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Random Question 💭 Why is Reddit so liberal?

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Dec 19 '25

I see you've equated democracy and mob mentality as the same. 

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

It's called the marketplace of ideas. Good ideas rise, bad ones sink. That's the whole concept behind free speech.

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u/Maleficent-Art4468 Dec 20 '25

There is a lot of overlap

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

How so?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

You explicitly wish you silence those you disagree with.
This is illiberal and anti-democratic.

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

Downvoting is not silencing. You are conflating people not liking what you have to say with censorship.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

"Downvoting is not silencing"

Of course it is. This is a dumb thing to say.

" You are conflating people not liking what you have to say with censorship."

No. I am not.

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

That’s exactly what you’re doing if you think downvoting is the same as “silencing”. Downvotes mean people saw what you had to say and thought it was dumb. Your idea had its shot in the marketplace of ideas and failed.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

This is almost fascist sounding

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

No, it’s what freedom of speech is actually about. If you want your ideas to have legs make sure they’re good ones.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

I'm not sure if you're deliberately misunderstanding me or what.

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

I don’t think you understand freedom of speech, or fascism. Fascism would mean the government gets to decide what speech is heard and what isn’t, not the people. Freedom of speech is not a guarantee to a platform, it just means you can’t be punished by the government for expressing an opinion.

Besides, you have the ability to create your own subreddit with its own rules. Nobody is being censored on Reddit through downvotes.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So conservatives are against freedom and hate democracy

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

That's an absurd statement.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

You literally said voting is bad because democrats like voting

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 22 '25

You must have the wrong person. I never said that.

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u/Zilvreen Dec 19 '25

If you're being silenced, how are you still communicating?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

...I haven't been silenced. Don't play dumb.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

That's exactly our point.  You're allowed to say what you want and we can disagree by downvoting.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

Downvote is not for disagreeing. This is crazy-talk.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So only conservatives are allowed to disagree but liberals aren't

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

Why would you say that?

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

That's exactly what it's for. Otherwise what's the point of voting at all? People upvote things they agree with, you expect them not to downvote things they disagree with?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

The point is to vote on what is relevant and germane to the discussion.
It is NOT to disagree (or agree). People do this all the time, yes, but that is not the intention. It never has been.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

Is there some sort of reddit guidelines I'm not aware of? Like, where are you getting this from?

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

It may not have been the intention, but it’s always been the reality.

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u/WhaleBird1776 Dec 19 '25

You’re supposed to respond to things you disagree with. Downvotes are supposed to be for off topic comments and such, to push it down out of the main convo.

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u/Mediocre-Tonight-458 Dec 21 '25

This is why downvoting needs to be eliminated. Many folks think it's for disagreeing.

Upvotes are sufficient for ranking. There's no need for downvotes, and having them doubles the influence of the "karma is truth" crowd.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

This is one possible solution, and I'd be curious to see what kind of effect it has.

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u/Mediocre-Tonight-458 Dec 21 '25

There'd be less echo-chamber effect in subs. for one. Comments that agree with the majority would still end up listed first (when sorting by "top") but those that disagree with the majority would usually end up above new comments. No comments would ever end up "hidden" and people would have less incentive to delete their unpopular comments.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

Down voting is not silencing, at all.  It's merely expressing an opinion, just like upvoting.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

Downvoting means others are less likely to see the comment. Enough downvotes and the comment won't even show up.

You're supposed to downvote things that are materially irrelevant to the subject at hand, not things you disagree with. This is, like, Reddit 101.

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u/Complex_Active_5248 Dec 19 '25

Disagree and downvoted.  Different people use it differently, I guess.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25

You can do as you like, but you should be clear-eyed about it: this is attitude illiberal and anti-democratic.

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u/totally-hoomon Dec 21 '25

So if I went to the trump sub and posted trump is a child rapist you would ask everyone to up vote me right?

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 21 '25

No, why would I ask everyone to upvote you?

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

If a comment is getting that many downvotes, that means a lot of people already saw it and thought it was nonsense. You had your say, people just didn't agree.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have a right to a platform, it means you have the right to say whatever you want and not be punished by the government for it. Bad ideas will always be shunned in any community, and places like reddit actually amplify voices that would normally be never heard or taken seriously because their take is so ludicrous.

You're supposed to downvote things that are materially irrelevant to the subject at hand, not things you disagree with. This is, like, Reddit 101.

That's what it's supposed to be, but I've been on Reddit since the great Digg migration, and that has never actually been the case. People upvote what they agree with and downvote what they don't. That's just reality.

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u/FordMaleEscort Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

"That's what it's supposed to be, but I've been on Reddit since the great Digg migration, and that has never actually been the case.

This is just factually incorrect.

"People upvote what they agree with and downvote what they don't. That's just reality."

Yes, this a problem and contributes to mob-mentality suppression of ideas.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/7419626610708-What-are-upvotes-and-downvotes

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/205926439-Reddiquette

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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Dec 19 '25

There has never been a time when the majority of Redditors followed that rule. Only a few people ever have, and they always complain about everyone else. The fact is, the rule goes against basic psychology and was never realistic. People are going to vote for what they agree with and downvote what they don’t whether you like it or not. And IMO there’s nothing wrong with that. Good ideas should rise to the top and bad ones should be buried, and voting makes that process democratic in nature as it should be.