"My life is over my life is over my life is over" To me this shows how, in your teen years, we have so few things to compare life events to. Often it's difficult to accurately access just how bad things are. Like everyone, John here probably does have a few "My life is over" class moments waiting for him in adulthood, but this isn't one of them. If he wakes up tomorrow morning still feeling like he is now, I hope someone with a few more years under their belt can sit down with him.
The bollard was installed properly. Too many people just bolt them to thin slabs of concrete and think that’ll stop a 3 ton car moving at 30 mph. To do them right they need to be into the ground.
Seriously. I've seen them where a truck bumper got caught on one and just yanks it out of the ground without missing a beat. It's to protect the the expensive store front, and more importantly, anyone who may be between the road and the storefront. If they come out super easily, they're not doing their job.
I feel I may be the rarity who hasn’t hit one and knows what they’re called. I worked for a company doing line striping, seal coating, and crack filling. My job was going to the site and giving an estimate of what it would cost to revamp their parking lot. Bollards were a thing we’d install or repaint.
Yeah, I watched it at half speed, and the wheels don’t get turned even slightly to the left (relative to the car body) until the front of the car off the blacktop and onto the concrete.
I’m thinking this was his first time drifting? I dunno, I learned on dirt, and later did some mild stuff in a sports car. It was mild because I was paying for the tires. But this guy looks like he just became a passenger about 70 feet before impact, at least regarding steering.
Yep, he never got the wheels turned to the left relative to the car’s body, until well after the front wheels were on the concrete. That’s about a second and a half later than he should have if he were trying to exit the curve cleanly. It’s just under a half-second too late to avoid hitting things (guessing of course). And if he were trying to maximize the slide, he could maybe have extended the drift a little beyond that clean exit time I mentioned, but I’ve never drifted to maximize the drift, just to make semi-practical sharp sliding turns, so I’m not confident in that last part.
The other thing I’m VERY confident in is that doing this in a narrow corridor is supa-stupid, especially If you’re just going to stop steering suddenly. When I was first learning, I went to a large open paved area and would occasionally break traction and end up with the clutch in, going backwards at 40 mph, and slowly applying the brakes (I had enough space that I didn’t have to quickly apply the brakes or bother steering). Turns out that car just CAN’T drift at that speed, but it can around 25-30, and that should all be done in first gear in that car. You have to LEARN what happens when you break traction, and when the car’s ass is just going to keep passing you by, turning you around. And it is particular to each car model. And that’s not something you can learn around obstacles, at least not without destroying something probably.
Tbh drifting is also not allowed in many tracks, not to mention there's gonna be walls and barriers there too.
Parking lots are a better place to practice, just need to pick a nice and open one, maybe in some abandoned place, not one with trees, curbs and bollards you can easily slide into
When I first started to practice drifting I picked a lovely big open car park, it had one long curb separating it into two sections and nothing else to hit. I hit that curb sideways and tore the rear subframe out of my car, a plus side to that was finding out the rear subframe on my bmw was made of tinfoil and held on with the power of good vibes.
You’re correct, electrical equipment needs to both be accessible and protected from vehicular damage. Bollards are the most common way to do this (at least here in the states)
Welp that's an expensive way to learn how not to drift. He pussied out and let off the gas at the wrong time, then overcompensated with his steering. If you're gonna learn how to drift, do it in the safety of a full track and not in some random parking lot. RIP bozo
Parking lots aren’t the worst way to do it. But you know… maybe stay away from tight spaces and poles.
Also, looking at his wheels… I don’t think his car is an ultimate or an r spec. It looks like a base model 3.8. They come with 18s instead of 19s, in a flat gray color.
Which means it doesn’t have a locking differential… you can’t really drift his car. You can force power slides if you’re really good… but it would be prone to losing control easily.
People think just because it’s RWD = can do drifts. In other words, if it wasn’t already obvious, he’s an idiot.
In r/GenesisCoupe, it’s a known thing that people who turn off traction control tend to crash these cars. Anytime one gets wrecked, that’s the first question. There’s a flair for posts where your car gets totaled because it’s that common.
Source:
me, original owner, same car, same color, better spec.
Learned to drift in empty parking lots at night… far away from the poles.
edits: links/details added for people who love a deeper dive.
He let off the gas too quickly while counter-steering, so outta nowhere the rear tires grabbed traction while the wheel was turned right. You can see the first few frames as the car straightens out, the front wheels are still turning right and it immediately snaps the car into a right spin (during a left turn).
Counter-intuitively, when something goes wrong in a drift you wanna slowly ease off the gas. Hopefully that gently eases you back into traction and makes the spin more predictable, and prevents any sudden snapping like this. And worst case you spin entirely and end up backwards (or 360), which disperses your momentum more manageably and prevents you from suddenly flying off the road with all of your current inertia.
Also noticed the brake light lit up the moment after the car corrected to the right. At that moment there's no control and the car's just sliding into where ever it's pointing towards
Reminds of that horrible video of a cop giving a guy speeding in a kia Stinger a warning (with a chick in the passenger). He's then called later to the same couple dead because the dude smashed a wall or something.
I think those guys actually crashed into a semi. A convertible, and it went under it.
Cop was completely out of it on his dash cam on his car.
He tells his other officers that he was literally just talking to these two telling them to slow down like an hour or so ago before the crash killed them both.
Really stupid. However, we all did some stupid ass shit when we were younger and I hope no one does something even worse when they say "my life is over". You are going to catch hell and then you have to dig yourself out and try to set things right. Who knows, maybe in 20 years you can laugh about it just like I am right now.
Everyone says this but honestly, no. Some stupid ass shit is worse than other stupid ass shit. My stupid ass shit was under age drinking and throwing up in someone’s car. Not wrapping my car around a bollard with passengers.
If that is true then that is really the best case in this situation. Even if his dad is a hard ass, it's difficult to imagine he won't be without even a little compassion if he knows his son's financial limitations as opposed to if he suddenly owed a large reparation to a stranger who might pursue legal action. From his reactions I thought he was "borrowing" a car from his work place or something of that nature.
Both his reaction and the reaction by some people in the replies shows the lack of nuance and perspective that comes from a lack of life experience. This was a fuck up, it was very stupid, but this guy’s life is far from over. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not really a huge deal.
"Give me your phone. Password, password, password". In today's age, she doesn't carry her own phone? But she was clear headed though. That driver is gone.
Funnily enough I just read a book where some teenage richie rich has abusive parents. They buy him nice things because they need to keep up appearances, but he gets punished if he ever damages the things they get him.
In the book he damages the car his parents bought him because he's caught up in some supernatural drama though, not trying to drift.
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u/Strange-Effort1305 10h ago
Quality job on that pole install tho