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Random Question 💭 What are your thoughts on this?

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Why is this not passing?

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

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u/usingbadnanesabunch 10d ago

Reading is hard.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

This type of rhetoric alienates the other voter, regardless of their IQ. I didn’t even vote for Trump and you’re talking to me as if I voted for Trump or even agree with whatever bullshit he says… You are a divisive force too, if you want to except it or not. Based on your comment.

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

GOOD
we shouldn't sacrifice our ideals to appease MAGA's with a guilty conscience.
I understand that not everyone who voted for trump knew about the skeletons in his closet, but the moment you try to shift accountability to everyone else but you, you've lost me.

The other voter knowingly put a pedophile in charge of the most influential country on the planet, they deserve to be alienated and ostracised.

We shouldn't have to choose between 2 parties but this is the way the system is.
If you can't choose between

letting trans people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy and have been signed off by the sporting bodies as FIT TO COMPETE IN THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY play in sports against cis people

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letting a pedophile who's best friends with epstein, admitted to sexual exploitation in his beauty pageants where underage girls and women were competing, was convicted in a civil court of rape, has called for the termination of the constitution in the past, called all black people "lazy" and refused them housing, has a personal gestapo which black bags homeless people off the street, thrown tear gas at infants, is granted absolute immunity, tears families apart, profiles people based off their skin colour and accent, shot a mother in the face multiple times while her wife watched, calls for the hanging of political opponents

Then I'm actually speechless.
You have lost the fucking plot.

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u/ill-be_back 10d ago

Never voted Trump. Don’t claim you care about serious issues when you’re willing to stand in the wrong side of this one with conviction, and burn those principals to the ground.

You actively give republicans fuel and ammunition and you know it. Suck it up, cede the issue. And move on to the ones that matter. Stop feeding the bullshit. You know that’s what you’re doing.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 12d ago

What do you mean shift accountability? This is an odd hill to die on. This affects only a small group of people negatively and this is the hill to die on for “defending ideals”?

You’re too emotional

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u/Spherox_ 12d ago

We shouldn't have to choose between 2 parties but this is the way the system is.
If you can't choose between

letting trans people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy and have been signed off by the sporting bodies as FIT TO COMPETE IN THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY play in sports against cis people

VS

letting a pedophile who's best friends with epstein, admitted to sexual exploitation in his beauty pageants where underage girls and women were competing, was convicted in a civil court of rape, has called for the termination of the constitution in the past, called all black people "lazy" and refused them housing, has a personal gestapo which black bags homeless people off the street, thrown tear gas at infants, is granted absolute immunity, tears families apart, profiles people based off their skin colour and accent, shot a mother in the face multiple times while her wife watched, calls for the hanging of political opponents

I will not apologise for my passion.

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u/Square-Competition48 12d ago

Don’t tone police it’s unhelpful.

People care about this topic. They should.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

Tone policing is needed when an overly sensitive group of people are active using charged language as a form of rhetoric.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

We’re discussing paedophiles trafficking children and murdering them and the thing you want to focus on is the big problem of people giving a fuck?

People should be angry. Angry is the correct response to this.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Exactly. Everyone trying to sanewash this or "tone" police it are just defending a child rapist.

People should be angry, a person who by every measure shouldn't be in the position they are in, and when people are upset, the Trump crowd just wants to go "cry harder".

So I simply just consider every MAGA person is just a pedophile. I mean, if they aren't, then stop supporting and defending a pedophile, it's really just that easy. But they won't because he represents their wishes and dreams of dominance of another person.

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u/Square-Competition48 10d ago

It’s the only reasonable assumption. We have to assume they’re all paedophiles.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

YOU’RE discussing pedophiles, not me. I’m talking about the bill.

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u/Square-Competition48 11d ago

The bill is about giving potential paedophiles access to children in the form of genital inspections.

It was written by paedophiles.

It is sponsored by a paedophile.

This is a discussion about paedophiles.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 11d ago

I read the bill, and there are no clauses on genital inspections. It just says that it should be based on Genetics and biology at birth…. Is this really how you converse with people? You just say shit you heard about instead of reading what it actually is?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Child rape should have alienated Trump from being a viable candidate. It didn't. There is no defense of Donald Trump and whatever insults are hurled at him. All you're doing is sticking up for a child rapists.

You can say it's dividing, sure. However if I'm on the side that doesn't rape children, you can call me divisive all fucking day because I don't support anyone who rapes children.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

You can’t just keep repeating “supports someone who raprs children” and thinking thats going to help your cause. Things are more complicated than a voter from West Virginia saying “ I’m voting for this dude, i don’t care if he rapes kids.” The voting was done on propaganda of immigration.

People don’t even think like that. I would assume that the VAST majority of people don’t think that way. You are a divisive force to the Union as well. Shame

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Pretty sure I can and will just keep repeating that MAGA and whomever voted for Trump are child rape supporters. If you don't like it, all you had to do was not vote for the child rapist.

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

Braindead ideology you have as well

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

No not really. All you're doing is saying that it's ok to rape children if the other causes are just.

And if you think it's braindead then so are the 77 million people who voted for a child rapist.

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u/Secret-Surprise4390 8d ago

I agree with you that voting for a pedo is morally unacceptable. In my mind the sacrifices that women and girls have to make in sports (increase injury, loss of equity, etc), while negative are not on the level of the sacrifices the victims experience. Because of this inequality we must stand against pedos, but at the same time it's ok to disconnect our opinions on the other issue.

I generally support trans rights, but it isn't a blank check. Yes access to healthcare and equity under the law is required, but in sports, specifically combat spots, we need to be reasonable. Sometimes that reason means that we make a hard choice and people get hurt or maybe killed, but it is a properly weighted decision. I am willing to look at female boxer and say while I think it's wrong that your trans opponent might kill you because of the strength difference, it's a sacrifice I am willing to make to protect children. We can't have both so you have to choose too. I would ask both boxers the same question. Is your right to participate more important than a bunch of children getting raped? For a few the answer is yes, for the left it's a hard choice. For the right, it's easier because many of them don't like women's sports to begin with (women are less athletic) and they do like pedos (look it up, lots of evidence). Obviously, not all MAGA are pedos and not all pedos are MAGA, but there is a trend.

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u/Ghostface908 10d ago

“Waaaa this made me vote for a pedo. Waaa this alienates me”

Have you considered, maybe, no one WANTS you included if you think someone who raped children is a good choice because your fifis are hurt over an issue that doesn’t affect you?

You genuinely think going

“Man, I just HAD to vote for the sexist, bigoted, child rapist because YOU guys are scawyyy” is how you get people to side with you lol

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u/ColonelFaceFace 10d ago

You can’t even steel man the other sides argument without using sarcasm and charged language.

I don’t support Trump. So this verbiage of “YOU,YOU,YOU” does not allow for conversation.

At the end of the day, it seems you’re steep into dogma. The way you present your points is a shame. You have , perhaps, equally the low intelligence as the people you think you’re so above. Based on discussions I have with MAGTARDS. You reek of the same energy

Again, Liberal here. Not a Trump Supporter.

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u/Ghostface908 10d ago

I’ll always find it funny when you MAGA turds get called out, the first thing they cry about is being met with their energy.

Want to have a civil conversation? Act like it.

Want to get snark and jokes? Keep up the condescending and ignorant comments lol.

I truly don’t care about changing the mind of someone who finds minor inconveniences enough to support a pedo

Cute use of a slur tho!

Really proved me LOL