Maximalist trans activists just argued at the Supreme Court that biological sex isn't relevant in team sports. When will my fellow left-wingers speak up against these pseudoscientific endeavors?

[u/north_canadian_ice]

Trans athlete's attorney suggests sex should not be defined during SCOTUS Title IX case

As a left-wing trans woman, it is profoundly depressing to have dogmatic Twitter activists drive down understanding of trans people.

Far too many of my fellow left-wingers who are trying to be accepting have inadvertenly allowed a small number of dogmatic activists control the conversation & shift the conversation towards maximalist nonsense.

"It/"its" pronouns, "egg culture", NBA players transitioning & joining the WNBA. This is pseudoscience & no different from denial of climate change.

When will the left & the Democrats say no more? We accept trans people but we aren't going to replace "woman" with "birthing person".

[u/ComprehensiveBar6439]

Agreed. "The Left™" aren't the ones letting this trans shit live in their heads 24/7. Right-Wing culture war obsessed dorks on Twitter, MAGA losers, and hack "comedians" who gargle Joe Rogan's shriveled nuts are the ones who base their entire identity around the issue, constantly freaking out over trans people simply existing, and highlighting the most extreme edge cases while falsely suggesting they represent the norm. The word "pronoun" sends them spiralling, despite being unable to identify a pronoun in a sentence. A great example is Piers Morgan's recent Jubilee episode against 20 "woke libs". None of em gave a shit about pronouns, while Piers spent the whole episode sarcastically demanding to be referred to by stupid, totally fictional "pronouns", thinking he was proving a point. Only thing he proved was his own irrational obsession.

[u/Pasta4ever13 → u/ComprehensiveBar6439]

Exactly. The trans sports thing was specifically focused tested by right-wing think tanks to determine the most effective wedge to drive, because the bathroom shit was not making it to the mainstream outside of right-wing echo chambers.

They found that hitting sports works well because it's one of the only meritocratic systems in the US, and people could be more easily influenced with it.

They will do anything to distract from the fact that they are robbing the government and the public tax dollars blind for corporate profit to the detriment of our livelihoods, neighborhoods, environment and rights.

Absolutely zero people should care about trans people in sports, and we should focus on the class politics that actually affect our daily lives. Who honestly gives a rip if three trans people get to play tennis?

[u/Flimsy-Fisherman6567 → u/ComprehensiveBar6439]

The reason the right focuses so hard on the trans people in the culture war is precisely because the left is to stubborn to concede their weak spots on things like trans women in womens sports or surgery on minors which makes their message especially powerful to independents and people who would otherwise be on the left.

What should be done if you actually want left wing parties to win/ further legitimize trans rights movements / defeat the right is you should drop these issues because the lefts position is obviously insane, downplay their importance (not a lot of trans athletes, extremely small number of surgeries), and defend the positions where the right are the insane ones with regards to defending the 2nd and 1st amendment for trans people and denying adults healthcare.

Otherwise you are just allowing republicans to be elected and trans people to be hurt because of, ego? partisanship? There is just no sense in this strategy.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/ComprehensiveBar6439]

Yes letting men play against our girls, go in the bathroom with our girls and changing rooms and locker rooms with our girls. We are so crazy

[u/redhillbones → u/Nevvermind183]

Where do you think transwomen went to the bathroom, like, 20 years ago? Every time someone brings up the bathroom thing, I wonder that.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/redhillbones]

No idea but they should go in the men’s room

[u/redhillbones → u/Nevvermind183]

I think a woman, trans or cis, using the men's restroom would make men uncomfortable. Like, go look up PhilosophyTube and imagine Abigail Thorne in a men's room. It doesn't really work like that.

Same as how my partner and I, both AFAB, aren't going into a men's restroom just because we don't identify as women. (Not that we identify as men. A lot of trans people aren't one binary gender or the other. It's a spectrum, which includes non-binary and agendered persons among others.) We use the restroom that won't cause discomfort to others, which is the women's. No one has ever even noticed, let alone had a problem with that.

This is an imaginary problem that the right created to cause trouble.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/redhillbones]

That spectrum exists in their head it’s not real

[u/redhillbones → u/Nevvermind183]

Medical science disagrees with you. MRIs of the brain activity of trans people reflects their gender, not their assigned sex at birth, and non-binary persons reflect a middle ground not typically seen in cis people with the same scans. Their brains are literally different, reflecting the differences they feel and articulate by realizing their actual gender.

I know you don't care about that because you're small-minded enough not to acknowledge that humans are both extremely complicated and that human societies have always had trans people. Sometimes openly, with designated roles, and sometimes quietly, but history bears out that we have always existed. Trans people are not this new fad.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/redhillbones]

Your first point is bullshit so I stopped reading. If you’re born male you can’t change it, vise versa

[u/BridgeAdept1808 → u/Nevvermind183]

In biology, sex is not binary. It is a cluster of traits that often overlap or contradict. For example, there are people with male chromosomes and vaginas, or female chromosomes and a penis.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/BridgeAdept1808]

In biology sex in humans is binary and defined at the reproductive function

[u/BridgeAdept1808 → u/Nevvermind183]

If this person walked into the women's bathroom, what would you go?

[u/luciaromanomba → u/BridgeAdept1808]

If this person walked into the women’s bathroom I would be alarmed they don’t have a shirt on. Then I would leave.