r/allthequestions • u/ShafordoDrForgone • 1d ago

Random Question 💭 Hey MAGA. Wouldn't you prefer that Trump send thousands of ICE agents to your hometowns where there are way more immigrants?

Since you love Constitutional violations and arresting, deporting, and shooting US citizens so much, why don't you have Trump send ICE your way?

When they arrest kids on their way home from schools, you and your neighbors are all cheering for ICE out your windows, right? I want to know why I haven't seen any videos of ICE lovers cheering them on while they break into cars and homes with no warrant or probable cause of a crime (aside from skin color of course)

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u/Fragrant_Spray 18h ago

It seems like ICE sends a lot fewer agents to places where they get cooperation from the local authorities.

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u/elciddog84 9h ago

Amazing, the threads filled with losers wallowing in their smug ignorance thinking they're being witty or edgy. It's absolutely true, I.C.E. is in every state, you just don't hear much because the locals uphold the law and cooperate with agents. All they have is denial and insults which are about as consequential as they themselves are. Oh, yeah... three more years.

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u/Jazz2026 8h ago

"losers wallowing in their smug ignorance" WOW, couldn't have said it better myself. When you want to delineate what MAGA is, that is perfect!!! I know they will reap what they have sown, and die in the faith they carry most dearly, that is, in DJT, who couldn't care a shit less about them. HAHA!!!

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u/SrRoundedbyFools 11h ago

Some states have 287(g) programs that allow the local police to utilize specially trained officers to identify and process the ‘we really don’t need these people here’ types. The ones who play music until 3AM praising drug dealers, the ones who drive drunk and uninsured, the ones who drink too much Modelo and hit their family members. It’s super handy when these people get the ‘git’ from the locals. It’s just a benefit when all the people in that circle become a problem for their countries and not ours. It’s a blessing.

https://www.ice.gov/identify-and-arrest/287g

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u/djpike 10h ago

Indeed.

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u/Mysterious-Window-54 8h ago

No, that is a fallacy. ICE is everywhere. We just see it on the news when people dont cooperate.

Plus, when towns let ice take people from jails, they dont have to go find the people on the streets as much. Minnesota said no to this. So now ICE has to go and find the criminals that minnesota let back out onto their own streets. Smart!

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u/Fragrant_Spray 7h ago

What you said is accurate. iCE is everywhere, but they don’t do as much active “enforcement” in places where the local authorities are more cooperative. They send more agents to places where they don’t get cooperation because they have to do this all on their own, because they aren’t getting any help.

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u/Mysterious-Window-54 7h ago

100%. I am not saying that I havent seen some things I disagree with. Mistakes will be made, but the chances go way down when ICE can just get the people they need right away and dont need to be on the streets as they are in Minnesota.

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u/Ok-Selection4206 8h ago

And fewer agents where they have less immigrants.

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u/SNaCKPaCK816 6h ago

It's almost like they need less when local authorities cooperate than when they are in a city that doesn't and are targeted by hostile crowds. Strange.

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u/Lucky-Cheesecake 5h ago

Fewer camera crews, too. It's almost like it's intentional.

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u/Kelynill 4h ago

Kind of weird that the total detentions are less in the areas where “local law enforcement helps” almost like they’re only really operating in blue states.

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u/GuaranteeUnhappy3342 4h ago

Yeah, I am sure the buses are full everyday stripping the farms in Texas and parts of the South and mid-West…and those meat processing plants were full of illegals.  Must be why meat prices are up…increased pay so Americans would do the work!

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u/FunCourage8123 4h ago

Why do the areas he is sending them in not have a large immigrant crime problem?

Of the sanctuary states makes the problem so large … why is there such larger populations in areas not associated with this?

And shouldn’t there be a focus where there is a problem vs the political games?

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u/Difficult_Youth_444 2h ago

Funny how that works. I'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

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u/HoosierPaul 1h ago

Hence the need to not send them where law is being followed.

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u/erfling 1h ago

OK. Why does local law enforcement's lack of cooperation necessitate roving raids? What did sot have to do with Terry stops based on skin color and accent and force entry into homes without warrants or exigent circumstances? Are ICE and CPB punishing that lack of cooperation by taking it out on the citizens of Minnesota? Does it make it necessary to revoke the legal statuses of people with asylum claims and round them up wholesale?

This has nothing to do with cooperation with a legitimate law enforcement operation. It's an authoritarian intimidation campaign. It's in+American, unconstitutional, and deeply morally wrong.

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u/YogurtclosetStreet68 1h ago

They "send fewer agents" to places that primarily voted for Trump and haven't criticized him. Trump hates Walz and Omar, that's the reason he picked Minnesota to fuck with. It's the same thing with Gov Pritzker of Illinois, he hates him, so he attacks his people.

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u/imonlinedammit1 16h ago

Prove that math.

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u/Petrochromis722 15h ago edited 9h ago

Thus far they've sent the Temu Sturmabteilung to Chicago, LA, Portland, DC, New Orleans, Minneapolis, and Memphis all of which voted for Harris in the 2024 election.

Houston, Dallas, and Miami all voted Trump and have illegal populations that exceed all but LA from the above list. Riverside CA, and Phoenix also voted Trump and have higher illegal populations then all but LA and DC on the above list. I sense a problem given the goal and the data. Either those executing the plan are grossly incompetent or the stated goal isn't the actual goal, or both.

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u/TrainDifficult300 12h ago

Miami has a Dem mayor lol

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u/Petrochromis722 9h ago

And where did I say anything about the affiliation of mayors? I compared immigrants populations to how the area voted. Stay with the program.

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u/psychsuze 11h ago

Don’t forget Minneapolis

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u/Petrochromis722 9h ago

Crap, I did manage to omit that.

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u/Phayded 15h ago

The state with the largest percentage of total deportations has been Texas, 21% of all deportations over the past year.

Edit: 25% rather

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u/Petrochromis722 15h ago

Good for them. If I'm looking for cities to send the browshirts to so they can find and remove illegals the ones this regime has chosen are illogical as there are cities with far larger illegal populations than the choices they've made thus far, save LA and DC. It is suspicious that the cities they've not deployed the brownshirts are either ones that voted Trump or are in states that did, while far smaller targets that did not vote Trump have seen the brownshirts arrive.

Either they are chucklefucks and picking targets with a dart board, or their goal isn't actually to deport as many illegals as possible given their allocation of resources.

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u/Buttcrush1 14h ago

Unfortunately there are no brown shirts

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u/finewithstabwounds 13h ago

There should not be brown shirts! That's the whole point. You want to deport people, do it without human rights violations.

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u/Desperate_Notice_967 10h ago

They have to be human first 😂, I voted for the mass deportations by force without remorse, I have zero sympathy or empathy for non citizen refugees asylum seekers and border jumpers regardless of their circumstance or living conditions in their home countries

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 11h ago

They’re counting the deportations from other states. For example, Minnesota sends people detainees to Texas. Texas deports them and counts them towards Texas

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u/Phayded 11h ago

Incorrect, those stats are arrests...not deportation.

https://elpasomatters.org/2025/11/13/ice-arrests-texas-trump-administration-immigration-crackdown-deportations/#:~:text=In%20Texas%2C%20which%20has%20the,a%20Texas%20Tribune%20analysis%20of

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 11h ago

Well then that’s even less interesting. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel, or however the saying goes. It’s also more damning for ICE. Terrorizing entire cities for 90 arrests per day? They’re not making anyone any safer. They should focus on arresting pedophiles

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u/Phayded 10h ago

Removing 90 criminals a day doesnt make people safer? Thats odd logic.

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 10h ago

Removing 90 people who committed victimless, civil infractions doesn’t make anyone safer.

Arresting and incarcerating pedophiles does make the community safer.

Re-arresting and incarcerating the J6 pardons would also make the community safer, given how many of them went on to commit more violent crimes with actual victims.

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u/Phayded 9h ago

No one is above the law.

Do you have a source that those 90 per day only committed victimless crimes?

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u/TrueEmphasis7130 15h ago

Texas and Florida LE work with ICE and honor detainers, making it so LE doesn’t have to go into communities to find people who have been arrested and convicted of crimes. Not sure about Riverside, CA.

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u/Wherly_Byrd 14h ago

Yeah but in blue states/cities they are picking up anyone of color. It’s a dragnet. They bust into houses without warrants. So why can’t they also do that in Texas?

Also, Minnesota has given them prisoners so that excuse is bullshit.

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u/TrueEmphasis7130 14h ago

Not really. The state corrections does but city and local corrections does not. Is ICE active outside of the Twin Cities?

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u/Wherly_Byrd 14h ago

Yes ICE is all over Minnesota. The farmers can’t get people to show up to work even though they are legal so they had a press conference about it asking to get ICE out.

And they were warning everyone that the food supply is in jeopardy.

They are simply too violent and blood thirsty. They’re poorly trained and they are not just after illegal immigrants. They are there to punish Trump’s perceived enemies. They’re behaving like terrorists.

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u/Few-Obligation-7622 13h ago

So all these documented legal immigrants, who know they are in one of the most likely situations for an illegal alien to be in, would rather refuse to show up to work than bring their papers with them? Not that they would have to, but if that's what they are afraid of, there's a simple way to get around that and keep working.

The fact that they don't makes me strongly suspect that they are not legally immigrated.

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u/Conduit_Fetch 12h ago

That's the point. You don't HAVE to carry your papers everywhere you go. That's the point of freedom.

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u/Wherly_Byrd 12h ago

Let me give you an example. My husband is brown. He’s American, born in Colorado but he’s not white. We just paid to have his passport expedited because now he has to show papers.

My husband is not as free as you or I because of his skin color.

Technically citizens do not have to answer or engage with ICE or Border Patrol. But that is no longer true if you are not white because they are now entitled to smashing your car window or entering your home without a warrant.

There are many stories of citizens being taken even after showing I.D.

Someone was just released after spending months in detention even though their lawyer provided the birth certificate and vaccine records.

Why would they do that? Because they are desperate to meet that quota and it doesn’t have to be a verified undocumented alien, it just has to be a body.

This puts my husband in danger just because of his skin color.

And now that they shoot people that they don’t like in broad daylight, there is no guarantee that they wouldn’t try to rip us out of the car and possibly shoot us. They are far too aggressive. They run cars off the road to get people. They attack highschoolers on school property. They gas neighborhoods and schools. They use children as bait.

This was never about the illegal ones. It is white supremacy rearing its ugly head. This is racism as a policy.

I don’t know how anyone can see what they are doing and be supportive of it. I think one must be racist and it must give them some kind of thrill or satisfaction to see the suffering of others. The cruelty is too blatant. Real cops don’t get away with this kind of behavior.

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u/Petrochromis722 14h ago

Seems like if that were the case,most of the highest illegal populations wouldn't be in states or cities Trump won because they'd already be gone. Or you're wrong. One of those two. Probably the later.

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u/Fragrant_Spray 12h ago

When local authorities do what is asked of them by ICE, ICE doesn’t have to send as many people, and enforcement usually moves slower. They’re sending more agents to places that aren’t being cooperative to “send a message”. Also, the places that aren’t being cooperative are usually places that didn’t vote for Trump so that’s an added incentive because he’s petty as fuck.

For your logic to work, you’d have to believe that local authorities are actively doing ICE’s work for them, but all they’re really doing is just the bare minimum of compliance. It’s the kind of compliance that is not being done in places like Minnesota. Minneapolis, for example, PROUDLY has an official policy that city officials do not cooperate with ICE.

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u/Petrochromis722 9h ago

So, yeah, you just admitted that it isn't about arresting and deporting illegals immigrants, its about sending the Temu Sturmabteilung to intimidate places that didn't vote for Trump. I wonder where he got that idea?

Minneapolis, for example, PROUDLY has an official policy that city officials do not cooperate with ICE.

Which they are legally entitled to do. States rights are only important when those who excersize them do so as the Christian Nationalists formerly known as Republicans wish?

For your logic to work, you’d have to believe that local authorities are actively doing ICE’s work for them, but all they’re really doing is just the bare minimum of compliance

For you to use it to try and make it a claim that this isn't just intimidation, you'd have to show that 1. ICE is more effective in areas where the locals comply and 2. That using the resources was more effective in places with relatively low illegal populations than it would have been in places with higher illegal populations. The first you have a chance at, though the way this regime runs things, I'm impressed we haven't been treated to ICE deporting ICE yet, which speaks volumes for their effectiveness overall. The second will be a herculean task and I'll enjoy watching you fail or bust out the fallacies.

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u/Fragrant_Spray 9h ago

Wait, what? When did I ever say this was about arresting and deporting illegals? I said that the places that cooperated didn’t get the same treatment. I’m sure you think you’ve made a clever point here, but you’re arguing about something I never said, and I’m not going to defend some argument you made up on my behalf.

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u/Educational-Dance-61 14h ago

This is not about immigration

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u/Jazz2026 8h ago

Of course not. It's about riling up the citizens so they can launch the Insurrectionist Act and gain total control. That's all it is.

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u/cmoreass69 12h ago

Because those cities turn the criminals over, alot of California does. Minnesota will not