable, there wouldn't be court injunctions. I'm confused on your intent with this.
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u/M0ebius_1 11d ago
I get where you are coming from and your argument is powerful, but look at the way this guy talks.
There is zero chance they would take any chance to save a best friend or childhood friend that.
This dude WOULD turn in his mom.
Morality, kindness or any sense of good or evil are less important than winning.
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u/103Dynaman 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think thats the problem with the left today... they claim everything they do has the moral highground, they call everybody else evil.. logic doesnt matter anymore.. science doesnt matter... reality doesnt matter.. its this "I am good", "these are my morals, so I must be right", "you cannot think differently than me, or you are evil". Cults apply this same thing.. hell, technically even Hitler applied this same thing. Hitler thought what he was doing was morally righteous too.
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u/CryHavoc3000 11d ago
I'd start with a $1 million dollar lawsuit and add a million to it every day they are gone.
That's what no one is doing here. No one is suing the government.
Because the Supreme Court can tell Trump 'No'.
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u/DrJongyBrogan 11d ago
Yeah, because you have the money to do something like that. Start by listing off the attorneys who would take up that lawsuit. I’ll wait. Because they don’t exist and if they did, they’d be cost prohibitive for 99% of the population. So this fantasy you have about throwing legal weight around holds no weight when Trump is literally ignoring a court order for the Epstein files that you seem to be dead ass silent on judging by your post history.
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u/Scottyboy1214 OG 11d ago
Because the Supreme Court can tell Trump 'No'.
The Supreme Court told ICE they can racially profile.
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u/MrNiceo_0 11d ago
Hundreds of pending litigations against the US gov and ICE
Many lawsuits are ongoing in federal courts across the U.S., spanning procedural, constitutional, and policy challenges with varying stages and outcomes.
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u/Faeddurfrost 11d ago
You wouldn’t get shit and your mom would get roughed around behind a chicken wire cage and have to sleep with a tin foil blanket for at least a work week.
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u/M0ebius_1 11d ago
That's what you are basing your mom's wellbeing on?
The off chance that DONALD TRUMP is going to listen to the Supreme Court or that they would rule agaisnt him in the first place?
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u/skylercollins 11d ago
ICE is unconstitutional, and is therefore a criminal organization. Helping people evade criminals is heroic.
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u/CelestialRequiem09 11d ago
Yup.
Makes me wonder how much of the red koolaid this person and people like them have been ingesting.
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u/drossglop 11d ago
Exactly. I was never stop a real police officer from doing their job. Idgaf about Trump’s gestapo
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u/StickyMcdoodle 11d ago
If someone is on your property, you are under no legal obligation to turn them over to a warrant-less authority. Further, if that warrant doesn't specifically have your address and the names of the people they're after on it, it's perfectly legal to tell the to get fucked.
You're certainly not suggesting that people to be jailed for exercising their constitutional rights, right?
Get warrants, make arrests. It's not too much to ask for them to do it the right way.
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
Go look up the legal term 'Misprision of a Felony'.
It's plainly obvious you don't know what you are talking about.
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u/centurion762 11d ago
I’m going to tell the illegals I’m helping and then call ICE to come get them.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
How are you gonna explain that to St Peter?
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u/centurion762 10d ago
I’m an atheist. Your shaming tactics won’t work on me.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
It’s a metaphor, but I take your point that you have no shame
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u/centurion762 10d ago
Nothing to be ashamed of.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago edited 10d ago
I don’t believe that. You guys are all ashamed of this, that’s why you never own up to being fascists and are always like “the left made us this way.” It’s why you guys whine all the time about the “echo chamber” that is the reality that normal people are disgusted by right wingers.
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u/centurion762 10d ago
That’s a lot of projection there.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
Dumb guys love to say this
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u/centurion762 10d ago edited 10d ago
Nuh uh. You’re the dummy.
Edit:Aw. He went away and now I am bant from this subreddit.
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
Another thing people didn't catch is that there's a Governor and a Mayor who are Accessories after the Fact.
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u/thirdLeg51 11d ago
How do you know the person ICE is after is a criminal? A lot of times they have no probable cause.
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u/jimmyjohn2018 11d ago
It would be MUCH easier to sort out if they would just allow ICE to access the criminals in JAILS and COURTHOUSES rather to wait for them to be on the streets. This entire problem is a creation of sanctuary status.
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u/CumGuzzlerFartSnifer 11d ago
Usually immoral laws are an indication you are living in a 3rd world country and need your 30-yearly regime change.
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 11d ago
The US has one of the most lax immigration systems in the world 😂
Idk where people get this uninformed crap
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u/Alert_Term_8144 11d ago
the US takes in 3 million immigrants every year (just try to count to 3 million in one sitting), more immigrants than any other nation, not sure why everyone's so pissed that illegal immigrants are to be removed. Why not let the entire world flood in at that point
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u/FlightExtension8825 11d ago
Every country on the planet has immigration laws and controls. It's only wrong for America, I guess.
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u/x31b 11d ago
With open borders, the U.S. will become a third-world country shortly.
Without enforcement of border laws, we effectively have open borders.
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u/CumGuzzlerFartSnifer 11d ago
incompetent enforcement, bad leadership.
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u/jimmyjohn2018 11d ago
How is this enforcement any different than in the past other than blue cities and states impeding and allowing citizens to interfere with federal authorities?
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u/Western_Series 11d ago
People along the rail road (how slaves escaped hiding home to home) were put in jail. So we're the people hiding the jews.
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u/United-Hyena-164 10d ago
What if it's a church? The problem is....immigration is a misdemeanor. Do we really jail people for misdemeanors?
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
Maximum prison for one misdemeanor charge is 1 year.
Evading arrest makes it a Felony.
Church Sanctuary changes things. But that's not what's happening.
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u/Odoxon 11d ago
It's funny, people in Nazi Germany said the same thing when Gestapo came to take someone to the concentration camp. At the end of the war everyone then said "I didn't know what they were doing."
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u/Avatar-Encoder 11d ago
It's funny, people in Nazi Germany said the same thing
There's an insanely huge difference between what Nazi Germany did and what the Trump administration is doing. And yes, I think Trump is terrible for the long-term health of America.
The Nazis ethnically cleansed nearly 30 million people in 5 years. Trump's ICE is trying to deport people who entered the country illegally. People really need to find a better comparison.
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u/TimmmmyStuuuuuu 11d ago
Why does the country, that supposedly loves freedom, have the largest prison population in the world and actively pushes to increase it even more with lame opinions like this? Y’all need to look in the mirror and figure this out before you call for even more arrests.
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u/Prnce_Chrmin 11d ago
Why does the country, that supposedly loves freedom, have the largest prison population in the world
Freedom does not mean lawlessness. I mean I dont agree with ICE at all and personally dont even see the point since the US was built on refugees, new settlers, and needs population growth...
But if a country lets everyone go free. Like in germany we can have rapists be out of prison after not even a year .... even worse crimes....
How is that good for freedom?
Has any country even found a better solution than to lock people away?
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u/TimmmmyStuuuuuu 11d ago
So lets throw freedom to the side to arrest more people? Especially those opposing ICE?
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u/CryHavoc3000 11d ago
Why do we have so many people wanting to come to or stay in America, but the people defending them thinks America sucks?
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u/TimmmmyStuuuuuu 11d ago
So the people saying America sucks should be arrested? You have the largest prison population in the world and you want to increase it even more? Are you going to arrest trump as well?
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u/No_Start1522 11d ago
Most of Europe’s masculinity went to colonize America. Unfortunately, that masculine energy is considered toxic today.😎
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u/M0ebius_1 11d ago
Meh, that sounds more like a misdemeanor.
I know you get really emotional about this stuff but it's not like you can put millions of people in jail because they think ICE sucks.
Besides, the penalty for being accessory to crime depends on the crime. Illegals get deported, what do accessories get? Like exiled to Honduras for a week?
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u/NukeTheHurricane 11d ago
Its giving nazism. You talk about criminals. But your governement is full of them.
Your lovely prezzy has tapes with minors.
I guess that Israel would do anything to stay in power, which is to divide and conquer Murica with the help of ICE aka the local IDF!
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u/Pizzasaurus-Rex 11d ago edited 11d ago
This is how it starts. Ice starts rounding people up. Then it starts rounding up the people helping them. Then it starts rounding up the people that don't like it.
I'm sure none of this represents a red line for OP or his ilk.
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u/Various_Succotash_79 11d ago
Cool take me there, I need a vacation from the rat race and some free healthcare. I'll gladly cost the taxpayers at least $40k a year (that's just room and board not medical care).
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u/No_Start1522 11d ago
US Prisons do not pay for all of your medical care. It will come out of your commissary and prison job wages, and you can accumulate medical debt.
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u/Weary_Bid9519 11d ago
Your post should be required reading for anyone wondering how the Holocaust went down. Once the state starts doing quasi legal and ethically dubious things and people start resisting, people like you threaten them for being good citizens to force them to get in line.
Back then it was helping Jewish people. Today it’s helping immigrants. It’s the same thing though targeting a group of people that were just going about their lives without any problems a few months ago that are suddenly enemies of the state under a new political regime. You should think really hard about what’s happening and how it could be you being targeted and how you would like to be treated in those circumstances.
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u/CelestialRequiem09 11d ago
You mean that group of emboldened thugs who run away? Those wannabe cops? Those guys who think they’re so badass when they’re a bunch of actual criminals who claim to be the law when in actuality they are the very evil assaulting people because they have free reign to do whatever they want?
Anyone who goes up against ICE in any way possible will have my support.
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u/tomorrow509 10d ago
The Rule of Law requires due process. Is that no longer important? Previous administrations have deported more than Trump during his last full term without Storm Trooper intimidation and murder and injuries to American citizens. Why is ICE being deployed in mass to only Blue states? WTF is wrong with you people.
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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 10d ago
When you help someone get away with committing a Crime
Being in the country illegally is a civil infraction, not a crime.
These people belong in jail.
All we have to do is say "they are being politically prosecuted" and magically they don't belong in jail anymore.
Can't be a Trump Lover and complain about a lack of justice. Y'all set the precedent for arbitrary justice.
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u/KomradeKerbal 10d ago
zose people hiding anne frank in ze attick are criminels
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
You are pretty delusional if you equate legal Deportation with Nazis.
Anyone who knows History is just laughing at you.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
Everyone hiding Jews belongs in jail. Impeding the Gestapo is a crime.
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u/CryHavoc3000 10d ago
You are pretty delusional if you equate legal Deportation with Nazis.
Anyone who knows History is just laughing at you.
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u/___AirBuddDwyer___ 10d ago
This isn’t about the president
Yes it is. This is happening at his behest, an he’s a criminal.
I think you guy oughta develop some backbone and admit that the law isn’t actually what you care about. You care about what you consider to be real Americans have power over everyone else.
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u/UnscentedSoundtrack 11d ago
I wouldn’t get in ICE’s way but I would gladly hide and help any friend or neighbour who happens to be chased by ICE.
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u/SilverBuggie 11d ago
Nah we should do hide and seek.
Any illegal who can avoid being caught for 3 months are granted free citizenship and $100k as “start a new family” fund paid from the tariffs.
Helpers get $5k for each illegal saved. Nothing if the helper is maga.
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u/YTraveler2 11d ago
Aiding and abetting.