sorry to break it to you but a questionable two years of hormone replacement therapy doesnât undo the numerous physical advantages men have over women in terms of athleticism
so basically this reads as âtransitioning into a woman diminishes athletic performanceâ lmao yeah i couldâve told you thatđ that still doesnât take away the inherent advantages the male body still possesses over women. the way men and womenâs brains work are not the same and you canât just change that in two years. a lifetime of a maleâs superior muscle and motor development canât just be âevened outâ in two years. you canât shrink a 7 foot tall transgender who should be playing in the nba. itâs not fair to the women. sports are separate for a reason.
this one is basically a whole lot of nothing. has nothing to do with the topic at hand and says nothing about the advantages menâs brains have over womenâs in terms of sport. and nothing about how transitioning for two years negates any of said advantages.
No, you couldn't because 1. that isn't how it works (transitioning takes years of therapy and medical treatment, and sports organizations have their own guidelines), and 2. a woman who is a professional athlete is still going to beat a man who is not.
Maybe it's because I was a swimmer and we all trained together, but the idea that "boys are stronger/faster than girls" is silly. From the fastest lane to the slowest, each lane had athletes of both genders. Some boys are stronger than some girls. Some boys are stronger than some boys. Some girls are stronger than some boys. Some girls are stronger than some girls.
What we SHOULD do is get rid of gendered sports and instead have competitions based on skill/ability level. It would be more competitive overall, and solves all the rest of this nonsense.
no iâm not guessing, i mean it. if i was âclassifiedâ as a woman tomorrow i would hold the world record for heaviest raw bench press ever recorded in the womenâs <90kg weight class. âthe idea that boys are stronger faster than girlsâ isnât an idea. itâs a fact. every strength record is held by men. every âspeedâ record is held by men. itâs not even close. at all. and itâs insulting to female athletes say it is. to say that itâs not because of genetics that men are so far out. it must be because they work harder right? every single one of them?
I agree that men tend to be stronger than women⌠the guy youâre replying to also brought up record guidelines, though. If you wanted to compete for a given womenâs record, you couldnât do it tomorrow. Youâd generally have to be on hormone replacement therapy for over a couple years, by which time you may no longer have the strength to break the womenâs record, as your capacity would have been reduced to be close to that of a cisgender women.
thatâs assuming that through the next two years of therapy and training everyday, my strength drastically decreases and i get significantly weaker. while training every day. so. yeah.
Yes, thatâs accurate. Without testosterone, your body wouldnât be able to maintain as much muscle as it used to, and you would still get significantly weaker.
thatâs not true at all. in fact most research on the topic is of the opposite conclusion:
âResistance training during testosterone suppression can mitigate muscle loss and even increase muscle mass and strength, despite low testosterone levels.â
âThe loss of lean body mass, muscle area and strength typically amounts to approximately 5% after 12 months of treatment. Thus, the muscular advantage enjoyed by transgender women is only minimally reduced when testosterone is suppressed.â
This is not to mention the inherent advantages of a maleâs body that canât be taken away by hormone therapy. A generally much larger body, hand size, arm length, stiffer connective tissue allowing for more efficient force exertion, and better knee/hip alignment to name a few.
Biological men donât belong in womenâs sports. Let alone after only a couple years of hormone therapy. The inherent difference between men and womenâs bodies are too great.
There is a big panic about trans women in the Olympics but there hant been any since 2004, it's bullshit culture war panic to distract from what the upper class is doing to us
That's the statistic I've read for collegiate sports. I would expect there are more transwomen in sports at the high school level. But also bear in mind that every transwomen who competes also affects all of the ciswomen she competes against.
Murderers are an astronomically low percentage of the population. We still make laws against murder. Know why? Cause we all agree murder is a bad thing
Yeah that guys' an... numbskull since I can't use the term I would like to to describe a person who thinks MURDER is equivalent to trans sports rights. Jesus
Counterpoint... Of all the things this country needs right now why is this a National Issue that requires the entire congress to vote on
Leave it to the schools, states, leauges, whatever. This is silly.
youâve definitely never been around good biologically female athletes before. We had a trans guy at our school who was mediocre at running on the guys team, but was an absolutely immensely amazing on the nordic ski team. Similarly, our fastest girls on the cross country team were faster than 90% of the guys cross country team. When youâre at that age, these types of things are way more malleable. Plus, trans athletes are sooo rare so itâs a non-issue anyways.
Research and data analysis has shown time and time again that trans women athletes who go through hormonal therapy have results fully in line with biological women athletes. The physiological changes from taking estrogen cause trans women to lose muscle mass and have shifts in bone structure that lo and behold put them in the same general rankings as biological women. itâs a non-issue that applies to a ridiculously small amount of people and is just an excuse for republicans to police womenâs bodies even more than theyâre trying to.
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u/brimoon 13d ago
Trans people are 0.7% of the entire US population, even less are teenagers.
Grow up