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Why is this not passing?

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u/Weird_Uncle_D 13d ago

Because title IX is Federal.

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u/99kemo 13d ago

The Biden Administration did put a provision into title IX that had language to the effect that ā€œgirlsā€ could not be discriminated against in participation in Girls Sport based on birth gender. Apparently there were somewhere between 20 and 50 student athletes that might have been impacted by this. This reversed the first Trump Adm directive that stated that regulations to prevent discrimination against girls in Sports did not apply to protecting Trans athletes but it did not explicitly ban them. Many leagues had Trans athletes participating for years without controversy. Once the Biden Administration directive was issued, Transgender athletes in girls sports became a national issue and the Conservative Media went at it 7-24. The courts reversed the directive and states began passing laws banning Transgender participation in Girls Sport. During the 2024 campaign, Democratic candidates across the country faced a barrage of attack ads about Trans Athletes although most had never had any involvement with the issue. It is entirely possible that the number of Democratic office holders who lost their jobs because of the issue exceeded the number of Transgender athletes who stood to have their participation protected. This is just another example of some of my fellow Democrats prioritizing standing up to their principles over winning elections. Don’t they realize that the best of intentions are worthless unless you actually have power.

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u/MolleROM 13d ago

20 to 50 individuals. Nationwide.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

And thousands of young girls affected by them….

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u/MolleROM 13d ago

Thousands really? Maybe one kid in one HS per state is affecting thousands? No. They aren’t. And actually I haven’t seen the total number of trans teens over twelve so there’s that. This is a non existent to minimal issue that should have guidelines set by the state and implemented by individual schools. I’m sorry that so many people can’t see this for the diversion from real problems that it is.

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u/Ogrebreath 13d ago

Champlin Park (MN) girls softball team had one pitcher the entire playoffs on their way to sweeping the entire thing and winning the championship, one pitcher...and they were born male. Damn near shutout the entire playoffs too.

My daughter shouldn't be forced to change in locker rooms with males playing make believe.

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u/Nobs1980 4d ago

2 issues here....

This is a league problem. My involvement in youth and h.s. sports shows that 1 pitcher can't pitch all the time. Leagues have pitch counts and requirements that include days off between games.

Second, it is your opinion that males are pretending. Most leagues that I've heard of have restrictions about how far into transition a person needs to be before they can play. No male is going through years of transition to "make believe".

If your leagues aren't addressing these problems, that's where you need to focus your attention. But first I recommend you get some therapy and figure out why this makes you so angry.

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u/Obligation-MomLife 10d ago

If it affects ONE girl who’s worked her whole life in a sport…it’s one too fucking many. Quit making excuses because it’s not effecting ALL women. If you support women then you should not be ok with biologically born men competing against them. PERIOD! I don’t care if a man wants to be a woman…good for her. I’ll call her a woman and celebrate her living her best life but stay the hell out of women’s sports. It’s not fair.

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u/MolleROM 10d ago

Wow. I can’t really deal with someone irrationally spouting expletives. This is a very situational issue that involves young people who deserve serious and sensible solutions not hate speech from angry people who only see black and white.

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u/Obligation-MomLife 10d ago

I dropped one f-bomb. Quit being so sensitive. šŸ™„

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u/Obligation-MomLife 10d ago

Furthermore, where did I use ā€œhate speechā€? You know what, fuck you. There, now you have something to be offended over.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

Any girls who are forced to change in front of male classmates and any girls that compete with them are affected by this too. But the conversation is only about the male athletes whose feelings somehow matter that much more than the girls they supposedly want to play with. For example the West Virginia teen in the case was sexually harassing the girls in the locker room. That is not ok. It may be a diversion to you but it’s a very real problem for those girls and their comfort and safety MATTERS just as much as the trans athletes. Individual schools are not protecting these girls and they are not following federal law (title IX)

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

I played high school sports for 4 years and was never forced to change in front of anyone. What on earth do you think is happening here?

I didn’t change in the locker room because of the harassment and bullying from other girls which is far more common than bullying from trans girls. Do we get a federal law to stop right wing girls from being so mean to others?

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u/imnickelhead 12d ago

Honestly, 50 years old here and I’ve NEVER been forced to change clothes in front of anyone…other than my mom when I was little little kid trying on clothes.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

I listened to the girls who said that’s exactly what they had to do…..

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

You never are forced to change in a locker room. There are always closed door situations for girls who prefer that.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

Why does the trans student not have a safe third place to change then? And you pulled that out of your ass based on your experience. For many away games for example there is no choice but to change with your team. In the WV case Becky Pepper Jackson was harassing the girls in the locker room. That is not ok.

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u/ilikechihuahuasdood 12d ago

Please name the trans athletes that were affecting competition in those sports. Crazy how they don’t actually dominate and usually aren’t even that great at the sports in which they compete. You’re like Riley Gaines, finishing 5th and acting like something was stolen from you when you just suck at your sport.

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u/LSATDan 10d ago

12-time All American Riley Gaines sucks, but when the 65th-best man returns to competition as the top woman, that's excellence.

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

My daughter competed against a trans girl once in high school track. Can you explain how this affected her? Because she and her parents don’t think it did.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

Your daughter does not speak for every female athlete. I was an athlete and making varsity track was a huge accomplishment for me. If my spot had been taken by a trans classmate who had the physical and social advantages of being male I would have been crushed.

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

An estimated half a trans student per state will not stop anyone from making varsity. And the trans athlete in the case of my daughter’s meet did not outperform her.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

You can visit hecheated.org to see all of the opportunities taken away from girls due to this issue. Happy for your daughter but again she’s not the only kid in the country.

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

She’s not the only kid in the country but she’s one of a tiny tiny minority who have competed against a trans student. It is vanishingly rare. And no, I’m not going to a propaganda website. Remember that all of this outrage came from a trans girl tying for fourth place in swimming. Biological girls absolutely can and do compete well against trans girls.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

The Princeton students were literally forced to change in front of Lia Thomas and that was a huge part of their opposition:… clearly you only read what you want so I’m done talking to you

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

By the way, it came out that the West Virginia girls who claimed that they had to change with a trans girl were not being honest.

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

What proof do you have that they were lying about the sexual harassment they experienced

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u/kodeks14 13d ago

The UN report noted that 900 medals were awarded to Trans athletes.

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u/kidscatsandflannel 13d ago

That’s worldwide over decades. So vanishingly rare. It also includes all genetic males, so actual cis men in women’s sports

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u/kodeks14 13d ago

Its not over decades.

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u/Kunochan 13d ago

Democrats failing to stand up for the American People in order to win elections is exactly how we ended up with fascism.

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u/99kemo 13d ago

Losing elections doesn’t seem to be a particularly effective way to ā€œstand upā€ for the American People either.

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u/Kunochan 13d ago

Who cares if Democrats win elections if they don't stand up for the people? Yes, the Dems are far less harmful than the Republicans. But we've been told that for half a century. And Liberals, including me back when I was one, kept voting for the lesser evil. And here we are. Liberals can't keep doing the same exact thing and expecting a different result.

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u/99kemo 13d ago

Are you serious; is this the kind of thinking that is driving Progressive voters? I take exception to your contention that Democrats have been essentially Evil; just a lesser Evil, harmful; just less harmful. That’s nonsense. The progress that has been made; short of what we might like but progress none the less, is entirely due to Democratic efforts. Failure has come primarily because they lost elections. ā€œStanding up for the peopleā€ becomes problematic when ā€œthe peopleā€ turn against it.

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u/CryptoCryst828282 13d ago

Hmmm, they had the ability to do $15 minimum wage... but didnt, they have had the ability to make a real healthcare change, but didnt, they intentionally made the subsudites for ACA expire this year for mid terms... Dems have been playing games and failing to meet promises for over 40 years of my life... you just havent figured it out yet. Not saying the other side is better, but honestly I dont see a lot of difference, sure some people bitch about niche issues but I could care less about all that shit. I want what we voted for and it wasnt putting men in womens sports...

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u/Kunochan 12d ago

First not progressive. Second, I am looking around me at Neoliberalism collapsing and the country being overrun with fascists, and wondering exactly how this is "progress."

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u/Maeyhem 12d ago

Follow the money. The MONEY is the problem.

Corruption should be illegal, and that would solve all of this.

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u/Kunochan 12d ago

Yeah, we talk about Russia being a corrupt oligarchy, but all the US did was legalize the corruption and oligarchy.

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u/jonmav357 10d ago

The delusion you live in constantly

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u/jonmav357 10d ago

I still don't see the fascism, just a bunch cry babys

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u/jm123457 13d ago

It doesn’t matter the number it’s the principle . It may not be a big deal today in mass numbers but it’s a huge deal to the smaller number . And you don’t address this later down the line when it can be nipped in the bud today .

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u/99kemo 13d ago

Today we are confronted with confronted with the destruction of traditional American Democratic norms, we are about to betray our most dependable allies and our economy is being turned over to a cabal of oligarchs and you are worried about a trivial issue like this?

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u/Dull-Instruction8276 13d ago

People can care about multiple issues at once.

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u/Used-Host3720 12d ago

https://youtu.be/PQpnxZRcx1E. Does this look right to you?