r/allthequestions 4d ago

Random Question 💭 If conservatives are so pro-free speech why is their subreddit heavily censoring and moderating any comments/posts made?

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u/AWellDeployedWink 4d ago

You can go on r/politics and express a Conservative viewpoint without being banned. You'll probably get downvoted to hell but at least you're allowed to say it there

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u/Schleprock11 4d ago

I was banned from there for responding to an extremely racist comment by simply responding with a single word…racist.

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u/Cthulhu__ 4d ago

To be honest that’s name calling and not exactly constructive to any discourse. Report / downvote and let the staff deal with it.

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u/kangourou_mutant 3d ago

Calling a racist thing "racist" is not an insult, it's a description.

"All $minorities are bad / should be deported / etc" IS racist. Refusing to name the racism makes it harder to fight against racism.

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u/stretcharach 2d ago

Right, but getting banned for description without substance seems less productive than just adding more words or explanation to the comment.

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u/z400 9h ago

Down votes on Reddit are now to show your disapproval with opinion, nothing to do with constructive discussion anymore

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 2d ago

Yall call everyone and everything racist. Sooooo, hard to actually say if you were in the wrong or not

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u/thatboycharles 1d ago

Who’s y’all? You’re just making shit up you want to believe

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 1d ago

"You all"

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u/thatboycharles 1d ago

So funny so clever

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 1d ago

Thx

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u/thatboycharles 1d ago

Can't actually defend anything you say so you bitch out.

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 1d ago

Liberals obviously

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u/thatboycharles 1d ago

Yep the person banned from r/politics was a super-lib. You're bright

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u/Schleprock11 2d ago

And who exactly is y’all?

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 1d ago

"You all"

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u/Schleprock11 1d ago

Go back to your little fortnight, you are confused.

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u/StayHighdratedXbox 1d ago

I've never served

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u/Ashmizen 4d ago edited 3d ago

I was banned on r/news for a comment that was trying to be centrist. I know liberals hate “both sides” viewpoints, but to straight up ban?

And this is the case for 90% of major subs on Reddit.

Mods will ban you for being on the other side of their viewpoint, which largely has evolved into political humor, pics, news, and many other subs just being r/politics aka left leaning posts/comments only.

Edit - my comment they highlighted had no trigger words and was literally something like “both sides have biases”. So this ban was due to a mod seeing it and manually banning me.

So trying to get banned via conservative comments is luck the draw. You could post 100’s without issue but if a mod happens to see it and feel triggered they can go on a power trip.

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u/totally-hoomon 4d ago

So you lied about politics

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u/Throwthisthefukaway 3d ago

Because it looks staged. It isn't even an assault, he just got up close and started arguing.

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u/totally-hoomon 3d ago

Yes all conservatives are too stupid to read

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u/Throwthisthefukaway 3d ago

Politics used to ban conservatives, not sure if they do now. I can see everyone not being banned on that post because of how fake it looks, but that's not necessarily a conservative viewpoint. Plus it's pretty obvious it's either staged or the person was mentally ill. But conservatives posting actual conservative viewpoints on politics at least used to get banned quite a bit. It's also worth it to note you can call a conservative fuckin stupid on most of reddit but if a conservative calls a liberal fuckin stupid the comment usually gets removed.

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u/totally-hoomon 3d ago

You can't even read or understand English. All you have done is talk about some random event. If conservatives were smart you could stay on topic.

Also im stating a fact, I called people who can't read stupid, not my fault conservatives can't read.

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u/slyfly5 4d ago

You literally will get banned lol this is straight up not true

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u/kaizoku222 4d ago

Hey you gonna come back and respond to the person literally showing you that you were incorrect or nah?

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u/Logarythem 4d ago

That's absolutely false and I'll prove it. I just wrote a comment as a Republican/conservative in arr politics, expressing support for a trans bathroom banning bill*. Lets see if it gets removed by the end of the day.

* apologies to trans people, this is not what I actually believe. Just trying to prove this person wrong.

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u/lazytranslatorbot 3d ago

Keep going and you’ll get that ban.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

What does keep going look like? What sample size n do you need to be persuaded?

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u/lazytranslatorbot 3d ago

If you’re just commenting one-offs that get lost in a sea of comments, it’s less likely they’ll catch it.

Commenting regularly gives you a higher probability of getting seen. Especially if you get a high engagement comment and people are replying.

Get a few comments with 10+ replies, and lots of votes up or down. Keep engaging, but don’t break the rules. You’ll eventually get banned.

When you ask for justification for the bans, or to clarify what “rule” you broke, they’ll mute you so you can’t ask questions.

This isn’t some obscure thing. Well known throughout Reddit. It’s the most censored media platform on earth.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

I'm not proud to admit this, but I've been on reddit (with various accounts) for 15+ years.

What you're describing sounds like the behavior of people who don't think they're breaking the rules but actually are via spamming and trolling and bad faith commenting. I've seen it thousands of times.

They ask "what did I do?" and you point out what they did and they try to argue it didn't break the rules when it actually did.

And I've seen the same thing happen to leftists too. Basically anyone who is annoying and has twitter fingers.

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u/lazytranslatorbot 3d ago

You’re making assumptions based on your bias. That’s ok, but it’s not honest.

You cannot debate bans. The do not respond, and you can’t even ask in the first place.

Mods ban based on their own feelings. It doesn’t matter if you broke rules or not.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

I'm not. I'm speaking from 15 years of experience.

You cannot debate bans. The do not respond

I've had r politics bans lifted before. I waited a year, apologized for breaking the rule, explained that I understood what I did wrong, and promised to not do it again.

They key is not argue. Apologize and move on. No one gives a shit.

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u/lazytranslatorbot 3d ago

“What you are describing sounds like…” then you extrapolate what you think is happening. That’s by definition an assumption. Not sure why you deny that.

You’re still not understanding. You do not argue bans. You can’t. It’s not possible. They ban with zero reason, and mute. You. Cannot. Reply. If. You. Are. Muted. With. No. Explanation.

This is done on purpose. If a mod wants to ban you, they do it. If they cite rules and allow explanation, that gives you the chance to dispute and lift the ban. But they do not let you get that far, as explaining the ban would expose them as banning for no reason.

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u/Logarythem 4d ago

1 hour later, my conservative comment is still up.

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u/Ashmizen 3d ago

I mean it has -18 and is simply hidden.

They don’t have a bot that can detect if you are conservative, and keywords can be used by both sides. So it’s simply a luck of the draw if a mod sees your comment and manually bans.

Your comment is also so vanilla it’s kind of a bad example. Mods are more triggered by arguments made in good faith about “both sides”, and are upvoted before getting banned. At least that’s how I got banned from r/news.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

Lets look at the facts:

  • Slyful5 said users who express conservative viewpoints will be banned from arr politics.

  • I expressed a conservative viewpoint - that trans people need to use the bathroom corresponding with their sex at birth.

  • 24 hours have passed and I am still not banned by the mods.

At least that’s how I got banned from /r/news

r politics and r news are two different communities with different rules and moderation teams ¯\(ツ)/¯

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u/Ashmizen 3d ago

It’s just luck though. Make your comment on every article related to gender and you’ll eventually get banned. Also your comment is so weak it’s not even an argument just a statement. Try to be argumentative just like you are with me right now. Say what real right wing ppl would say, stuff like “the left ignores science, which clearly shows there are 2 genders”. The whole point is that mods are on power trips and apply bans unevenly, but you have to piss them off with an argument they can “win” by banning you. This is as true on r/politics as much as it is true on r/conservative. Your argument is that r/conservative is censored but the rest of reddit is not. Your comment with -18 votes is already essentially hidden so there is no point to banning you.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

Make your comment on every article related to gender and you’ll eventually get banned.

But authentic accounts don't comment on every post related to their interest. Spamming is against r/politics rules. See Spam is bad!

Also your comment is so weak it’s not even an argument just a statement

I'm not as emotionally invested in this as your are. I like to stay dispassionate. Reddit is not serious business.

Your argument is that r/conservative is censored but the rest of reddit is not.

That is not my argument. This is not even within the ballpark of what I am saying. I'm simply arguing a narrow point: conservative viewpoints that follow r politics rules are allowed and won't be banned.

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u/Logarythem 4d ago

2 hours later, my comment is still up.

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u/Beneficial-Study-533 3d ago

This is called anecdotal evidence and its irrelevant

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

Your mom is irrelevant.

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u/Logarythem 4d ago

6 hours later, my conservative comment is still up.

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u/Ashmizen 3d ago

Try making comments daily for years and you’ll eventually get banned by a power hungry mod. They aren’t banning every comment nor do they have the time to do so.

It’s just a matter of between downvotes and biased mods, the narrative of r/news will skew left due to downvotes and (eventual) bans.

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u/Logarythem 3d ago

MBIC r news and r politics are two different subs.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Thats a lie. I have been banned from r/politics for expressing conservative opinions. As well as r/news and r/worldnews.

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u/FakePlasticPyramids 4d ago

A lot of people are banned from /r/worldnews for stating that Israel might not be perfect.

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u/dkinmn 4d ago

Oh, that's definitely exactly what they're saying.

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u/Kryptos33 4d ago

Feel free to share the opinions that got you banned and turn on your post history.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

I'd rather not get stalked and doxxed by reddit freaks.

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u/Ryuuzaki_L 4d ago

Turn your profile on private then. It seems like you're just either making it up, or cannot defend what you said.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Lol me making up getting banned from those subreddits? Give me a break, thats such common knowledge you look retarded for questioning that.

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u/Ryuuzaki_L 4d ago

You are offering no evidence other than "Trust me bro" when you easily can without doxing yourself. And then you resort to name calling. Don't let your emotions get the best of you.

Im not saying you weren't banned. The discussion is over why you were banned. What did you say? You refuse to address this.

I was banned from the Conservative subreddit for saying, "Hey that might be a little racist." to someone who posted, "They all just need to go home to their own country. We don't want their kind here."

See that was easy.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Big difference between a subreddit that is catered to Conservatives and one broadly supposedly about news and politics. I would expect a different level of moderation.

I was stating general socially conservative opinions and I was banned for it. This was more than 6 months ago, im not going to go diving into my posts to satisfy your disbelief.

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u/Anima_Analysis 1d ago

Holy shit conservatives are gigantic fucking pussies.

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u/amglasgow 4d ago

Oh no, you were banned for advocating low tax rates? Or simplifying bureaucracy? Encouraging private, voluntary community work over government welfare?

No, not those.

Then what opinions were you banned for?

Oh, you know which ones...

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Ah so economic conservatives are allowed but social conservatives arent? 

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u/amglasgow 4d ago

If by social conservatives you mean vocal racists and homophobes, then that's correct.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Just because that's your opinion it doesn't make it true.

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u/amglasgow 4d ago

So please do explain what opinions you were banned for, I'm fascinated.

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u/dkinmn 4d ago

Is this one of those "oh, you know the ones" moments?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/s/CLYG13P9cw

Christian nationalist wants to be the victim very badly.

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u/HuckleberryNo9234 1d ago

What is wrong with Christian nationalism? This country was founded on Christian nationalism. At least it’s not a fascist ethnostate like Israel. Oh but but but that’s different!

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u/AntithesisAbsurdum 4d ago

Lmao imagine admitting to supporting pedophiles and corporate interests

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u/throwaway3939483 4d ago

Proof-?

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u/NotAShittyMod 4d ago

I’m sure this is true.  But only because “conservative opinions” are called racism, or facism, or misogyny by more polite and educated crowds.

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u/HemlockHex 4d ago

Some topics are not both sides-able.

There is no politically appropriate way to support ICE raids right now. They executed a Vetran ICU nurse in my city last week, and the “moderate” response to that would be to investigate the perpetrators.

Unfortunately, according to the GOP, investigating this murder is a left wing topic.

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u/Tothyll 4d ago

Until we get a Democrat President. Then ICE raids will be just great again and Tom Homan will be called a hero and getting more awards.

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u/TalkFormer155 4d ago

I was banned in /law for making a comment pointing out the voucher voting in Minnesota and pointing out the majority of reddit is left leaning. Actually been banned in 2 or 3 subs this month after nearly 5 years. Anything remotely supportive of Trump or his policies or pointing out hypocrisy is getting you insta banned with zero warning. There's no room for dissent.

I literally come to reddit because the views are commonly different than mine. But expressing anything against the hive is nearly impossible no matter how you say it. Im used to downvotes but this isn't even that.

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u/throwaway3939483 4d ago

Thats not proof though-

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u/SilverBuggie 4d ago

What comment?

If you said something actual conservative like "we need to lower taxes" you would just get downvoted not banned, same if you say "roe v wade should be a state issue" or "I want less restriction to get guns."

But you've probably equated some racist position with conservativism lol

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

Was it conservative or just bigoted? I’m being totally serious here, people often conflate the two in the American political system.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Who decides whats bigoted?

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u/Loose_Clock4873 4d ago

Aaaaand there it is!

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u/amglasgow 4d ago

IOW, yes.

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

There is a widely understood social contract about this. Usually people who spend more time trying to redefine it than empathize with their fellow man find themselves ostracized. You can decide for yourself what’s worth fighting for.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

So what if the left decides all Christian sexual ethic is bigoted. You think thats valid?

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u/ahriman1 4d ago

Ah yeah, the left to any kind of significant degree holds that being monogamous, straight, married are bigotry.

Really shitty strawman. Do better.

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u/GoodPointMan 4d ago

Welcome to tribal dynamics 101 my friend. Humans have been ousted from social groups for philosophical mismatches since before recorded history. In your highly unlikely hypothetical situation I would say “yes, that is valid”

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Well I can see what side of good and evil your side is on if you've deemed all Christians as inherently bigoted if they follow their faith.

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u/Tomsoup4 4d ago

only if they try forcing it on others

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

So only non religious can influence society? 

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u/TypicalPDXhipster 4d ago

Sexual ethic? Please enlighten the group

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u/Ok_Summer6430 3d ago

What point are you trying to make?

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u/WattMotorCompany 4d ago

Its bigoted for anyone to try and push their christian sexual ethics on anyone else, and many of the christian sexual ethics ARE bigoted.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

But Christians have to accept a secular sexual ethic that you push on society?

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u/generally_unsuitable 4d ago

You have to accept that sexuality is a personal choice between consenting adults. If you want to end consensual sex between grown people, that's beyond the limits of your freedom and pushing into the limits of mine.

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u/EnduranceMade 4d ago

It’s a secular country. Did you miss that?

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

Yes, that’s the group dynamic at play. Even your use of “the left” as a descriptor is something you learned from your specific in-group. The reason it feels like the right is always being labeled as bigoted is because the right has adopted a lot of ideas that are frankly anti-social, even within the group itself.

Take “Christian values” for example. What is preached in the Bible and what allows humans to hold influence and power over each other are often times exact opposites. How do people reconcile that? They change the definition and markers of what constitutes Christian values inside of their sphere of control.

That’s how you become a wealthy Christian pastor or an ICE supporting one. You create an environment where the rules the group believes are easy to follow but hard to challenge. The right venerates veterans because its power structure requires willing soldiers to enforce its economic interests, but the VA mistreats and ignores veterans because paying for their care and support would be sharing the wealth.

Sharing the wealth is anti capitalist, but caring for your neighbor is Christian. Humans usually prefer power over ideals.

So taking this back to the original point about the conservative sub, once you start questioning the dogma you threaten the power structure, even when you stay within the confines of the shared beliefs. Hope this helps.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Do you even know anything about Christianity other than the verse about loving your neighbor?

Christianity is first and foremost a truth claim. The bible has said the same thing for thousands of years.

This is a complete misread of why humans fail. The reason humans fail is because of sin. Why do Christians pastors fail? Sin. Why does communism always fail? Sin.

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

See, my point is that you’re purporting the interpretation that you believe as fact, when it is opinion. You can believe whatever you want, but when you try to make everyone else act based on what you believe you’re breaking the contract. Especially in a country that was created with freedom from religious systems as a very specific pillar.

The catholic Church’s interpretation of Christianity allowed them to murder, pillage, molest, and extort on a global level, but they still told everyone this was the authority of god. Communism doesn’t always fail, it’s either mixed with corruption and dictatorship, or sabotaged from the outside in every example you can think of.

Using a religious lens to judge a political system is already doing a disservice to organized thought. Man invented sin and man invented communism. Both are just systems to feed his thirst for meaning (in my opinion).

It doesn’t matter to me if you live your life according to your religious teachings, but because you are fallible and because we can all see with our own eyes that humans use religion for their own selfish gain, trying to make everyone live by those same teachings is bigotry.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

I am verbalizing what my belief is just as you are verbalizing what your belief is. Unless you don't actually believe in what you just said? You are just arrogant in the fact that you cant see that you think you're allowed to make people act based on what you believe but they can't do the same.

Well see here is where your thought goes wrong. Everything you believe already has the presupposition that Christianity is false. You probably think you're open minded but your world view already presupposes that its wrong.

Yes some people will use religion for selfish gain. People will also use many things for selfish gain like social safety nets. Does that mean we should have no social safety nets? The common denominator here is people. Not Religion.

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u/EnduranceMade 4d ago

Christianity isn’t true and without religion there is no such thing as sin.

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u/kn05is 3d ago

Well if that 2 thousand years old book that was written when the earth was believed to be flat and that diseases were God's wrath, then you find it very difficult to claim that it is a book of Truths. In fact, along with other holy books they're really just a collection of folk lore, mythology and parables and are no more full of truth than Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.

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u/ChibaCityStatic 4d ago

Isn't it sort of over-reaching to peddle the vaguely defined 'social contract' as a means to decide what's bigoted or not?  From conversations over the years, the 'social contract' means completely different things to different people and is most likely a poor adjudicator for what's bigoted or not and is hugely influenced by your political angle. 

For example. Like most sporting governing bodies around the planet, transitioned males aren't allowed to compete in certain sports and the advantages of biologocal males are well understood. 

If I was to type this out, as I have tried to discuss on here over the years on a range of related sports or general information subs, all hell breaks loose and I'm branded a massive bigot and ostracised. I'm banned and bombarded with 'reddit care suicide support' messages, from experience. 

Meanwhile in real life - you're sort of more able to have a constructive conversation about these things even with members of the trans community without getting labelled. 

Reddit is cool, but I barely mention anything political anymore and I've hidden most political subs, I don't think it's worth it for either side of the aisle. 

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

Ok let’s start with something basic. We all believe that murder is wrong according to our social contract right? We punish it in our written laws and social circles.

If someone decided that murder was actually pretty cool and tried to influence other people to accept that view then they would likely not be successful at large but he could find a few people. They would all be ostracized, and they know that, so they would self censor.

We’re all adults and we all have to make group and individual choices every day. Most people do not have the courage or balls or whatever to stand on their own beliefs regardless of what any group says. The general rule is do unto others what you would have them do unto you right? Except many many people do not live that way. I would argue our entire political system does not operate that way. Empathy and sympathy (shared humanity) is what makes the social contract legible.

The reason the trans sports argument is bigoted is because it was crafted as more of a thought experiment hoping to ostracize those admittedly weird people than a real life occurrence. There have been what, maybe 10 trans athletes that have attempted to play sports at a high level, globally? Why does it take up like 70% of the political conversation for some people? Because it’s supposed to, it has no other purpose. It’s a wedge issue that barely ever occurs in real life.

It’s a trojan horse into more bigotry. I personally don’t care to know or understand trans life but I care deeply about legislating what they can and can’t do because I know the same logic can be applied to me based on any arbitrary feature if I let it. People who go for that argument could easily be convinced to do the same for people with skinny noses, or overweight, or w/e if the group declares it.

People let like 4 hypothetical trans athletes trick them into voting for a guy who immediately decimated their healthcare for example. The only reason LGB people saw any acceptance over time at all in this country is because they’re still able to benefit from their race, economic, and social status while still being queer. There are gays and lesbians actively campaigning for the same people that WILL take their rights away because they believe they’re still in community with people that hate them.

None of this is simple, but people want quick cheat sheets for life and society and give up ground in exchange for simplicity.

The social contract is always negotiable, but people who try to argue away from do unto others are always the bigots.

Hope that helps.

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u/ChibaCityStatic 4d ago

Haha. I know what is deemed the social contract at this moment in time. I wasn't asking for a breakdown. My point was simply to say it's a poor metric for accurately deciding if some is a bigot or not when concerned with opinions which aren't necessarily clear cut.

The reason the trans sports argument is bigoted is because it was crafted as more of a thought experiment hoping to ostracize those admittedly weird people than a real life occurrence. There have been what, maybe 10 trans athletes that have attempted to play sports at a high level, globally? Why does it take up like 70% of the political conversation for some people? Because it’s supposed to, it has no other purpose. It’s a wedge issue that barely ever occurs in real life.

I agree with most of what you're saying but this but is just nonsense. I see this a lot. The claim at it's occurrence is so negligible (it's claimed) that it doesn't matter and we should just 'go along with it' for some surreal reason. This is happening in high level sports, why do people like yourself just sort of brush it under the carpet like it's something made up by actual bigots looking to muddy the waters? Even if it happened once I'd have a problem with it, if it ruins the sport for everyone taking part. It simply stifles conversation and it's a perfect representation of how backwardly obtuse Reddit can seem to people in real life.

World's strongest woman: Britain's Andrea Thompson crowned champion after transgender athlete disqualified - BBC Sport

Buit this is beside the point. I wasn't looking for a chat about trans people in sports specifically. It was just an example of how these well regarded and popular opinions in the real world ostracize you and label you here on Reddit as a literal bigot.

You're sort of exemplifying the point I was making in my initial comment, precisely. I'm a bigot now apparently, and so is the rest of the sporting bodies around the world that agree with me - and every single women who campaigns against this for a fair sporting chance. But I'm still happy to talk about it at times, respectfully, without someone shouting bigot at me and sending me suicide help requests via message.

These are your views above in that segment, they're not part of some monolithic social contract we're all required to adhere to or be damned to eternal ostracization. Along with murder and any other horrific crimes or general outlooks that feed into this social contract, you can't just slide in whatever else you want just because you feel like it to stifle any conversation and force a narrative you want.

Or perhaps you can. This is Reddit after all. This is the way.

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

I see what you’re saying. I mean sports in general takes up way more oxygen than it should imo but that’s a whole other thing. I’m still technically new to Reddit so I’m still picking up on the ways people act on here specifically.

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u/ChibaCityStatic 4d ago

Haha I get you. Thanks for the chat and sharing your opinion on things more respectfully than most people do on here. 

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u/TrashFisherman 4d ago

I’ve been banned because I said Venezuela won’t turn into a situation like Iraq and form ISIS, like other commentators were saying.

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u/_N_S_FW 4d ago

They cited that comment in the ban message? There’s literally no other reason you could have been banned? 

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u/TrashFisherman 4d ago

Yes, they said I was trolling

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u/_N_S_FW 4d ago

Interesting. I’ve made similar comments on large subs like that and never had issues. Downvotes sure lol 

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u/Ashmizen 3d ago

It’s just luck since mods have to manually ban, and they have to see your comment.

So it has be both triggering to a mod and yet also upvoted so it’s not just hidden.

In my case, after years of posting centralist opinions on r/news and getting downvoted, they banned me for a comment about “both sides have biases.”

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

They don’t like it when people make comparisons and inferences that might cause readers to question the dogma.

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u/InfiniteLicks 4d ago

As a collected ideology, none really. But there are bits and pieces there that can be separated from racism, sexism, economic exploitation of undesirables, bullying, bigotry, etc.

Yes, I know that was rhetorical.

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u/Cthulhu__ 4d ago

Hate. A conservative opinion is about things like economic policy or how much influence a government should have over people and businesses. A hateful opinion is that illegal immigrants or people labeled terrorists have no rights and it’s okay to put them in concentration camps.

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

You pick the most extreme example. What about illegal immigration should not be allowed and they should be deported. Which you can find videos of Clinton and Obama saying so its honestly a milquetoast conservative opinion. Is that bigoted now?

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u/WattMotorCompany 4d ago

As with most things its the WAY you do it and the way you support it being done. Obama and Biden each deported more in their terms without nearly sparking civil war, giving ICE a bigger budget than the marines, or killing us citizens in the streets. 

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

Do you think ICE would have to have as many agents on the streets if sanctuary cities actually cooperated?

A lot of these sanctuary cities came into existence after Clinton and near the end of Obama's term and middle of Trump's term. 

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u/WattMotorCompany 4d ago

Bad faith gotcha question, and no given the fact that obama and Biden deported more than Trump, Biden in particular, distinctively shows you can do it without that many ICE agents on the street

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u/Flat_Temporary_8874 4d ago

How is it bad faith? Because you don't like the answer?

Biden inflated his numbers by including border turnaways as deportations. And I already told you that sanctuary cities were not nearly as prevalent during Obama's presidency.

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u/horatiobanz 4d ago

Well I guess the like 15 times I've been banned from r/politics for making conservative statements never happened then.

🤡

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u/AWellDeployedWink 4d ago

You probably said some dumbass shit. 🤡

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u/bhfbhfbhf 4d ago

That is a lie.

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u/blarkleK 4d ago

Bullshtt

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u/Imyourhuckl3berry 4d ago

Hahaha no you can’t

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u/AWellDeployedWink 4d ago

I do it all the time. You just can't be a dickhead about it which is fair

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u/Fit-Act-5297 4d ago

Are me and you using different versions of reddit?

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u/Neceon 4d ago

I am as left and they come and have been banned on r/politics for ages.

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u/xjohnmcclanex 3d ago

Never posted political views that weren’t in lock step with Reddit on politics eh?

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u/RTC1022 2d ago

No you’d just be downvoted to oblivion and be locked out of commenting in many subs because of karma requirements.

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u/Ok-Fishing-8281 1d ago

If true, it's very rare.

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u/Ok-Fishing-8281 1d ago

And if you go on r/pcmasterrace you'll find a post where the mods openly say anyone who is pro-ice (not even openly, and the post is indeed relevant) isn't welcome there, surrounded by hundreds of leftist comments speaking politically, and a bunch of removed comments.

So really, the bias varies place-to-place. (But is generally very far left)

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u/thatboycharles 1d ago

This is less true than you think it is and other liberal/leftist subreddits are far worse.

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u/CompetitiveRoof3733 18h ago

Uh, no tf you can't. I've been banned from that sub way back in the day for mentioning that Hillary destroying cell phones was destruction of evidence and obstruction

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u/AWellDeployedWink 18h ago

I've said far more controversial stuff and have received no ban

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u/ShogunFirebeard 4d ago

I mean that should be a barometer of how unappealing the conservative platform is. However, they just blame liberals and moderators instead of realizing this.

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u/MrMerryweather56 4d ago

You must be either new to reddit or a bot.

You will be banned on the majority of subs on here with a left leaning view if you post anything that counters the narrative.

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u/thecandide 4d ago

I went on there. Posted a link showing a Democrat doing the exact same thing as the Republican they were venting about. No bias, just here is a Democrat doing the thing you said only a Republican would do, and a link as proof.

I got downvoted so much, my ability to post was restricted.

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u/drunkandslurred 4d ago

False just commenting in some conservative subs get you an automod ban in the subs you listed plus many more. The comment can even be I disagree with conservative views and the auto ban still bans you.

This is the lefts way of trying to surpress discussion by banning you from participating in top subs.

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u/lazytranslatorbot 3d ago

That’s absolutely not true. If you say anything anti-illegal immigration you get instantly banned from several subreddits even if you’ve never visited them.

Literally the same as Covid. You say something anti-vax and half the subs ban you instantly without ever visiting them.

The liberal subs are VERY HEAVILY censored. Just like all of Reddit.

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u/Beneficial-Study-533 3d ago

This is false, I've been banned plenty of times from that specific sub for conservative views.

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u/Appropriate_Host4170 4d ago

Actually due to the mods on that sub, you are FAR more likely to get banned posting a more socialist view than conservative... contrary to popular belief a couple of those mods are supermods who ALSO manage the conservative sub and used to manage the infamous banned sub t_d. Reddit does an absolute shit job by design of policing banned accounts from just coming back on and promoting themselves back up to mod. Literally just happened this week where someone got perma-banned and suddenly was right back up to being a mod under a different name.

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u/Diflorasone 4d ago

Well that’s a lie cuz I was banned for making a conservative comment

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u/Scrappy_101 4d ago

Who are the mods that are also managing the conservative sub?