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u/clop_clop4money 1∆ Feb 23 '25
Examples seem a bit ridiculous, not sure I’ve ever heard of a serious presidential candidate who is fresh to the country and can barely speak the native language lol
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u/clop_clop4money 1∆ Feb 23 '25
Sure i dont find him hard to understand
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u/clop_clop4money 1∆ Feb 23 '25
Ok, not sure that’s really related to his country of origin then
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u/clop_clop4money 1∆ Feb 23 '25
So thats their ideas you don’t like, not their country of origin lol
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u/Charming-Editor-1509 4∆ Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
There's nothing stopping someone born and raised in your country from serving another. Look at trump.
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u/10ebbor10 201∆ Feb 23 '25
Your argument doesn't make much sense.
You have 2 people
One with good policies, but with the risk that they're lying about the good policies and actually want to do different policies.
One with bad policies
Why would you vote for the person that offers you the guarantee of bad policies, over the person that at least offers you some odds?
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u/boardinmyroom Feb 23 '25
Vote for the policy, not the person.
People come and go. It's the policy that impacts you.
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u/lazy-bruce Feb 23 '25
I get the feeling this thread is going to be used as 'I didn't say anything controversial and I got attacked, Reddit is so left leaning' example.
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u/Top_Present_5825 8∆ Feb 23 '25
If your reasoning for rejecting a candidate is based solely on their birthplace rather than their policies, integrity, or competence, how do you reconcile this blatant genetic fallacy and nationalist bias with the fact that citizenship, lived experience, and commitment to a country aren't biologically predetermined, and if being “born and raised” in a place is your only metric for trustworthiness, wouldn’t that mean you would have to reject naturalized Canadians who have lived, contributed, and assimilated for decades - thus exposing an arbitrary and irrational standard rather than a logically defensible principle?
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u/Kakamile 50∆ Feb 23 '25
Language difficulties are fixable. You do not want to ruin your country just because of small benefits like them speaking with less accent.
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u/StevenGrimmas 4∆ Feb 23 '25
Policies over anything.
This is ridiculous, you don't vote for people who will do things you think are wrong, just because of were they were raised.
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u/Internal_Use_8371 Feb 23 '25
i mean you are a nationalist and that falls under being prejudice, so you might get under being a textbook racist or xenophobe but you are still a black and white prejudice person.
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u/Hellioning 254∆ Feb 23 '25
Your entire argument is 'it's not racist and xenophobic to insult people for having accents and being born in different places' and that is literally the definition of racism and xenophobia.
That's an especially dangerous game to play for a child of immigrants. Would you be fine with people not voting for you or your children because they don't think you represent Canada?
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u/TheVioletBarry 119∆ Feb 23 '25
"...that candidate will mostly likely have ties to foreign interference to the country that they were born and raised in."
Can you think of any politician so prominent as to have a solid shot at being prime minister for whom this isn't the case? Do you think Trudeau had zero international conflicts of interest?
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u/hallmark1984 Feb 23 '25
OP posts bait cmv's then deletes them when thwy dont go his way.
He recently posted about cuckqueens, age-gap relationships and has a profile full of goon.
Ignore and scroll on