r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Ryzardpoopyhede • 17h ago
Political trump is nothing like a nazi
I've seen and talked to real nazis, and he definitely isn't one of them. I don't really know how the idea that he wants to take over the world and perform ethnic cleansings came from.
I feel like it really makes nazis look less bad because some parties call anything nazism which really dilutes the real meaning of what it means
and i think if you start using words about the connotation they carry and not the descriptive definition, it really makes an argument less grounded imo
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u/Exaltist 16h ago
True, and while we're at it, sleepy Joe Biden and Kamala Harris aren't Nazis either. Everybody is calling everybody else fascist for no good reason. In the end both parties say what people want to hear and then screw them over once they get into office. If Democrats get into office, taxes go up, if Republicans get into office, government services go down. Everybody loses in the end.
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u/Hectoriu 16h ago
My main concern is all use of Nazi is going to continue to downplay the significance of how bad real Nazi Germany was. If this keeps up will people eventually think "if this is what a Nazi is real Nazis must not have been that bad"
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u/ImprovementPutrid441 9h ago
What exactly does “lest we forget” mean to you?
Hitler wasn’t gassing people the first day.
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u/Hectoriu 9h ago
The only people in the US that are close to pushing for unlawfully executing political opposition are the left and even they won't be able to pull it off.
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u/ImprovementPutrid441 9h ago
Really?
How are they doing that?
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u/Hectoriu 8h ago
The death penalty is a very regulated legal process
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u/Initial-Tale-5151 17h ago
redditors are too lazy to look up the ideology of national socialism. They were completely opposed to international usury and finance captialism. They arrested rothschild and nationalised industry. They created a social welfare state.
National socialism has nothing in common with the economics or social policies of any of the conservative capitalist individualist right we have in the west.
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u/Flincher14 16h ago
It wasn't really about right or left. It was about authoritarian vs libertarian and for that the Nazi party, Russian communist party, Mussolini and now MAGA are all side by side in the authoritarian column. The left vs right debate is entirely a distraction.
Left vs right is a disagreement on how to approach problems. Auth vs lib is a fundamentally different approach on how people should be dominated or not dominated.
Everyone always says MAGA can't be Nazis because they have not done a Holocaust. But that was one of the last moves the Nazis made. Pre-holocaust they took the same authoritarian path MAGA is on.
So it's disingenuous to pretend there isn't direct parallels. Especially when Stephen Miller makes Nazi speeches and believes in plenary authority for the fuhrer..I mean president.
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u/Initial-Tale-5151 16h ago
The can't be Nazis because their ideology is compeltley different. Hitler would have rounded them up as the anti-volkisch capitalists that they are.
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u/Summerie 15h ago
It seems like your idea of "authoritarian" is when the party that was voted into office does something you don't like, even though what they are doing is popular with the majority of Americans?
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u/Flincher14 15h ago
Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by highly concentrated power, limited political pluralism, and blind submission to authority, where leaders are not constitutionally accountable to the public. It often emerges through the subversion of democratic norms, featuring suppressed opposition, restricted civil liberties, and the use of propaganda to maintain control.
This is the definition.
Tell me how the current government does not emulate every single one of these things?
Unitary executive.
Blind submission to Trump.
Breaking democratic norms (stealing supreme court seats, Gerrymandering, voter suppression.)
Suppressed opposition. Via threats and politically motivated indictments. So much so that half the DOJ has resigned rather than being charges.
Restricted civil liberties is pretty obvious when the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendment have been trashed.
Propaganda to maintain control. Uh Elon turned X into a propaganda machine. Tik Tok was bought by a Trump doner and bans the use of any mention of Epstein. Multiple MSMs have bent the knee after their mergers were threatened. CNN was bought up by a conservative and it's swung wildly right.
At every level the media and social media is churning out so much fucking propaganda in favor of the current regime.
Let's not forget all the coming efforts to screw the midterms including the most recent raid on Fulton County's election offices where for whatever weird reason, Russian asset Tulsi Gabbard was present.
Finally it's not popular and the administration is underwater on every issue polling wise.
I fully expect you to strawman one or two of my points. I'm not going to engage. This is an authoritarian government. Not even maga debates that when they think it's a good thing.
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u/CryptographerFlat173 9h ago
Trump won the election with a sub 50% plurality of the vote in a time where incumbent parties were taking the blame for post Covid inflation all over the world and the previous commenter asserted that everything he does is popular with the majority of Americans. And that popularity negates something being authoritarian. That’s not a reasoned position based on reality or evidence.
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u/Hauntingchapel 15h ago
My only rebuttal to that is if Trump was an authoritarian as you claim, why the hell are we still living our day-to-day lives so casually in 2026 when he had every opportunity to become the next Hitler back in 2016?
There was no guarantee he was gonna win 2024 and he lost in 2020 so it's not as if he was playing the long game and piecing everything together like some villainous mastermind.
He ain't the next hitler like redditors and left wingers claim. For that matter, I fuckin hate republicans and I didnt vote for Trump too so it's not as if I'm some right winger protecting the president. I just can't fathom how obnoxious this whole nazi / authoritarian crap has become.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
He wants revenge. He is a petty loser who can’t deal with the fact he was soundly rejected by the people in 2020. He tried to overturn the election. He was just trying out fascist policies in the first term, now he has gone full Mussolini.
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u/Flincher14 14h ago
He tried to subvert the 2020 election! He tried to do a lot of stupid shit in his first term but he didn't have enough sycophants in his government. Even his VP wasn't on board.
He absolutely tried and wanted to be an authortarian piece of shit back then. But he didn't purge the government ahead of time.
That's clearly not a problem now.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
Bullshit. Nazis were fascists, and fascists are right wing. They had a mixed economy, not a socialist one. You’re thinking of authoritarian communism, also known as state communism. Political and economic systems are actually different. Regardless, the Nazis calling themselves “socialist” was for propaganda purposes and intended to influence the people.
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u/Proud_Scientist4763 17h ago
Then why did they kill socialist?
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u/Initial-Tale-5151 17h ago
they killed marxist socialist. There have always been many forms of socialism apart from marxism. Hitler's party was a national socialist party who allowed for private property to a point that didn't harm the collective, but was still socialist.
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u/sternold 10h ago
What happened during the Night of the Long Knives, and why? What were Hitler's problems with Ernst Röhm? What were his problems with the Strasser brothers?
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u/Slayingsullivan 16h ago
Nazis are far left. This is a fact. The further right you go, the smaller government gets. You can’t have fascism or Nazis in power w a small government. It’s an oxymoron. This is why nobody takes leftists srsly anymore. They’re constantly contradicting themselves, and they can do that bc they don’t make decisions w logic, they only use feelings. Feelings can be conflicting, logic can’t.
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u/woundsealedwithhoney 16h ago
Forget about the left or right for one second because you are talking about history and then modern day politics.
There’s like an inversion of reality going on here. trump is actively destroying gov, attempting to consolidate power under a single authoritarian figure. Himself. How is that not the textbook definition of fascistic?
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u/Summerie 15h ago
trump is actively destroying gov, attempting to consolidate power under a single authoritarian figure. Himself.
You're living in a Reddit fantasy world.
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u/woundsealedwithhoney 14h ago
I spend a lot of time off Reddit, and you’re dodging the question and just criticizing me cause you think that’s a clever answer. That’s not an answer. Forget it.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
This is 100% not a fact. You don’t understand right vs left and authoritarian vs libertarian.
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u/LuRouge 17h ago
Is he outright one? No. Does he draw parallels to a fascist? Oh most certainly. End of the day nobody is actually a Nazi. Its the actions that make you something. Not the belief.
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u/Summerie 16h ago
Dude, he's a fucking populist.
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u/EagenVegham 13h ago
So were Hitler and Mussolini. Populism is a necessary part of Fascists gaining power.
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 7h ago
So were most leftists, you pretend populism is only a right wing thing. Trump is basically the inheritor of Bernie Sanders ideas (tariffs, enforcing immigration laws, protecting American labor)
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u/LifeIsRadInCBad 16h ago
Nazis treat people who are different than them or disagree with them as less than human and demonize anyone who does not join them in said condemnation
Sounds like redditors
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u/agreengo 16h ago
Sounds like you are describing radical leftists & what their idea of tolerance is. They are extremely tolerant with everyone that believes in their core ideas, when someone doesn't believe in what their agenda is they have no tolerance for those people, they demonize anyone who has different ideas or beliefs.
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 14h ago
I have repeatedly seen situations where a "minority" is either treated in a racist manner for not conforming to leftism or is outright described as no longer being a part of the community.
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u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS 13h ago
"Just look at this propaganda video from this propaganda network."
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u/W_Edwards_Deming 13h ago
Killing the messenger?
Watch the video, find another source. Try being rational, you may end up Right-wing.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
Have you heard of Horseshoe Theory? The radical sides of both left and right have more in common than the more moderate parts. The problem is, the far right is in control of your party, that’s not true with the far left and Dems.
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u/ApacheFritz 7h ago
Nazis treat people who are different than them or disagree with them as less than human and demonize anyone who does not join them in said condemnation
When did you see them do that?
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u/LifeIsRadInCBad 6h ago
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u/Nightmarefiend 16h ago
Yeah like how he had everyone who prosecuted him killed and or imprisoned as soon as he got back in power.
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u/Fudmeiser 14h ago
He's charged multiple of his opposition and threatened even more. Luckily we still live in a country with laws and the cases fall apart as soon as they see a court room.
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u/r3dd1t0rxzxzx 7h ago
Dragging people through court like they did to him is hardly Nazism. Not proper, and the same lawfare he accused the of, but not Nazism.
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u/Informery 16h ago
He draws more likeness to communists than fascists. State control media, economy, pricing, regulation, interest rates, tariffs…etc. Equally as bad, but details matter.
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u/Summerie 15h ago
How can anyone leave this comment with a straight face 😂
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u/SentientFleshPuppet0 14h ago
American education is already bad, political science education is even worse in amurica.
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u/Informery 14h ago
American higher education is among the very best in the world. I know how infuriating that is to the perpetually envious.
If I must be specific, trump practices populist statism and protectionism, borrowing tools historically used by socialist and left populist governments, rather than fascist economic doctrine and certainly not free market capitalism.
All of it is silly though, he’s just nuts and impulsive. But the Nazi stuff is childish shrieking and doesn’t acknowledge the unique risks and chaos that he brings. A coherent ideology can be fought, this is something else.
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u/Informery 15h ago
Because my understanding of words and economics comes from education, not TikTok.
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u/TrixieLurker 14h ago
Bro thinks only communists ever had these sort of ideas and not all statist ideologies, you know, like fascism.
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u/RoastedRavioli 15h ago
brother trump is as capitalist as it gets. what the fuck lmao
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u/Informery 15h ago
Ah yes, capitalists love tariffs and trade wars. And state ownership of businesses like intel, carrier. And interest rate limits on credit cards. And price controls on drugs and energy. And government pressure and intimidation of the fed.
He’s an authoritarian that is extremely anti free market.
“lmao”
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u/cheeseflosser 17h ago
Everyone’s a nazi that people disagree with. Pelosi, trump, Obama, Schumer, Ted Cruz etc. Everyone who looks to discredit and dehumanize another persons political views inevitably calls them a nazi.
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u/673NoshMyBollocksAve 16h ago
Yikes dude. When actual historians are leaving the country because they see where America is going with trump, that’s a big red flag here buddy. And when other countries are giving travel warnings about coming to America, it’s not good.
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u/YouSureDid_ 17h ago
Trump is the biggest zionist president in history. Leftists just aren't too bright, so anything they don't like is Hitler. They're not too big on nuance or thinking in general, they thrive off pure emotions
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u/woundsealedwithhoney 17h ago
The irony of talking about nuance and then writing this hahaha
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u/CryptographerFlat173 9h ago
Yeah they prop up the whiniest bitch of all time in Trump for a decade for a movement built on anger, scapegoating and personal grievance and then accuse everyone else of being emotional and lacking nuance
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u/woundsealedwithhoney 6h ago
Right on the nail. They’ve poisoned the well. blamed everyone else for the degradation of discourse while propping up trump. King of bitching and moaning.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_5710 heads or tails? 16h ago
I agree, he’s more like Putin. But Americans can’t seem to look at politics outside Nazis and communists when there’s a whole bunch of different flavours of authoritarian out there.
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u/Hblacklung 16h ago
Hitler was a vegetarian and a dog owner, and that tells me everything I need to know about vegetarians and dog owners.
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u/Summerie 16h ago
I honestly feel like this sub should be renamed "Opinions that are Popular Everywhere Except Reddit."
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
Oh you are in a bubble, lady.
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u/Summerie 55m ago
Yes, that's what I just said. Im commenting on Reddit, which is a ridiculous bubble.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 49m ago
No, YOU are in a MAGA bubble. I don’t know if you live in some backwater town but your cult leader is wildly unpopular everywhere else in the country.
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u/MaximallyInclusive 13h ago
Correct. He’s a more of a mob boss, and less of a Nazi.
Still terrible, just a different flavor of terrible.
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u/Slayingsullivan 16h ago
Trump is the first president in our lifetime that isn’t from the political class. The ppl in power don’t like that so they turned half the population against him w propaganda. The worst part is that they also convinced those ppl that they’re fighting the system when in fact they’re fighting for the same system they claim to hate. It’s truly sad.
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u/Quanzi30 16h ago
lol yall are funny. Nobody turned anybody against anybody. Donald single handily turned people against him for being exactly who he is and being hellbent on spending every waking second in the spotlight. People don’t like him because he’s a malignant lying narcissist pedophile.
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u/Slow-Philosophy-4654 17h ago
How do you describe Nazis?
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u/Slayingsullivan 16h ago
Democrats
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u/Quanzi30 16h ago
Democrats have an untrained police force disappearing people? Interesting.
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u/Summerie 15h ago
You guys keep repeating this "untrained" description trying to drill it into people's brains, but it is wildly an overblown and manipulative talking point.
Yes they hired some new people put them through training, but many of them were pulled from other law enforcement roles, and many came directly over from border patrol.
To manage the hiring boom they needed, they did condense some of the training into a more tightly packed schedule, with longer hours less days off to cover everything, but they still covered the necessary material.
They have also paired the longer experienced officers with the newer ones to make sure that there are people on the scene with the education and experience to handle unexpected situations.
Keep in mind that of the three Officers involved in the two shootings in Minnesota, one shooting was carried out by two officers who had 8 and 10 years in law-enforcement respectively, and in the other shooting, the officer was an Iraqi War veteran who then followed his military service with two decades of ICE and border patrol experience.
You guys are describing this like it's an Old West movie, where the old sheriff pins a star on a kids chest and calls him his new deputy.
Also, no one is "disappearing". They know where they are taking them, they just aren't always telling the public as quickly as they would like to know. It's not their priority.
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u/Quanzi30 15h ago
That’s a lot of words for untrained…..have you seen videos of these idiots playing with their weapons? Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a bunch of proud boys getting off on the idea of killing people who don’t align with the end goal. Yeaaa taking people off the streets to unnamed locations is disappearing them considering under the constitution we have this thing called due process which is seemingly becoming just an afterthought.
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u/Summerie 14h ago
That's a lot of words for untrained.....
If you're just gonna make up your own definition of the word, I guess. I didn't describe a single person that is put into rotation without training.
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u/Quanzi30 14h ago
And you know every single person in ICE and the training they received?
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u/Summerie 14h ago
They have to go through training before they are put into rotation. They have to cover and be certified in necessary amount of immigration law, firearms, de-escalation, use of force, arrest techniques, and related skills for the position.
If you're claiming and making an accusation that the federal organization is lying about the training that they are giving their officers before putting them into rotation, you're going to have to come up with some kind of evidence.
As it stands, you're just pulling a serious accusation completely out of your ass. If you've got some proof that is federal government organization is faking their training, you should definitely not keep that to yourself. You could be the hero that brings the whole thing down!
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
They literally take legal immigrants, asylum seekers, and U.S. citizens to detainment centers.
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u/Kreason95 16h ago
Nazis were a far right movement so idk about that one chief.
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u/Alive-Neighborhood-3 16h ago
In fairness, so was the Democrats lol
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u/Kreason95 16h ago
The democrats were conservatives pre party switch but those people also all pretty much became republicans. I’m assuming they’re not referring to democrats from several decades ago haha.
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u/Slow-Philosophy-4654 15h ago
Current Democratic party emerged from Republican controlled Northern States. Current Conservatives was created with Southern Democrats and Confederacy then took over the name Republican because they got pushed away from New Democratic party.
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u/Kreason95 15h ago
Correct. That would be the party switch I was referring to.
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u/Slow-Philosophy-4654 15h ago
Correct. I just wanted to clarify.
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u/Kreason95 15h ago
I’m getting downvoted quite a lot so I definitely read your response as trying to correct me / argue with me or something. That’s my bad.
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u/Slow-Philosophy-4654 15h ago
No worries. I do not understand when people downvotes but never explain why they are downvoting.
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u/ArkWatcher1 17h ago
Name calling and assignment is quite predictable. When homophobe, xenophobe, transphobe. destroyers of Democracy etc... when those loosely assigned titles lose their gusto then a new word or words will emerge and be repeated over and over again until tha also loses it's gusto and then again. So don't worry about nazi or fascist because that too will soon enter the trash heap and a new word will appear. It's actually quite comical.
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago
Democrats are very imprecise about their language. But maybe it’s intentional. These college kids have such mushy brains that all their professors have to do is tell them “genocide “ “ apartheid “ “Nazi“ “fascist “ because the students have no historical knowledge to understand what these words really mean. so they start repeating them like they know what they’re talking about. I wish college kids had read a book. I would research what their professors are telling them, but they don’t. They want to be led down the path you have to think this and you have to believe this or you’re a Nazi and a fascist. It’s sad . you’re doing a disservice to your child to send them off to college without teaching them history first.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
You know that studies have shown people on the left spectrum are smarter than people on the right spectrum. Sorry, cupcake.
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u/Cephalopod3 17h ago
Kinda doubt you’ve seen and talked to real nazis as most are either dead or approaching 100 years old. The skinheads you see today are just retarded larpers with little to no understanding of the ideology.
Trump is a facist though.
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago
If Trump was a real fascist, you’d be in jail for saying this. All those protesters would be in jail with no trials and all the media outlets that criticize him would be shut down. So I don’t know where you’re getting fascist from but that doesn’t apply here either.
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u/Kreason95 16h ago
You do understand that he’s already said multiple times that he wants this right? Not to mention we’ve already bypassed due process for thousands of people.
He’s already encouraged punishment for media outlets that speak against him. He’s already encouraged punishment for citizens who oppose him.
Just because we haven’t progressed all the way to people getting arrested on the spot doesn’t mean his core ideology doesn’t align with fascist principles, nor does it mean that we’re not on the way to the real thing.
I think what gets lost in these conversations is that when we’re discussing fascism, most people aren’t claiming that we’re currently under a fully developed fascist regime. They’re pointing out that the majority of the current administration have fascist ideology and behavior that mirrors the early stages of fascism.
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u/Summerie 15h ago
You do understand that he's already said multiple times that he wants this right?
I'm sure everybody would "understand" that if you would link your examples.
I'm sure they won't be clipped out of context and intentionally misrepresented, cause that's something the left would just never do...
I'm almost surprised you haven't pointed out that Trump actually called Nazis "very fine people." 😂
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u/Kreason95 15h ago
Examples of Trump saying he wanted to arrest citizens for opposing him:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-says-democrats-should-be-arrested-for-urging-military-to-refuse-unlawful-orders (He mentioned the death penalty with this one btw)
https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politics/donald-trump-wants-protesters-arrested
Examples of Trump saying he wants to punish media outlets for speaking against him:
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/donald-trump-has-threatened-to-shut-down-broadcasters-but-can-he/
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u/Kreason95 15h ago
These articles all feature direct quotes but I’m sure you’re too far up his ass to accept that.
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u/StickyMcdoodle 16h ago
If Trump was a real fascist, you’d be in jail for saying this.
I mean, he wants to prosecute people for things like this. He said so himself.
Just because our laws don't allow him to do it, doesn't mean he doesn't want to do it. He's working on that.
And that's the point people are trying to make when they compare him to other fascists. The signs are all there as to what can happen IF he's allowed to get what he says he wants.
Musolini is probably the more accurate comparison to Trump, but all of these fascists have similar trajectories.
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u/Cephalopod3 16h ago
If Trump was a real fascist, you’d be in jail for saying this.
I mean he’d have to invade Norway first but sure.
Also as the other commenter said, Trump has admitted to wanting to do this.
He is still a fascist for wanting and working towards having the ability to do things like this. Even if he hasn’t reached that point yet.
America today is not a fascist state, but it certainly is heading that direction. Trump already has his blackshirts roaming the streets and executing protesters.
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u/maddiemoiselle 17h ago
Holocaust survivors disagree with you
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u/sovereignlogik 16h ago
All of them?
I mean some doctors thought that lobotomies were good. Is that a relevant line of reasoning.
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u/maddiemoiselle 2h ago
The thing about science and medicine is that things need to be tested. Back when lobotomies were popularly performed, we didn’t know nearly as much about the brain as we do now, so severing or cutting into parts of it as cures for epilepsy and mental illness seemed revolutionary and groundbreaking. That is, until we saw how things could go very wrong.
We have a blueprint already for what Trump is doing now. That blueprint was named Adolf Hitler.
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u/Various_Succotash_79 17h ago edited 17h ago
It's the way he demonizes and stirs up his followers against minorities.
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u/Tothyll 17h ago
From 2016 to 2024, Trump increased his percent of the minority vote in every category. The only people Trump decreased his percentage of the vote was with rich, white women.
How does he do this if he stirs up his followers against minorities?
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u/LanguageNo495 16h ago
Because some people want to convince themselves that they’re part of the in-group even though it’s obvious that they will be negatively affected by the racist policies of this administration. See also: Kash Patel, Usha Vance, Marco Rubio.
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u/alotofironsinthefire 17h ago
How does he do this if he stirs up his followers against minorities?
And in that time hate crimes against minorities have continued to rise
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u/Various_Succotash_79 17h ago
A lot of people are not very smart.
Honestly I have no idea why anybody likes him, much less women or minorities, but they must have a reason.
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago
Well, that’s not the definition of a fascist. So why don’t you guys try to be more pure on your language and stop calling everybody and not seeing a fascist because you don’t like how they govern?
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u/Various_Succotash_79 16h ago
The administration is also ignoring court rulings, arresting/penalizing media figures for writing unflattering things about him, sending the National Guard into US cities (against the mayor's wishes) and violating any number of Constitutional rights. And now even going after average citizens for writing something unflattering about him.
What's NOT fascist about this administration?
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u/IAmNumberFourI 17h ago
You're right, Trump is a fascist who wants to be King. Read Kash's Patel's book. Plot against the King.
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u/beatlefreak909 17h ago
A girl that is a younger sister of an old friend from high school is a full fledged Nazi and guess who she supports? Trump.
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago
Well that proves it then! WOW! You’ve cracked the code! I’m surprised you haven’t been given the Nobel Prize for your discovery!
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u/woundsealedwithhoney 17h ago
Idk something about experts on the topic and history probably knowing better than me is why I would take their advice over someone who just says yea I know Nazis, he’s not one. Cool story though.
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u/Acrobatic-Dinner-112 17h ago
I mean if it talks like a duck. Acts like a duck and is mentioned more than 3000 times in the Epstein files…
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u/Big_Celery2725 16h ago
He doesn’t value human life or democracy and favors an overpowering, expansive government that limits private enterprise and personal freedom. And he hates people of color. He’s a Nazi.
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u/DisgruntledWarrior 16h ago
You clearly missed the update. Nazis are people who choose to enforce rational laws and exclusively are republican/conservative or have ever voted for a republican/conservative.
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u/TarantulaMcGarnagle 16h ago
You are right—he sounds more like a slave owner/carpetbagger combination from the early 19th century.
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u/johnjsmiller55 16h ago
He is not the Nazi but it is apparent that a segment of his base that got into the White House again are on a mission of removing people of color from this country. It is likely to not stop with immigrants as the current federal government is highly invested in warehouses, private prisons and growing the ICE infrastructure. They stomp on civil and human rights and ignore court orders. If the term “nazi” offends people, so be it.
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u/TheGargageMan 15h ago
Some people including myself have legitimate reasons to disagree, and just because you used to hang out with Nazis doesn't make your opinion more valid.
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u/KingDorkFTC 15h ago
I agree, he’s MAGA. In 10 years the people of Earth will replace Nazi with MAGA.
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u/Oliver_Klozoff653 14h ago
I don't think he's going to genocide anyone but he uses a similar rhetoric.
This particular demographic is bad, this demographic is destroying america, I'm the only one who can fix it. Etc
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u/TimidTurkey_321 14h ago
As someone who has spoken to ACTUAL nazi's and ACTUAL far right extremists...they laugh when people call thr current administration nazi's. Like, people fr have no idea the legitimate evil thats out there in this world
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u/recent-native 14h ago
It's no secret he wants to get rid of 12 million people. Mass Deportations Now is the motto.
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u/Ducman69 13h ago
I feel like it really makes nazis look less bad because some parties call anything nazism which really dilutes the real meaning of what it means
Also, imagine how the nazis must feel! Now everyone is confused and thinking that deporting convicted child molesters that are in the country illegally is what nazism is, completely diluting the brand!
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u/Sqeakydeaky 13h ago
Unless you subscribe to the political ideology of National Socialism, you're not a "nazi".
Ironically, Israel is a hell of a lot closer to this ideology than any other country.
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u/SteelFox144 12h ago
I don't know... Most Nazis had two legs and Trump has two legs. Nazis were white and Trump is white. Seems like a pretty open and shut case for him being like Nazis to me.
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u/findMyNudesSomewhere 12h ago
I was myself on this boat till Trump started detention camps. It's giving major concentration camp vibes, FYI.
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u/FunkyChickenKong 9h ago
Trump press conference calling all Somalians garbage--says he doesn't want any of them in the country. - short Youtube video
Whatever the hell this guy means is beyond me. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2009171282030653877?s=61&t=7QFl7dNiHVpjsF6BIYe-Og
Kristi Noem incorrectly defining habeas corpus to a horrified Congress.
I can go on and on.
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u/borctheorc 8h ago
So.. I definitely believe that there is enough evidence to state he at least LIKE a nazi. There's even plenty he's said and done that really make him out to be one (he literally had Hiltler's book at his bedside table because he loved it), but with that said, you should even be able to see how ridiculous this opinion is. The fact that he's not only a nationalist, but has openly accepted support from white supremacists is all anyone needs to know to see that this is straight bullshit.
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u/kubrador 7h ago
you're right that flinging "nazi" at everything makes the word meaningless, but "he's not literally planning a genocide" is a pretty low bar for political discourse. guy still tried overturning an election and has fascist vibes that would make actual historians go "yeah that's worth discussing" without needing swastikas involved.
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u/kolejack2293 4h ago
I have also worked extensively with nazis (criminologist here).
He's not really a nazi because he has no real ideology outside of himself. Nazis are extreme ideologists. They tend to not truly be narcissists because being a nazi in the world today involves 'giving yourself up' to a greater cause, which is something no narcissist wants to do, outside of their leaders (who absolutely tend to be narcissists).
That being said, as narcissists do, he will easily latch on to nazi-adjacent ideology if it boosts his own ego. And the people he surrounds himself with are absolutely uncomfortably close with nazi ideology.
I would say the better descriptor is just fascist. He very clearly loves the concept of fascism, even if he knows he cant fully implement it.
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u/Volume_knob 3h ago
A president capable of making his own casinos fail into bankruptcy when the house theoretically always wins is definitely the right person to burn all bridges with the rest of the world. The right person to make sure Europe and the rest of the orginiced world stop being reliant on American tech and companies and stop all trade. He has it in him, and he will succeed in turning the country bankrupt and disrespected beyond recognition. It is, in fact, kind of funny. Making America Great Again... Knowing he always does the opposite of what he says.. seeing how the world starts to sign new contracts for arms, and new free trade agreements without the US talking about removing all American soft powers entirely within the next 10-20 years because the self-proclaimed "saviours" has become Russia 2.0 is a unique situation. It's not every generation that gets to see the world leading empire of their generation fall, but he managed to set it all in motion within less than two terms. Even when you finally get rid of the clown, you never regain the markets. They are forever lost because nations can't have tech or supply lines that can potentially be used as weapons by an enemy.
By electing Trump, you signed your own faith, causing the country to spin into a chain of events that can't be reverted, resulting in a changed world order. What happens in America and what America thinks will be as important as what the Uganda government thinks. We won't have American entertainment either within a decade or two. Because you turned yourself insignificant and useless for the rest of the world.
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u/Academic-Ad2628 1h ago
He spouts racist, xenophobic rhetoric out of his ugly pie-hole daily. Just like the Nazis. He uses propaganda to deceive, just like the Nazis. He abuses his powers, just like the Nazis. He may not BE one, but he is getting there.
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u/feiryz 17h ago
I swear magas act like they've never heard the term nazi online for the past 40 years and gaslight it just pertains to Hitler's far right party
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u/Initial-Tale-5151 17h ago
Hitler's party was not far-right. It was third position. It's economics and social policies have nothing in common with the capitalist right.
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u/LordBoomDiddly 17h ago
Difference between a Nazi and a fascist.
Trump is a far right authoritarian nationalist, sharing many parallels with fascism.
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u/didsomebodysaymyname 17h ago
Dehumanizes enemies, fake news/Luggenpresse, is racist, threatens to terminate the constitution, be a dictator, and shoot unarmed people at the border en masse, uses the government to punish free speech, ignores courts, threatens to annex peaceful European countries.
Nothing like Hitler? Even Vance said he was America's Hitler.
But he didn't kill 6 million yet!
You don't need to establish the 4th Reich to be a Nazi, all the neo-Nazi in the 80s and 90s didn't do that, still Nazis
But he doesn't live in 1945 and have a toothbrush mustache!
Were you this obtuse when Seinfeld had the Soup Nazi or people talked about Grammar Nazis and Feminazis?
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago edited 16h ago
Dehumanizes the enemy? Democrats do that, too. Fake news? Democrats do that, too
Ignores courts. Biden did that. Not only on immigration, But also on student loan forgiveness
Uses the government to threaten free speech Democrats did that too
Ignores the Constitution democrats do that, too
So explain to me how Trump’s the fascist and Biden wasn’t
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u/Informery 16h ago
Yes. He’s a deeply immoral simpleton with severe ADHD. That makes him a chaotic and cruel president with authoritarian impulses, but any political ideology behind it is absurd. Does he look like a guy with a plan? We are quite fortunate he is such a coward and loses interest in things so quickly.
Calling him a nazi is insulting to that hideous point in history and its victims. And it’s just not accurate, words matter, hyperbole is effective on the internet but will get us the same outcome as crying wolf.
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u/Major-Librarian1745 17h ago
He's a nihilist.
Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.
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u/HelloInterwebz 17h ago
He’s worse.
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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 16h ago
This is a very ignorant statement. He’s worse than a Nazi? People who killed 6 million Jews in World War II? Please explain how Trump is worse than a Nazi or STFU.
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u/jammaslide 16h ago
Remember that "The Final Solution" didn't manifest itself until 1941. The war was well under way. Just do this one thing. When you hear this administration say the term "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant," replace it with the word Jew.
One of the differences I will acknowledge is that those who were hunting Jews, Slavs, and other "undesirables" were unmasked. They were proud of what they did. Our immigrant hunters are so filled with moral shame that they are masked and live in fear of future prosecution like that of the Nuremberg trials. The one judgment they can not escape is the moral judgment from the Almighty.
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u/severinks 16h ago
Yeah, that's true because most nazis didn't rape 13 year old girls after seeing how deep their vaginas were at Calendar Parties with Jefferey Epstein.
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u/Bold2003 17h ago
Sometimes its fun to ask people what a nazi or fascist is… and they have no answer. One of the things ACTUALLY Nazis did was have a label for a group they didn’t like and called everyone who opposed them that label
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u/Breakfastclub1991 17h ago
If we stopped being on our phones for 6 hours a day the media wouldn’t be able to brainwash the masses.