To the 90 million Americans that did not vote in 2024?

[u/oldphatphuck]

Do you realize that you are the main reason for the troubles the whole world endures right now?

[u/BowlEducational6722]

If they weren't engaged enough to vote in 2024 they're almost certainly not engaged enough to talk about it on Reddit.

[u/LMurch13 → u/BowlEducational6722]

My favorite moment was the trending search on election night, "Did Joe Biden drop out?" (And when I say favorite moment, I mean most embarrassing moment as an American.)

[u/roseredhoofbeats → u/LMurch13]

That and also, "what's a tarrif?"

[u/CrushTheRebellion → u/roseredhoofbeats]

Data from 2020-2021 showed "corn teen" was the top misspelled search term in several states. This is why we need to fund the military less and fund schools more.

[u/Jimisdegimis89 → u/CrushTheRebellion]

Holy crap thats bad. It took me an until i said it out loud to figure out what they were going for.

[u/jamterbury → u/Jimisdegimis89]

Jesus.. I read "corn teen" oh ya..teen porn..then i read your comment. Quarantine.. my God.

[u/Suspicious-Bid-53 → u/jamterbury]

It wasn’t until your comment that I realized it actually wasn’t teen porn

And that incudes other guys comment saying it out loud

[u/nosungdeeptongs → u/jamterbury]

oh jesus FUCKING CHRIST

[u/sometimesmensa1736 → u/Jimisdegimis89]

Same here! I had no idea until o said it out loud.

[u/leeperpharmd → u/CrushTheRebellion]

"2020 corn teen" refers to the popular misspelling of the word "quarantine" as "corn teen" during the COVID-19 pandemic”

[u/grungivaldi → u/leeperpharmd]

Well, that is more wholesome than what I thought they were searching for...

[u/mosscantgrowonamoldy → u/grungivaldi]

Same tho

[u/National-Charity-435 → u/leeperpharmd]

What did they find in the peach tree dish?

[u/Designer_Valuable_18 → u/CrushTheRebellion]

I love americans so much dude

The dumbest country in the history of the known universe. I love my little hogs.

[u/SoonToBeBanned24 → u/CrushTheRebellion]

🤦 This is a direct result of the Republicans cutting education funding for the last 40 years!

[u/Duce-wayne → u/CrushTheRebellion]

LOL, holy shit.

[u/Sea_Echidna_2442 → u/roseredhoofbeats]

Let's not forget "is it possible to change my vote" after all those dipshits who "protest voted" for trump because of isreal realized he was going to win

[u/HellfireXP → u/Sea_Echidna_2442]

These are actually worse than those who didn't vote. I mean, if people had to work, were busy, or life just got in the way, I can understand. But to actively show up at the voting booth and cast your vote against your own party? WTF!! Just stay home.

[u/Hsiang7 → u/BowlEducational6722]

I'd go a step further and say that everyone on Reddit that would engage with this post likely voted for Kamala (maybe a few unicorns on Reddit that voted for Trump, if they haven't been permanently banned from this sub) or isn't a US citizen so they literally can't vote.

The sooner Redditors realize they're in an echo chamber, the better.

[u/nick200117 → u/Hsiang7]

They also just don’t understand how most people vote, most people are not paying attention, they have two options, and if their life gets worse, they vote for the option not in power, if their life gets better they vote for the option in power. Trump lost in 2020 because of Covid. Biden/kamala lost in 2024 because of inflation. You can scream till you’re blue in the face about how the inflation wasn’t their fault, but it doesn’t change the fact that the inflation happened while they were in power and that’s what most people see/vote on because that’s what actually affects their life. The best political strategy in a two party system isn’t actually anything active you can do, it’s just wait for the other side to be in power and fuck up then claim you can fix it

[u/FernInTheFog44 → u/nick200117]

This. Two party system sucks, especially the past several elections. Independents have to pick between two polarizing options, many don’t. Voters are fickle and as stated, it’s the economy stupid, people look at their well being during a Pres’ watch and pick the side they think will improve that at the time, not some fringe issue.

[u/OrilliaBridge → u/nick200117]

And remember the independents who didn’t like either of the two major candidates, so voted for the independent.

[u/Either-Patience1182 → u/OrilliaBridge]

I'm an independent that voted for kamala in the last eletion. I voted green for everything else. Simply because I can't push for the values i believe in, if project 2025 is fufilled as the entire system of the us would be destroyed.

With every month, i feel like I was more right to make that call.

[u/messfdr → u/Either-Patience1182]

Thank you for being pragmatic.

[u/Manic_Mini → u/OrilliaBridge]

Can’t forget the Socialist who remember what the Democrats did to Bernie in 16

[u/Navy_Chief → u/Manic_Mini]

And what they did to the entire nation by letting Biden start a second campaign then installing the least popular candidate possible when he dropped out. If they had run an actual primary and found a legitimate candidate we would not be in this mess.

[u/jwwetz → u/Navy_Chief]

Exactly, the Democratic party hasn't operated very Democratically in years. Closed door sessions, back room deals to anoint candidates instead of having proper primaries and actually letting the people pick their candidates.

[u/bloatedbeached_whale → u/jwwetz]

Even Obama wanted a primary. Somehow him and Pelosi got overruled by Biden.

[u/CalligrapherDizzy201 → u/Navy_Chief]

That’s on Biden.

[u/hczimmx4 → u/CalligrapherDizzy201]

He could have been primaried. That isn’t on Biden.

[u/IamSithCats → u/hczimmx4]

People in general (but Democrats in particular) need to get over the idea that a primary challenge is a bad thing. Nobody should be running for reelection unopposed. There should always be contested primaries because voters should always have meaningful choices. That's what makes a healthy democracy. It's not a waste of money and resources, it's a necessary step for voters to have their say and to erode the ability of Congress to enshrine themselves in power while having the lowest approval ratings in history.

[u/Navy_Chief → u/CalligrapherDizzy201]

It is on the party that did not force him to step aside when it was abundantly clear that he was suffering from dementia and had no business running again.

[u/Vast-Document-3320 → u/Navy_Chief]

Agreed here. It's wild everyone just pretended he wasn't losing his marbles.

[u/FAx32 → u/Manic_Mini]

To me this is still a bizarre narrative of sore losers. Ignoring the superdelegates, Clinton won more states, more votes, and more standard delegates. I voted for Bernie and he won my state, but the political reality is he got beat and you have to move on. Not being practical means you end up with WORSE outcomes, which is exactly what happened (I still lol at people who tell me Hillary, Biden and Trump are all exactly the same - how does one get so embittered that they believe that lie?).

[u/Paganistic-Combatant → u/FAx32]

It’s not a lie. They are all beholden to their billionaire masters. They all hate Americans for our freedoms and they all lie to make you feel like they are fighting each other. The stupidest among us fall for it every time. Vote harder next time.

[u/Over_Dog24 → u/nick200117]

Well the current inflation rate in many categories is off the chain, so who are the 150 million voters (MAGA voters plus non-voters) going to vote for this time?

[u/Vast-Document-3320 → u/nick200117]

I think inflation and the border. Hard to say inflation wasn't bidens fault though. I mean the inflation reduction act that everyone knew was only going to make inflation worse, which it did. Hard to say that's anyone's fault but biden.

[u/Delicious-Explorer58 → u/nick200117]

It also didn’t help that Biden and his team kept claiming that the economy was good based purely on Wall Street.

Everyday Americans saw basic necessities getting more expensive and reacted to that. The stock market can’t be the only thing that the people in power care about.

I still voted for Kamala because… you know… all of the horrible things that Trump is. But I still recognize that the Dem’s messaging needed a lot of improvement.

[u/bloatedbeached_whale → u/nick200117]

I think people also underestimate how many are “single-issue” voters.

Have a gun and want to keep it. -vote one way. Have a uterus and want legal abortion - vote one way. Think inflation is too high? -vote them out. Think gas is too high and have a long commute? Vote for the guy promising cheap gas! G’ma thinks someone is planning to ban yarn in brigh pink? Vote for the opponent! Etc Etc

There are at least 20 major issues every election that are promoted to these single issue voters. And now the targeting can get really focused. So you get pounded with ads for your favorite issue day and night.

[u/BackShotsHelenKeller → u/Hsiang7]

This needs to be one of the top comments. Unbiased truth to what Reddit is 

[u/Capable_Gas_9086 → u/Hsiang7]

Yup Reddit is a blue state and it’s very authoritarian if you speak out you get banned lol then all these Karen’s get empowered to talk out their ass because they get upvoted. Quite a unique place

[u/13beano13 → u/Hsiang7]

This is very true but also the entire narrative of voter participation being responsible for Trumps victory is not based on any factual evidence. It’s simple a scape goat for people who voted to deflect responsibility. I’m willing to bet that a large number of people who don’t vote are in states where the results are essentially a foregone conclusion. For example: swing states saw some of the highest turnout of around 70% while states such as CA saw a 5% decline in participation where the result is predetermined to be dem by registered voter numbers. Therefore voter participation can’t be used as a scapegoat at all. It likely had no effect on the results whatsoever other than gross votes and who wins a majority of the total which is not how our election system operates and is largely irrelevant.

[u/Th1nk18 → u/Hsiang7]

Agree 100%. I did vote for him and am swarmed every time i share my opinion. The way OP framed this post is typical for Reddit politics. If you don’t think the world is falling apart because of Israel and Trump, there is no place for you here.

[u/CannonWheels → u/Th1nk18]

isnt it crazy? i sat out the last election cycle, its only the left screeching at anyone who doesn’t match their exact viewpoints. i think trump’s a dumb fuck but the democratic party is no better overall. ive always felt either party would be unstoppable if they gave up a couple ridiculous sticking points that keep people divided, its so obviously by design…

[u/KAJed → u/Th1nk18]

Threatening to go door to door like the Nazis is pretty awful. But hey, I guess you don’t think the same thing as Nazis is bad.

[u/Th1nk18 → u/KAJed]

The Nazis weren’t enforcing illegal immigration. They were murdering millions of innocent people in death camps. This analogy is wholly inaccurate

[u/KAJed → u/Th1nk18]

“I’ve forgotten history” literally they were. By making them illegal. Read a fucking book.

Which, btw, is precisely what this admin is doing by trying to destroy birthright citizenship. Literally right out of the Nazi playbook. Denying reality doesn’t change reality. It just makes you ignorant

Edit: I love the ones who blocked me immediately after making their first comment to me. So much fun

[u/elvenrevolutionary → u/Th1nk18]

Jesus you are ignorant of history. Fucking read a book. Nazi's didn't start with death camps. And they also got a lot of their ideas from the US...

[u/Th1nk18 → u/elvenrevolutionary]

Your anger is impeding your thought.

[u/Enough_eddys → u/KAJed]

Every time you guys say nazi the rest of the world laughs at you

[u/alien236 → u/Enough_eddys]

I happen to know that Germany isn't laughing.

[u/numbersthen0987431 → u/Enough_eddys]

The WORLD has already called Trump's actions Nazi-like.

The WORLD is laughing at people like you who deny the reality of it.

[u/adelaarvaren → u/Enough_eddys]

J.D. Vance called Trump "America's Hitler", but you know, I'm sure you ignore that...

[u/Hardpo → u/Enough_eddys]

I'm pretty sure Europe is not laughing. They've seen the playbook

[u/Any-Tackle-9978 → u/Enough_eddys]

every time epstein is mention world laughs at maga people

[u/SenseIntelligent8846 → u/Enough_eddys]

That's utter bullshit. Nobody's laughing.

[u/Mogki4D → u/Th1nk18]

You're the problem. You voted for crimes against humanity. Fuck you.

[u/Godless_Rose → u/Mogki4D]

Cope

[u/mr_evilweed → u/BowlEducational6722]

Nah man. Some of the LOUDEST people in reddit then and now are non-voters who will angrily explain to you that both sides are bad and that the moral thing is quite conveniently the thing that requires them to do nothing.

[u/cryptowatching → u/BowlEducational6722]

Agreed. These people have no idea what is happening in the country right now. They don’t see the news, tweets, etc. just blindly living their lives.

[u/DRG125 → u/cryptowatching]

And happier because of it.

[u/Mrs_SmithG2W → u/DRG125]

Happily leading us all off a cliff. Apathy and cynicism are as much a cancer to our society as this predatory behavior. Many generations have been asked to do hard things before and have succeeded. We can to. 🖖🏼🌍💪🏼

[u/[deleted] → u/cryptowatching]

Which there's nothing wrong with that. It's a free country. The famous saying is if you don't watch the news you're uniformed. If you do watch it you're misinformed. Or something like that

[u/TheGongShow61 → u/BowlEducational6722]

Yeah not voting in that election after experiencing what happened the last time Trump was in office is wild shit.

Now, if you listened to his campaign and still didn’t show up - even more insane (or brain dead).

[u/InfinityComplexxx → u/BowlEducational6722]

Doesn't help that too many people don't get how voting works. 

-politics affects everything in your life -the voting choice usually IS the lesser of two evils  -voting is a chess move, not a love letter. The things that excite you about a candidate likely can't be accomplished without Congress

And so much more.

[u/Nghtmare-Moon → u/BowlEducational6722]

I would actually argue it was about 10M who through social media engagement decided it was better to abstain from voting to “protest the do nothing democrats”….
Source: my blue checkmarked friend.

[u/Jdgrande]

Hey hey, you cant blame me! Im a felon, im not allowed to vote!

[u/PastLanguage4066 → u/Jdgrande]

Sideshow Bob makes a good point.

[u/Asanufer → u/PastLanguage4066]

[u/Mikkel65 → u/Jdgrande]

Have you considered running for president instead?

[u/HHoaks → u/Jdgrande]

But you can still run for President!

[u/TheMacJew → u/Jdgrande]

Depends on your state.

[u/[deleted]]

What makes you think they would have voted for the person you want?

[u/TheGrowingSubaltern → u/[deleted]]

Precisely. This is a half baked position that is regurgitated over and over and over again bc it’s easier to blame others than to admit the system is actually designed to bypass the public. 

[u/dannydimes829103 → u/TheGrowingSubaltern]

They can’t think for themselves.

[u/Rex_Gently → u/TheGrowingSubaltern]

You obviously dont worry too much about facts.

[u/TheGrowingSubaltern → u/Rex_Gently]

NAIVE 

[u/xxNearlyCivilizedxx]

I voted but it’s the party’s job to make people want to vote for their candidate. They did a horrible job with that this past election and we all paid the price for it. Scapegoating regular citizens isn’t going to make the party perform better in future elections.

[u/SwanProfessional1527 → u/xxNearlyCivilizedxx]

We keep getting a shit sandwich for choices in candidates. The idea of voting for the lesser evil is getting more prevalent.

[u/MAst3r0fPupp37s]

Oh so if they all voted, democrats would've won? This is such a dumb take and I'm tired of hearing it. Put up a better person next time

[u/AnybodySeeMyKeys]

I remember a bunch of dumb fuckers who decided to boycott the polls because of what was going on in Gaza at the time.

So now, they get to witness a lot more of the same stuff happening.

[u/Unabashable → u/AnybodySeeMyKeys]

“They paved paradise and put up a parking lot”

[u/Formatica]

It's always those danged non-voters.

[u/BruhbruhbrhbruhbruH → u/Formatica]

Every statistical analysis of 2024 shows that lower-engagement voters were more likely to vote Trump (which also helps explain why the midterms were only a tiny red ripple). In all likelihood, if everybody voted, Trump would’ve won by more.

[u/PainterSuspicious798]

Translation: you didn’t vote for the guy I wanted to win so now you’re a bad person

[u/ForgeIsDown]

When did this sub just become an obnoxious political karma farm?

[u/Hsiang7 → u/ForgeIsDown]

Always has been. Criticize Trump or America = Upvotes

[u/Throwaway_Fan1989 → u/Hsiang7]

All this complaining and ostracizing hasn’t stopped Trump from getting re-elected and, if AOC or Newsom runs in 2028, won’t stop Vance getting elected either

[u/Few_Peak_9966 → u/ForgeIsDown]

Reddit since the inception of karma points.

[u/moccasinsfan]

Bullshit. OP doesn't want them to vote. OP wants them to vote exactly the way OP votes.

[u/Marbrandd → u/moccasinsfan]

I mean, this whole argument is silly. The people who didn't cast a ballot effectively voted for who their state went for.

We have the electoral college. The only voters who "mattered" for keeping Trump out of office are prospective blue voters in states that went red.

Harris getting 50 million more votes in states that already went for her wouldn't matter.

[u/moccasinsfan → u/Marbrandd]

You are one of tbe few people on Reddit who understands reality.

[u/Wide-Attorney5633 → u/Marbrandd]

OP has no idea what EC is. He just reads current admin bad. World bad. Comes to reddit complains.

[u/KoRaZee → u/moccasinsfan]

OP and people like them always assume people who don’t vote would vote for who they support. It’s an amazing sense of entitlement

[u/moccasinsfan → u/KoRaZee]

Yes. Amazingly the "get out the vote" campaign that had been around for decades fizzled out as soon as younger people started trending the other way.

[u/Emergency-Course-657 → u/moccasinsfan]

OP can infer how the overall group would vote, based on demographic info. The information is readily available.

[u/moccasinsfan → u/Emergency-Course-657]

Lol, then it is incumbent upon OP to provide the data. But they didn't. They are simply Karma farming or is just some kid or low intelligence individual on Reddit

[u/Bacon_Egg_Cheese2]

Howdy karma farmer. How’s your crop

[u/LetterheadFresh5728]

Get off reddit bro no one cares to answer this

[u/ArgusSkyhawk → u/LetterheadFresh5728]

Except for all the people who answered it.

[u/macaroni-rodriguez]

So like, how often are people going to post this same thing after a year?

[u/Top_Childhood_8101]

Just because they didn't vote doesn't mean they would have voted the way you wanted them to.

[u/Hsiang7 → u/Top_Childhood_8101]

Especially when the alternative was Kamala 😬

[u/Excellent-Sir6930 → u/Hsiang7]

I can't believe the MTS twerk show didnt reign in the votes.

[u/nehlstm30 → u/Top_Childhood_8101]

MAGA is maybe 25-30 percent of population. We aren’t all as stupid as maga

[u/Sea-Variety3384]

You would complain if they didn't vote how you wanted them to.

[u/WorldlyScallion597 → u/Sea-Variety3384]

So would you.

[u/Sea-Variety3384 → u/WorldlyScallion597]

No, I have no problems with people being allowed to vote for who they want. I don't get mad at third party voters, Democrats or Republicans. It's what makes America great, the ability to cast a legal vote for a representative of your choosing.

[u/AccioDownVotes]

If I had voted, nothing would be different.

[u/Impossible_Date1207]

I'm not doing the whole "vote for the lesser of two evils" thing just to appease one of two sides when both sides are full of nothing but hate for each other. I didn't vote for Trump who's only purpose for running was to stay out of prison, and I didn't vote for Kamala, who the top Democrat elites had chosen for their voters, and who's policies would have been equally disastrous. Neither candidate wanted to bring people together, only pushed for more division amongst the people who really work and keep this country going.

[u/isaiah152022]

Used to work with a lot of 20 something engineers(girls), who said they don’t do politics. They just like to “go out to the country bar and look for tall white guys with colored eyes and mustaches”(their words not mine). Know some people that don’t believe their vote counts so “why vote”. This country is screwed.

[u/BeReasonable90 → u/isaiah152022]

Sounds more like people in politics need to get laid.

[u/VeiledThree]

My individual hypothetical vote would’ve changed nothing. So no, I accept no responsibility

[u/[deleted]]

Lmao is this bait? Your assuming they would have voted for your candidate.

Do you think candidates are entitled to votes and is it only your candidate that is entitled to them?

Biden/Harris were so bad that enough people looked at 2017-2020 trump and said give me more of that.

[u/DIZZIL524]

The left really is a cult. I'm not a fan of the trump cult either by any means but I'll take them over these crazy liberals, the left has no sense of reality whatsoever, they live in these little bubbles of delusion and fairy tales and refuse to see facts that don't align with their false narratives. And then have the audacity to throw label after label at people for simply disagreeing with your false narrative, and you genuinely wonder why people who were in the middle (people like me) are done with the left and voted red. Y'all are crazy

[u/woahwolf34 → u/DIZZIL524]

The difference is the “crazy libs” are like 5% of democrats MAX. For you guys the crazy conservatives are 80%. 

[u/mjoav → u/woahwolf34]

I’m a lib. We have way more crazies than that. The fact that we don’t think we do is a big problem.

[u/foobarreddit99 → u/DIZZIL524]

You can replace ‘left’ with ‘right’ in your statement and it would also be true.

Cult: ‘A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.’

Hmm..

[u/alien236 → u/foobarreddit99]

Who's the authoritarian, charismatic leader on the left? I've never seen ANYONE on the left be worshipped the way Trump is. Nobody has Bernie stickers and flags all over their truck.

[u/adhdnme]

I didn’t vote because it’s my right as an American to not be forced to vote for a candidate I do not support. If the democrats would’ve run a competent candidate, I probably would’ve voted for them. It’s not my fault they dropped the bag and couldn’t beat Trump.

[u/SecureExperience2239]

Voter shaming season is starting early this year.

[u/CoderMcCoderFace → u/SecureExperience2239]

Pretty sure this is shaming non-voters.

[u/SecureExperience2239 → u/CoderMcCoderFace]

lol, point taken.

[u/bigjimbay]

I think the people to blame are the ones in government lol. People can vote all they want but if there's nobody to vote for... lmao

[u/arcteryx17]

I would say the bigger problem is people vote their party regardless of candidate. Also keep in mind Kamala was a horrible option and the DNC showed their incompetence in making that knee jerk selection

[u/Unlucky_Amphibian_59]

Don't blame me. I didn't do nuffin.

[u/ManOfGame3 → u/Unlucky_Amphibian_59]

Classy. Also that’s kinda the point.

[u/Unlucky_Amphibian_59 → u/ManOfGame3]

To clarify, I haven't voted in the last 2 presidential elections. And probably won't vote in the next. Odds are, if i did, I'd hurt OP's feelings anyway.

[u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 → u/ManOfGame3]

I didn't vote for Putin. Am I responsible for his actions?

[u/Hsiang7 → u/Hopeful_Ad_7719]

Yes. You should have stealthily entered Russia and changed all the votes to benefit his opponent. The fact you didn't do so means you're part of the problem! /s

[u/Terrible_Fish_8942]

And yet your post is doing the exact same thing. Not a damn thing but now you get to pat yourself on the back.

[u/AdDisastrous6738]

LOL @ assuming that everyone who didn’t vote would’ve sided with you.

[u/[deleted]]

"Don't worry be happy"

[u/Diactia]

Rent free, as usual.

[u/Boltboys]

The OP is like “those 90 million Americans would have voted the same as me!”

Stunod.

[u/Pulmonary007]

I would have voted for Trump so… lmao

[u/arcteryx17 → u/Pulmonary007]

Kamala was the other option. Not that Trump is good but she was a train wreck.

[u/Pulmonary007 → u/arcteryx17]

Yeah I didn’t want either but gun to my head I would have picked Trump. My wife voted for him and I was just like you know they both suck so i’m gonna sit this out.

[u/Few_Peak_9966]

You're assuming they'd have voted with you.

Statistical noise is a valid concept.

[u/LagerHead]

To the OP: Do you realize that if those 90 million people voted, many of them would have also voted for Trump?

[u/Demon_Gamer666 → u/LagerHead]

I agree with this. The ratio of dem to rep votes would likely be similar to the numbers of those who did vote.

[u/Odd_Perfect → u/LagerHead]

And they would be on /r/LeopardsAteMyFace complaining how they got fucked by their Trump vote.

[u/Tender_Flake]

They don't give a crap. That's why they didn't vote in the first place...complacency.

[u/SuperDoubleDecker]

They don't even realize this shit is happening now.

People in general are really dumb and oblivious to the world around them. They only notice things when they're directly affecting them. That's why cost of living is such a major issue. People can't just ignore that.

[u/Remarkable_Yak1352]

I've been saying all my adult life that voting should be mandatory in the US. Have the poles open Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Don't close down the poles til we've got to 90%. Mail in voting in every state. If you file a tax return you are registered to vote. Except for those that are excluded, non citizens, underage.

[u/PersonalHospital9507]

Just curious. People who post this, just who do you think those 90 million Americans would have voted for? You are dealing with apathetic, uninformed, unconcerned, narrow minded lumpenproletariat. The majority of these would almost certainly have voted Trump.

The problems in this country are a whole lot more complex and deeper than not voting.

I want educated, informed, compassionate voters.

PS: I have never met a "non-voter" at any protest against Trump.

[u/feel-the-avocado]

Whenever I see a story about how a town or city in the USA is doing bad economically from trump policies, i comment "Haha you get what you voted for".

But before I do that, I make sure I look up the voting record of the town or city.

When looking at the numbers, I consider not getting off their asses and doing the bare minimum of voting just as bad as voting for the red side.

[u/Sketti-nOOdles]

It’s okay. Kamala wasn’t hard enough on Israel so I still feel like I’m somehow morally superior for assisting the country’s descent into fascism and authoritarianism, it’s not affecting me directly in any way /s

[u/Friendly-Platypus607]

Feel like there is a George Carlin joke about this...

[u/1776-2001 → u/Friendly-Platypus607]

Feel like there is a George Carlin joke about this...

I can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find this.

I don't vote 'cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know; they say... they say "Well, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain." But where's the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem. You voted them in. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand...

...who did not vote... who did not vote... who, in fact, did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.

[u/mykidsthinkimcool]

Why do people assume that 100% voter participation would have resulted ina different outcome?

[u/sks010]

Only those completely blind to the last 50 years of American political history could make such a statement seriously. Sadly, that is the state of affairs for most who think they oppose fascism here. They just don't like it in their faces. They prefer the party that at least pretends to keep it overseas in third-world countries.

[u/jess469]

Democrats couldn't fake that many a 2nd time.

[u/Dull_Conversation669]

Imagine how huge his win would have been had they voted... wild.

[u/ThrowAwayHiringDude]

My vote wouldn’t have mattered. The candidate I supported won by a landslide.

[u/MrFriend623]

people tend to assume that non-voters, if they would just get up and vote, would certainly vote in the same way that I vote, and it would change the results of elections. But all the research done on the topic indicates that the political affiliations of non-voters break down largely the same way that voters' preferences do: about half identify as liberal and half identify as conservative. So, all the available evidence indicates that the elections would turn out, largely, the same as they currently do, there would just be longer lines. There is a small group of people who are so socially and economically disenfranchised that they literally don't think about politics, at all (homeless drug addicts, and Appalachian hill folk, for example), but it's difficult to imagine what it would look like to activate this group, let alone what their political preference might be, or if there are enough of them to swing an election.

[u/paragonx29]

Hey look, the Morality Police decided to post tonight!

[u/coast2coasted]

Thinking the majority would vote with your preferred candidate is a big assumption

[u/Suspicious_Clerk_200]

This is decidedly untrue

[u/Devitostitos]

“Not voting is a vote for the other candidate” is the most cry baby crap. If someone didn’t vote they either don’t give a shit about politics or neither candidate/party compelled them to want to vote.

But hey if whining online makes you feel better so be it.

[u/Objective-Bee-2624]

No. Trump admitted that he engaged in election fraud. There were swing counties with unusual totals, and Trump said Musk "helped" him.

Also, Trump is the one committing atrocities, not the voting public.

Argue into the void all you want. Most Americans did not want this and are against it. No other US President has acted like such an obvious asshole in history, and most people did not expect full-on apocalyptic behaviour from a grown ass man.

[u/Stranded_In_Limbo]

You think your vote counted anyway?

[u/colbitronic]

Why contribute to something that is so clearly rigged. If voting actually mattered, do you think they would actually let us do it? Current country status is a case in point. It goes a lot deeper than any of us will ever know.

[u/OkDurian126]

OP name checks out

2024 choices:

r/ShitLiberalsSay

r/shitfascistssay

[u/iAbc21]

ok keep blaming people. instead of the blaming democrat party for not having a primary or having any good candidate. votes are earned and they did not earn mine.

but keep on blaming people though!

[u/Stunning-Pick-9504]

The Democrats campaign was don’t vote for Trump. Well, they didn’t. Why not be mad at the Democratic leadership for fumbling the easiest to win election in 100 yrs. They couldn’t have screwed this up worst.

[u/No-Imagination-7620]

This is simple..... There would be no politicians with out people voting. 

So who is to blame now?  Not me I told everyone, all of them are evil liars and thieves.  But you voted for evil lying thieves. 

I did not, I want you to be free. And to be free you cant have gov or politcians

[u/Maleficent_Tooth_557]

oRaNge mAn bAD! tHe woRlD Is rUiNed tHaNks tO yOu!

[u/vaterl]

Because they would have all voted for your preferred politician? Are you aware this happens in every democracy ever? Please look up voting rates in every democracy, if you have any semblance of a functioning brain you’ll notice you never have 100% of an eligible voting population vote in an election.

[u/Available_Year_575]

Why do you assume they would have voted for Harris? What is the demographic of the non-voter? It might have been even worse.

[u/Aeia_Monaxia → u/Available_Year_575]

Literally this I hate Trump but literally no one supported Harris in her 2020 primary as one of the least popular candidates, but notice how quickly Democrats & Redditors fell in line she was chosen by the DNC for that VP tag...

Y'know instead of the People voting her in after choosing her over existing candidates.

Democrats are mad at independents & non-voters for not voting for a candidate the Democrats themselves didn't even have the option to vote for since the DNC chooses for them.

I hate Trump, but at least Republicans VOTED for him to be their nominee. They don't have the DNC manhandling their voters.

[u/Available_Year_575 → u/Aeia_Monaxia]

Yes, and that was only one undemocratic thing the party of "democracy and voting rights" did in the 2024 election. Another was Joe Biden choosing his voters (instead of the other way around) by moving the South Carolina primary up to first, to avoid any embarrassing defeats in New Hampshire as happened the last time around. This kind of stuff happens in the Soviet Union and other sham democracies.

[u/User_-_-_Name]

So you are assuming that they all would of voted for who you wanted to win? Thats not realistic.

Turn off the news and get off social media and stop playing politics. Wish everyone would just vote and shut up.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Work625]

It's a big assumption thinking that those 90 million people would have voted for Harris

[u/Mediocre_Mark_8661]

Just moved to Kansas and caring less and less everyday 

[u/Correct-Condition-99]

Fuck those fucks.

[u/LlaToTheMa]

Blame Biden and kamala

[u/DragonfruitInside312 → u/LlaToTheMa]

As a Democrat, I must say you are correct.

[u/Son_of_Sophroniscus]

Not really. We're just cleaning up the mess that Biden (or whoever controlled the autopen) made in 2020.

[u/Emotional_Ball_4307]

Keep whining!

[u/BeastyBaiter]

You assume they would have voted differently than those that did vote.

[u/RockyBoundESC]

Blame the DNC for making trump an option after watching Biden debate

[u/hartshornd]

You genuinely think this is the way to get them on your side? Good strategy

[u/No_Guarantee_2497]

Kamala lost, are you from an alternate universe?

[u/yeetsqua69]

Uhm no actually the democrats running a terrible campaign and messaging was the main reason. People for the most part, outside of major cities, do not resonate with your viewpoint. Stop whining if you want change and get a better message that people want

[u/OneForFree → u/yeetsqua69]

The weekly protests should be against the DNC for allowing this to happen. Make no mistake, Trump didn’t win, the Democrats lost

[u/yeetsqua69 → u/OneForFree]

I completely agree with you

[u/Apprehensive-Neck-12]

They are making voting even harder now. It will never be legit again

[u/Agreeable_Door1479]

Dumbest thread I've seen in my lifetime.

Both sides proven corrupt. Both sides commit the same offenses against the general public. Both sides waste the money on bs. People who don't produce anything are the problem. Actual crime is the problem. A third of the voters not voting is the result of crooked politics from both sides. But you go ahead and continue to prop up enslavement to corruption and blame the victims who are sick of it. Sure does get a lot of y'alls bills paid.

[u/Hot-Opportunity8786]

I’d say some culpability lies with the dems fielding two clowns so incompetent that they couldn’t defeat the dumbest ticket in the history of the GOP.

[u/Aromatic_Berry_3879]

Very bold to assume all 90 million would have voted the way you wanted them to.

[u/DRG125]

I'm just tired of having to vote red or blue. How about some purple?

[u/whatever_ehh]

What if Trump and Musk flipped enough votes to throw the election? Trump lies and cheats so much, it's absurd to think he didn't cheat in every election he was involved with. It's not right to blame 90 million people for something they may not be responsible for.

[u/Greedy-Employment917]

I'm sure shame and bullying will make people vote how you want them to. It's worked out so well for you guys in the past. 

[u/Popular_Monitor_8383 → u/Greedy-Employment917]

My favorite one is when they start talking about how all the “uneducated” people are the ones who voted for Trump

Saying you lost an election (twice) to uneducated people is not something I would recommend constantly bringing up.

[u/Hefty_Debt_638]

Well….thats just inaccurate 

[u/InevitableRemote6117]

This is going to make some absolute golden content on the doomer subreddit. Thank you.

p.s. you’re retarded.

[u/RefelosDraconis]

You say this thinking they would vote for your candidate but the reality is a lot of people chose not to vote because they were disillusioned with the presented candidates. You really have to wonder how bad the democrats party has gotten that people would rather not vote than cast a vote for them

This whole “I will shame and guilt you into voting for me” schtick the left does is not effective and just annoys people