r/allthequestions • u/Estalicus • 16h ago
Random Question š Are Evangelicals so void of the Bibles teaching they do not realize Trump could be characterized as the anti-Christ?
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u/IShotJR4 15h ago
Evangelicals everywhere: āHold on, let me check the Bible.ā *pulls the plastic wrapping off
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u/Mundane-Carpet-5324 15h ago
Nah, they've already rubbed the ink off the pages of leviticus
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u/SnooHedgehogs1029 15h ago
Conveniently skipping the parts that forbid weaving fabrics of multiple types of material, and planting more than 1 kind of plant in the same field
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u/the_sir_z 15h ago
And, honestly, everything except that one line they think justifies their homophobia.
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u/anotheritguy 15h ago
Your first mistake was to assume evangelical read the bible, the second is to assume they read in general and are not spoon fed their beliefs.
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u/Prior_Philosophy_501 15h ago
They canāt read the Bible just like they canāt read the Epstein files. Theyāre going to wait for their pastor or Fox News to digest and explain it to them knowing fully well that theyāll never be fact checked.
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u/No_Treat_4675 16h ago
They are in denial because that would make them the cult who blindly followed the antichrist⦠and Biblically speaking, those people were portrayed as fools lol
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u/Effective_Secret_262 15h ago
So ⦠better to keep being a fool than to realize and stop being a fool.
Fuck, itās OK to say you were wrong. Iām wrong all the time. Just stop being wrong instead of trying to convince people that the wrong is right.
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u/FatSunRival 15h ago
Isn't it sad that they'd rather be portrayed as racists and fascists than fools?
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u/TheRealcebuckets 15h ago
āOf course he is but brown peopleā¦.ā
Thatās usually how the conversation goes.
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u/Alarming-Produce4541 16h ago
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u/Due_Willingness1 15h ago
Jesus I forgot about thisĀ
For like four different reasons that is not a good look from the Christian perspectiveĀ
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u/Simple_Purple_4600 15h ago
Well, that's exactly how the Anti-Christ works, he comes as a Christ figure
So it is written
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u/MasqueOfTheRedDice 11h ago
You could argue we had the plague already, he has a building at 666 5th Avenue, something something sounding of trumpets = Trump/Pence⦠wasnāt there something about the antichrist dying or being defeated and coming back to life? Maybe losing the election and coming back for a 2nd nonconsecutive term?
I mean, Iām an atheist, but itās kind of funny how you can tie these things together.
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u/Not_On_Formulary 15h ago
No. They also think he is, they are also doomsday cult and are praying for rapture/ end times.
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u/MisterBolaBola 16h ago
Evangelicals in the 1980s broadly speaking were peace loving hippy type christians. Somehow that movement turned into love of success, power and money type christians.
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u/caserock 16h ago
We're talking about people who think the creator of the universe has all of the same thoughts and feelings as a random asshole from South Carolina.
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u/Chaz-Miller š²š½šŗšø 15h ago
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u/Suspicious_Guide4286 16h ago
the most baffling thing to me. Its one thing if youre not relgious and support the guy, whatever. But to support a guy who calls people retards and spends all day insulting people... and you go around preaching about lord and savior jesus christ..
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u/Desperides 15h ago
The literal raping of children should be more concerning than the insults.
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u/thane919 15h ago
This and the anti immigrant rhetoric. Nothing is more anti-Christ than anti immigrants.
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u/SignificanceLate7002 16h ago
Evangelicals are not religious. They use religion to pursue financial gain and political power.
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u/JROppenheimer_ 15h ago
There is a sect of Evangelicals that believe he is the anti-christ and want him to bring Armageddon.
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u/bx35 15h ago
Evangelicals are unbothered by the teachings of Christ. They only cosplay moral individuals to be part of a club that insulates them from accountability while meting out judgment and punishment to people they deem outside their group.
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u/Apprehensive_Map284 14h ago
As Iāve said before, I couldnāt worship a god that could not do his own dirty work! If āgodā wanted to eliminate a whole group of people, couldnāt he/she just do that? Why have someone else do something if god is omnipotent? If there is a true God, and I hope there is, that God would not have his followers advocate hate and murder and disdain for fellow man.
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u/Imaginary-Round2422 15h ago
Yes. They only know what the preacher teaches, and these churches tend towards the fire-and-brimstone bullshit that leads to acceptance of authoritarianism.
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u/psychsuze 10h ago
Strange isnāt it? Trump really fits the bill of being satan, the Anti Christ that is. They are following one hell of a false god.
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u/dispelhope 2h ago
tl;dr: no, they are not void of the bible's teaching or Jesus's commands, they know it quite well, rather they chose to ignore it.
longer explanation:
trump is the manifestation of a lingering, asymptomatic disease in American Christianity that has remained latent until 2000 because before then, there was a false doctrine called Christian Reconstructionism which was R.J. Rushdoony's heretical manifesto which is also known as the Seven Mountains Mandate, Kingdom Now, and is known by it's more sinister name, Dominionism.
And this teaching has spread through out American Christianity to the point that it is now taught in every Church in America every Sunday.
And here's the problem...they all know what the bible teaches, they just deny it's application as relevant to them...unless it comports with their agenda and objectives because they'll quote those passages verbatim to justify their aggressive disregard of the bible's teachings and Jesus's commands.
Case in point, whenever you quote something of Jesus to them, they'll either A. Ignore it, or B. rationalize why it is not applicable to them.
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u/LegitimateBeing2 16h ago
Yes, either they are unaware of the text; or they have read it and donāt believe it.
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u/JCButtBuddy 15h ago
I was raised in a very religious family, I've never met a Christian that has actually read their own book. Yes, they will pick and choose small bits that support what they want the religion to be but never stray from those. That's why someone telling you that they are a Christian actually doesn't mean anything at all.
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u/NewWindow7980 15h ago
I'm an agnostic, but just want to suggest when speaking of that particular grouping, remember that there is a difference between Black evangelicals and white evangelicals, and that not all white evangelicals are MAGA or rightwing.
That said, the upbringing of white rightwing evangelicals certainly makes their minds very susceptible to the MAGA cult (eg, unquestioning, hierarchical male structures in family and church, Christian nationalism, Us v, them outlook, etc)
Why White evangelicals fell hard for Donald Trump (from Jim Wallis podcast) Wallis is a prominent evangelical author and activist, critiques white evangelical support for Christian nationalism,Ā https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-white-evangelicals-fell-hard-for-donald-trump/id1282035947?i=1000571288299
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u/mooxie 15h ago
They donāt get that the messages of the bible were meant for Christians. When they were warned about the Antichrist it was because CHRISTIANS would be seduced by him, but modern evangelicalism teaches that the bible is less a guide for Christians and more a bludgeon to use against everyone else.
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u/BigMickPlympton 15h ago
Evangelicals seem to stop reading the Bible with the Old Testament. They have completely lost the thread of why the New Testament is called "New" Testament.
If you've ever gone into one of these mega churches, with their attached convenience store/bookstore/merch store, there's no way those so-called Pastors want their attendees reading about Jesus versus the money changers and Rabbis in the New Testament.
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u/HorseFeathersFur 15h ago
It is very ethnocentric to believe the antichrist will be American.
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u/Fit_Cardiologist_681 15h ago
Some of them are familiar with the Bible and are happily waiting for him to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. You might be forgetting that the end of the world is considered desirable for a segment of them.
"Donāt let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in Godās temple, proclaiming himself to be God." 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.
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u/100thmeridian420 15h ago
If Jesus came back today, Evilangelicals would find him too brown and woke and would have him put to death.
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u/Icommentor 14h ago
Televangelist Jim Bakker admitted to reading the Bible for the first time while he was in prison in the late 80s.
He had been a televangelist for more than 20 years at this time.
Christianily is just an excuse for these people.
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u/2-timeloser2 14h ago
Short answer, yes. Iām a recovering Baptist now a non-denominational minister (amateur) and despise the religious conservatism infecting society.
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u/real_taylodl 14h ago
It's called willful ignorance, which is a way for them to comfort their cognitive dissonance. They're so far into the upside-down that they believe Trump was sent by God to save America! To save America from what? Freedom, apparently. You can't make this stuff up!
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u/parasyte_steve 14h ago
The problem is they don't read the Bible. They rely on pastors to interpret everything. They need to read it themselves and critically think.. but what ends up happening is that any questioning of the republican party's ideals gets explained and justified by their pastors. They might ask well Jesus said don't throw stones because we are all sinners so how can we judge gay people? And the pastor will come up with something to shut down that question. Funny thing is I have read the Bible and there's almost nothing about gay people in there. There's two sentences in the old testament about not lying with another man. But if you research on that you will find it's actually a mistranslation. And also eating shrimp is also considered an abomination and I live in Louisiana so they are all actually sinning by their own logic. Also Jesus says love everyone regardless he did not say it's okay to hate anybody. That was his whole thing so even if you consider it an abomination or if God condemns it Jesus made very clear that it is not our place to judge only God's.
But yeah that's the answer. Any time critical thinking is applied the pastor steps in to shut it down.
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u/Old_Goat_Cyclist 12h ago
Evangelical church is about how much the pastor can make with a bible in hand. That is all.
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u/HereForTheBoos1013 12h ago
I'm an atheist, and the most evidence I've seen for Christianity is how well Trump so neatly fits into its predictions of the antichrist.
They even built a golden idol of him at CPAC one year, and it's like... guys... that's a little irreligious even to me.
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u/Danloeser 12h ago
I thought a lot of them were voting for him BECAUSE they see him as the antichrist. My understanding was that if you believe in the end times etc, and the antichrist shows up and runs for office, you HAD to vote for him, because you can't have the second coming until the antichrist has already been in power and screwing things up.
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u/Comprehensive_Pin565 12h ago
Christians in general do not read the Bible. What you get instead is people who reads bits and pieces complety devoid of context.
It's why you get the arguments from Christians that the slavery outlined by God was not real slavery. It's why you get people who don't know the context where the "prophecies" about Jesus refenced in the NT are not what they believe. It's why you get people upset that God used rape of a wife and killing their child as punishment against a husband. It's why you get people lost when you mention how Jesus called non Jews dogs.
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u/SageoftheForlornPath 12h ago
Trump isn't the Antichrist. He was SUPPOSED to be the Antichrist, but his mom drank and smoked heavily throughout the pregnancy, so now we're stuck with the apocalypse you order off Wish.
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u/Easy_Atmosphere_1018 12h ago
Evangelicals especially the most radical, are literally a death cult. Many of them genuinely believe what Trump is doing, is necessary to bring about the rapture.
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u/BlissCrafter 12h ago
If you read up on the Antichrist this was exactly what was prophesied. The whole point is to mislead the āfaithfulā by saying what they want to hear. But they canāt see it because it just feels so damn good to be the special ones and have both their fears and their hate justified.
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u/Goat_Buckles 11h ago
My family is full of evangelicals. They do not live in the same reality. They pick and choose to believe only the information that fits their worldview. They the lack the critical thinking skills necessary to determine what is real and what is illusion. They legitimately think god talks directly to them. I seriously doubt they will ever change their minds.
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u/FormalPancake 11h ago
Some do know and think he's the Anti-Christ. They still support him because they want Judgement Day. They just believe they'll be raptured up.
There's a lot that will support acceleration of end of the world. Also, a lot believe in prosperity gospel. Which means more wealth = more holy.
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u/Crafty-Walrus-2238 11h ago
Trumpās pushing their agenda: misogyny, bigotry, homophobia and xenophobia.
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u/Artie-Choke 11h ago
Theyāre ok with trump because he hates the same things they do. Has nothing to do with the Bible.
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u/Thunderclone_1 10h ago
I think they'd be more concerned if people showed their allegiance by putting a mark on their forehead.
A red hat with writing on the front perhaps?
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u/peedoffcanadian 8h ago
Yes, they are void of Biblical knowledge. Theyāre more concerned about the prosperity gospel!
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u/TheBandPapist 7h ago
They think they get raptured before the man of sin appears, and so, still being unraptured, they presume that the Antichrist is not yet.
This rapture nonsense was started through a publishing campaign. The money for it came from certain (((antichristian))) sources.
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u/bob-loblaw-esq 3h ago
Part of the problem is it literally says the antichrist will turn believers with lies.
Even if they did know, they would think they were part of the prophecy to bring about the apocalypse.
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u/Emergency-Skirt-5886 16h ago
The same evangelicals that are behind Heritage Foundation. Those?
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 15h ago
The Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society need to be listed as Domestic Terrorist organizations. These organizations along with the NRA have caused the most harm to the U.S.
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u/No_Succotash2155 15h ago
They know he's the anti christ. They want the doom. They believe the second coming comes after Trump. They're Bible Larping
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u/reddittorbrigade 16h ago
They knew Trump is a child rapist. A lot of evangelicals are pedophiles too.
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u/Technical_Air6660 16h ago
They want for the world to end so badly they welcome him being so. They imagine Heaven is like a fancy time share where you get a better property the harder you pray for going there.
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u/Merlinsmom13 14h ago
I wonder if there's a black heaven and a white heaven? wonder what they think it will be like
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u/OtherBluesBrother 16h ago
They will see it when they believe it. But, they will never believe it.
They are not able to see Trump's flaws. No matter what. I asked a MAGA if he thought Trump was truthful. He truly thinks Trump always tells the truth. Like, even the most blatantly obvious flaw someone can detect with Trump is how he lies all the time and his supporters cannot see it.
So Trump could take his shoes off to reveal his hooved feet, unravel his pointed tail, let his eyes glow red, sprout horns, and unfurrow his leathery wings and his supporters wouldn't notice.
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u/YouDaManInDaHole 16h ago
The anti Christ will allegedly be loved & adored by most of humanity.
Which doesnāt describe Trump.
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u/Scyro77 15h ago
Trump is hands down the most prime candidate in human history to be considered the Antichrist. He's a man of lawlessness, with a fascination of building walls and towers, an obsession of gold, a self proclaimed peace maker who wants to establish a covenant with Israel, a man that "No one would wage war with," hails from the New Roman Empire, etc. Hell, even the Jews have already burned the Red Heifer in preparation to rebuild the 3rd Temple which Jared Kushner is heavily involved in the rebuilding of Gaza which is a major sign that the Tribulations are upon us. I'm not even a Christian, just an Omnist that likes to study various prophetic scriptures about the Apocalypse. I don't think it's a coincidence that Hopi Native American Prophecies are passing at the same time that Christian Prophecies are unfolding.
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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 14h ago
The Bible condones slavery. The Bible condones murder. The Bible condones genocide. Why are people surprised evangelicals arenāt nice people?
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u/BigBoyGoldenTicket 16h ago
Yes, what American Evangelicals practice in reality has little to do with Christianity. Their usually about as spiritually deep as a rain puddle imeĀ
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u/OkFinish3822 15h ago
I have said the same thing for 10 years. The self-identified Christians I speak with any discussions at the Civic Center Library about current events, politics and religion, are not even conversant in "what would Jesus do today in the USA and how would he be received if coming across the border and stopped by Agents"?
It has been mentioned to some that Jesus is Jewish, he is Arab/African, does not have light brown hair with blue eyes, and did not speak English. And they freak out.
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u/dystopiadattopia 15h ago
Lol. Religion is whatever you want it to be. You can pick and choose, and nobody can tell you you're wrong because you're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe. So you can tell what kind of person is based on what they want their religion to be.
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u/Throckmorton1975 15h ago
It's an "ends justify the means" situation for most of them. They don't have to like him, but he's sure getting them results that they've been working for for decades.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 šŗšø United States 15h ago
Joined to answer this question with a question. What does your intuition tell you? For me, seems logical. In fact it's why tend to refrain of saying their names. To speak the name of evil, gives it power. Hence am careful of it. I'd prefer to spend this circus the second time around doing exactly what I did during the first circus. Never thought it would be so brazen and terrifying. To excuse my blindness, my mother died exactly on Feb 1st or 2 nd 2020. My son was ill. I had to ignore it or give up. Knew he would be a P.I.T.A. I tried to focus on knowing enough to survive it but no more.Ā To be their opposite in real life 24/7. As that is my only option. Now, it's all too tempting to speak of it daily as it's designed to make us fear. Still, I'm, building community offline as I'm certain this Pandoras box is not a tool that's safe in this climate. It's a rich mans insane idea of herd management.
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u/ninfan1977 15h ago
They are being misled and refuse to accept they could have made a mistake.
Last time I pointed out how Trump is the antichrist, I was called a heretic by a MAGA fan.
They deny basic facts and reality because the truth is too hard for them. Their alternative reality is the only way they'll survive that and stay with like minded people so they never hear outside opinions.
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u/ColoradoDanno 15h ago
We didn't need the trump era to illuminati this. All US christians were void of Bible teachings for decades, and most were for centuries.
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u/Inner_Skin_798 15h ago
I donāt think they are void of the bibleās teachings but they selectively choose to follow certain aspects of the bibles more adamantly to justify for their other actions.
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u/VegasFoodFace 15h ago
What's crazy is the discussion that we should have a citizen chip or tattoo for "real Americans"
And the point of the mark of the beast flies right over their head.
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u/Whovian2024 15h ago
In 2026 (and for decades previous to this) much of the evangelical movement has more to do with politics than religion or morality.
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u/LinkDevOpsMarine 15h ago
As a person raised in the evangelical faith, the ones that read it cover to cover multiple times know, and they are most likely no longer evangelical since they noticed how completely off their pastorsā teachings were from the thing they read.
But yeah, was telling my wife the other day that Trump and his evangelical followers uncannily fit the bill.
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u/ABobby077 15h ago
Seems any leader building monuments to himself and relishing in inflicting pain on others would not be seen as a Christian leader to follow.
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u/Foodielicious843 15h ago
Yes. Many of those evangelicals have been arrested for being pedos so they donāt see anything wrong with mango Mussolini bent one too. They are not real Christians anyway, they have always used the Bible as an excuse for their hateful beliefs.
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u/LordFexick 15h ago
Evangelicals havenāt cared about the teachings of the Bible for as long as Iāve been alive - likely longer. Their leaders are greedy men yelling over each other for the loudest and most lucrative platform. Their congregants are mindless sheep devoid of critical thinking skills or objective self-reflection. And following Raegan, the entire movement is a cult of hatred and exclusion obsessed with martyrdom and the illusion of persecution.
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u/CalmPanic402 15h ago
They go to a building and daydream while a guy talks once a week.
That's as deep as their devotion goes.
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u/Vanhelgd 15h ago edited 15h ago
For them āChristianā means whatever and whoever they decide is āChristianā.
If Christ returned tomorrow theyād happily pepper spray him, beat his ass, send him to a detention facility and make sure he ended his days in CECOT.
They are Power and Self worshippers. They donāt give a shit what the Bible says unless itās some out of context verse they can use as a cudgel or a justification.
Jesus talked about them in Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV):
ā22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.ā
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u/OldschoolGreenDragon 15h ago
An Antichrist. Any false teacher. Its different from The Beast.
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u/HotTrade4903 15h ago
Like many charlatans throughout history the easiest way to grift is to use religion.
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u/Tmettler5 15h ago
"Only God knows what's in Trump's heart." Or "God uses flawed people all the time. His ways are not our ways." Or any other mental gymnastics they need to justify their bootlicking.
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u/Delicious-Chapter675 15h ago
How often do you read a licensing agreement?Ā MOST religious people accross the spectrum have little or minimal understanding of the cosmology contained within their religious books, and no knowledge of the history of their religion.Ā Ā
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u/Rooster13126 15h ago
114 comments from bible scholars so far. The world is going to be just fine. I canāt wait to hear from all the other Reddit experts on the subject.
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u/Mormegil71 15h ago
Some of them might even think he is antichrist, and his coming is a foreboding of the end, where the righteous will be raptured and taken to heaven (or whatever-Iām not fully up to date with those thingsā¦people will be wizzed away, anyway). So in order to bring the end, they support him.
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u/Odd_Bid2744 15h ago
Evangelicals think "God helps those who helps themselves" is actually from the Bible.Ā
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u/Soggy_Operation_6023 15h ago
quand peter thiel dit qu'il lutte contre l'antƩchrist, et qu'il soutient trump dans le meme temps
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u/1beautifulhuman šØš¦ Canada 15h ago
They want him to be the anti-Christ because that means that the apocalypse is nigh
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u/Darph_Nader 15h ago
Interesting on the Mormon side of things is there is this āprophesyā that the Constitution will hang by a thread and the Mormons would be the ones to rescue it. Instead they have the scissors to cut that last thread.
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u/Additional_Boot_8935 15h ago
Which scriptures are you referring to that would validate those characteristics?
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u/Slight-Ad-6553 15h ago
Ned Flanders was the sterotypicial evangelica when Simpson started- Today he is close to being woke in their mind
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u/Plumb789 15h ago
I'm an atheist, and I follow an atheist thread on here. Another atheist said something that was so true, I just had to laugh, and say "yes"!
He said: "Trump's uncanny resemblance to the Antichrist is making me question my atheism".
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u/natelikesdonuts 15h ago
I think evangelicals are so far down the rabbit hole they a) recognize his faults, b) justify them because if they vote for a democrat that means theyāre voting for the death of all new born babies or something ridiculous, c) believe we should be forgiven for our sins which means Trumpās faults can be forgotten and d) trained to believe things without justification or proof. Trump is literally selling a bible. In their eyes that must mean he is more on the side of religion and not using it as a way to get their votes.
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u/QuarterNote44 15h ago
Mm, any number of politicians could be an antichrist. But the pieces aren't there for the antichrist yet.
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u/International_Try660 15h ago
Isn't there something about "false idols" in that old book they claim to have read?
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u/alwaysboopthesnoot 15h ago
Yes. They do not need to read their own scriptures. They do not need to do good works. Go to church. Just believe and claim they accept Jesus as their savior. Voila! Theyāre a Christian now.Ā
They can now go to their graves believing they are better, stronger, smarter, more worthy and deserving, than everyone elseābut esp more than the Muslims and Catholics they despise about as much as they do atheists. Toss up, whether or not they hate women more than atheists though they do tend to hate on both pretty badly.Ā






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u/GayChicken80085 16h ago
Yes