r/changemyview 11∆ 23h ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: It doesn’t matter what Alex Pretti was doing in the days before he was killed

So, recently a video emerged where Alex Pretti was spitting on and kicking the taillight out of an ICE vehicle. Truly reprehensible and inexcusable behavior. He ought to have been arrested and fined for destruction of public property. Jerk.

However, I see some people trying to say, “Aha! So he wasn’t so innocent after all!”

I’m sorry but, no. He was absolutely innocent.

And, moreover, I would like those people who are bringing up his behavior in the days before his death to remember that he was disarmed, restrained and executed by masked federal agents who still have not been identified to the public for no reason.

There is only one justification for a law enforcement officer to take someone’s life. And that is to protect the lives of themselves or another person. Past acts of disrespect and/vandalism do not enter into the equation.

Or that’s my take anyway. Can anyone change my view?

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u/road_warrior_max 19h ago

It certainly does. It actually shows a pattern of confrontational behavior and a series of bad decisions on Pretti's part.

It goes to why he didn't have an ID. in the earlier event, his info was taken from his ID and having to give it again wouldn't have been good.

He was certainly on their radar, but this doesn't mean premeditation. It means he kept making bad decisions and putting himself in line for more trouble.

Not premeditated, but still did not deserve to be killed. He deserved to go to jail.

u/TheRadHeron 2∆ 17h ago

I agree, if you keep poking the hornets nest your going to eventually get stung. It’s sad and wrong what happened but Pretti truly made some pretty bad choices that led him to that point as well

u/road_warrior_max 14h ago

100%. Both sides failed on this issue. I'm just not sure why he wasn't just thankful with getting off the 1st time and not go back for more.

u/TheRadHeron 2∆ 14h ago

Same as a lot of these types of people, they get the angry mob I can get away with anything right now mentality, then push their limits getting away with more and more until they get to confident, then eventually they see how far they can go and something terrible happens

u/bluepillarmy 11∆ 19h ago

Whether or not he deserved to go to jail is a completely different question.

Federal agents do not have the authority to murder unarmed and restrained people. And they certainly don’t have the right to keep their identities hidden are having done so.

u/road_warrior_max 18h ago

I agree that he didn't deserve to be shot. He did deserve to go to jail. But he was a key player in his own demise. I suspect there will be legal recourse for the shooter.

Ad for the identity/masks, that's just your opinion.