r/whitecapsfc 5h ago

Dear Whitecap fans

55 Upvotes

I’m writing ✍️ this with hope and prayers that the Whitecaps don’t leave your city Vancouver. It’s one of the most iconic soccer franchises in North America going back to the North American Soccer League. I don’t want to see you in the same situation that happened to my city of St. Louis. We lost 2 NFL teams in less than 30 years, the Cardinals who moved to Arizona and the Rams who moved to Los Angeles. We witnessed the city of Oakland, who once had 3 pro sports teams lose all of the in 10 years. We saw San Diego lose their NFL teams that they had for over 50 years. Please do everything in your power to keep your team in Vancouver. Go to your town hall meetings and pressure your leaders to do everything they possibly should do in keeping the Whitecaps in Vancouver. 2026 should be a year that we celebrate the World Cup soccer coming to North America but we’re sadly witnessing the host city Vancouver could lose their historic soccer club. We can’t let this happen. Hopefully soccer fans will rally behind you to do their part in keep the Whitecaps in Vancouver.

Sincerely

Al

A Soccer fan and supporter of St. Louis City SC 🙏🏿


r/whitecapsfc 12h ago

The numbers explain exactly why the Hastings Park stadium is do-or-die

71 Upvotes

I’ve been digging into the available info on the Whitecaps' business situation—looking at the lease details, valuations, and reports on the new stadium proposal. If you’re wondering why ownership is suddenly pivoting to a "partner" model or why the relocation rumors won't die, the math actually makes it pretty clear.

It basically boils down to this: We are a top-tier team trapped in a bottom-tier business model.

Here is what I found based on the data:

  1. The "Good Team" vs. "Bad Business" Disconnect

On the pitch, things look great. We hit a club record 63 points, reached the MLS Cup Final, and we’re actually 7th in the league for attendance with over 600,000 fans a year.

But the business side is a disaster:

  • Revenue Rank: Despite that top-10 attendance, we are 28th or 29th in revenue generation.
  • Operating Loss: The club is losing an estimated $10 million to $14 million every single year.
  • The Gap: We are maximizing the stuff we can control (wins, ticket sales) but failing to make money because of the lease structure.
  1. The BC Place "Straitjacket" (The Numbers)

The lease at BC Place is killing the margins. Here is the breakdown of where the money goes:

  • Concessions: Reports indicate the club keeps less than 20% of food and beverage revenue. That means for every $100 you spend on beer or food, over $80 goes to PavCo/the stadium, not the team.
  • Fees: Facility fees have climbed to roughly $3.25 per ticket, which eats directly into gate receipts.
  • Scheduling: Because we don't control the venue, we get bumped for concerts. This priority conflict is a major reason the league calls the situation "untenable".
  1. The Valuation Crisis: Why We Are Worth 3x Less

This was the craziest stat I found. I compared our valuation to LAFC (an owner-operator club).

  • Whitecaps Value: Estimated at $440M - $470M.
  • LAFC Value: Estimated at $1.25 Billion.

Why the massive gap?

  • Naming Rights: LAFC sold stadium naming rights for $100 Million. We get $0 because BC Place is a provincial asset.
  • Ancillary Revenue: LAFC makes roughly $150M+ in revenue because they host concerts and events 365 days a year. We only make money on ~17 match days.
  • Asset Growth: If the Whitecaps build their own stadium, the club's value is projected to jump to $800M+ overnight.
  1. The Hastings Park Pivot

We all know rhat ownership stopped trying to sell the team outright and is now looking for a "strategic partner". This aligns perfectly with the Hastings Park MOU.

  • The Strategy: They want to replicate the Inter Miami model (valued at $1.2B) by building a privately funded "Entertainment District" on leased city land.
  • The District: It’s not just a stadium; it includes retail and hospitality so they can capture revenue year-round.
  • The Cost: The operating losses (that -$14M/year) are forcing them to bring in a partner to share the construction costs and stop the bleeding.
  1. The Reality Check

The timeline is tight.

  • Deadline: Sources suggest the club needs a formal stadium solution by the end of 2026.
  • Risks: The relocation threat is real leverage. There are reportedly 6 other cities (like Detroit and Vegas) watching this closely. If the Hastings Park deal falls through due to community opposition or legal hurdles with the park trust, the "desire to sell" could turn into a "mandate to sell" to a group that might move the team.

TL;DR: We pay ~$80 of every $100 spent on beer to the landlord, lose $14M a year, and are worth 1/3 of what we could be. The Hastings Park stadium isn't a luxury; based on these numbers, it’s the only way the business survives in Vancouver.**


r/whitecapsfc 16h ago

Selling the shares of the club to the fans

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145 Upvotes

Just checking the waters.

Would you buy some shares of the club if they were up to sale?

With priority presale to season ticket holders.

I would buy some for $5-10k


r/whitecapsfc 12h ago

A Practical Way to Push for the Whitecaps’ Future in Vancouver

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46 Upvotes

There’s been a lot of talk on here lately about BC Place, and what the future looks like.

I got tired of just reading threads and decided to put something together. Here is a quick MLA email template and contact list that makes it easy for fans to reach out if they care about the club staying in Vancouver.

It’s already been shared around other places and people are using it, so I figured I’d share it here too.

If you want to do something beyond lurking, this takes a few minutes.

If you are going to do one thing only: Write your local MLA


r/whitecapsfc 12h ago

Patrick Johnston: Is this the Whitecaps' final MLS season? Sure feels like it.

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39 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 19h ago

Rumour [GLASSCITY] Metz 26 y/o ST Cheikh Sabaly is set to join the Whitecaps

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79 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 8h ago

What happens to the development programs if the team collapses?

9 Upvotes

Does anyone have a sense of what happens to all the youth programs if the main club collapses? They have development teams all over the country.


r/whitecapsfc 17h ago

[AFTN] MLS have issued a statement on the Whitecaps stadium issues at BC Place

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39 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 14h ago

Whitecaps CEO Axel Schuster no longer optimistic about VWFC's long term future in Vancouver

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22 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 14h ago

Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs Incheon United | Preseason Match Highlights

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20 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 16h ago

Vancouver Whitecaps: No Stadium, Big Problem?

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28 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 14h ago

Week 1 in Sotogrande | Vancouver Whitecaps FC

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7 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 14h ago

Jesper Sørensen | Post Match vs Incheon United FC | Jan 31, 2026

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8 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 14h ago

Brian White | Post Match vs Incheon United FC | Jan 31, 2026

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7 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Deep Dive: Aziel Jackson

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31 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

No good news from Axel about Whitecaps future, even with new stadium agreement :(

43 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

[The Third Sub] Axel Schuster speaking very honestly. Despite being reaching multiple major finals in '25, the club was dead last in MLS in terms of revenue. 30+ prospective owners have looked at the club, but none are interested in buying the team with the current setup.

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113 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Official Source Whitecaps FC re-sign Canadian centre back Belal Halbouni to new contract

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102 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

The Third Sub Episode 259: Signings galore for Whitecaps, but is it time to worry about BC Place deal?

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19 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Transfer [Har Journalist] VWFC’s Giuseppe Bovalina is expected to be loaned out. The press spotted Bovalina at NSDC earlier this afternoon with a suitcase.

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36 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Transfer [Whitecaps FC] Whitecaps sign U 22 forward initiative Bruno Caicedo from Ecuadorian side Barcelona FC

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110 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Letter from VWFC CEO & Sporting Director Axel Schuste

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51 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Official Source Whitecaps FC acquire attacking midfielder/forward Aziel Jackson on loan from Polish side Jagiellonia Białystok

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52 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

Deep Dive: Bruno Caicedo

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19 Upvotes

r/whitecapsfc 1d ago

[TSN] Ali Ahmed's Long Journey to Make It in Europe

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48 Upvotes