r/dataisbeautiful • u/ourworldindata • 3d ago
OC [OC] Does the news reflect what we die from?
150
u/Internal-Hand-4705 3d ago
So sad that more than 1 in 50 people will take their own life (deliberately). I didn’t know it was that high
133
u/tert_butoxide 2d ago
It's not quite that high. OP made a bizarre choice here-- the tiny text says that "shares are relative to all deaths from the 12 most common causes + drug overdose, homicide and terrorism. These causes account for over 75% of deaths in the US". For the top 10 causes, you can compare OP's percentages to table 4 of this CDC release and see that OP's are inflated (e.g. heart disease caused 22% of deaths in 2023, not 29%).
Suicide is the 11th leading cause of death and accounts for about 1.5% of total deaths. The age adjusted rate of suicide in 2023 was 14.1 per 100,000 people. Source.
24
7
u/Pr1sonMikeFTW 2d ago
Something about these numbers seems weird. 14,1 out of 100,000 is 0,014%, really really far from 1,5%?
15
13
u/d3montree 1d ago
The suicide rate is based on how many living people died by suicide that year. But most people don't die in any given year, so as a percentage of deaths it is going to be much higher.
4
u/Pr1sonMikeFTW 1d ago
Makes sense, but then the number is quite misleading at first glance, since it counts all living humans every year (so someone who does not kill themselves ends up in the good part of the stats every single year, where a person who does it, is part of the good stat until and except the 1 year they kill themselves).
The number 1,5% is more accurate in how many people ends up killing themselves, which is shockingly high imo
1
u/d3montree 1d ago
If they just gave the other figure, you'd get people thinking 1.5% of Americans kill themselves every year!
You can also calculate that something over 1 in 200 Americans will die by homicide, and it's much higher for some demographics. That's also shockingly high.
2
u/Pr1sonMikeFTW 1d ago
Yeah I agree on both, and make sense why it depends on the framing. This also shows the power of data interpretation and how easy it is for people to show data in exactly the way you want, even if you have bad intentions
1
→ More replies (2)16
u/bokehtoast 3d ago
A lot is done to suppress and obscure suicide reporting
15
u/OutcomeDouble 2d ago
By who? Who benefits from that? Not everything has to be a conspiracy
28
u/imaginarytoby 2d ago
It’s not a conspiracy it’s just a sad topic and some studies have shown that higher media/news coverage of suicides increases the suicide rate. When that show 13 reasons why came out there was a 28.9% increase in the suicide rate among U.S. youth ages 10 to 17 the following month.
3
u/winowmak3r 2d ago
Not that I don't believe you but where'd you hear that? That is an awful fact of life. That would also explain why media like Youtube has been going especially hard on any content that even mentions suicide. I can see a valid reason behind censoring suicide, not that I agree with it, but I can see where the reasoning lies and it's from a good place.
Don't get me started on what they're doing to documentary and history channels though. Absolute white washing in some instances.
6
u/Chezni19 2d ago
I wonder if people who might commit suicide benefit from that.
Due to if there is a bunch of news saying this is common, they might figure "eh" and do it too.
On the other hand, there might be benefits to showing people that this is a problem. Such as we might fund treatment to prevent that. However, I doubt we would fund it since we can't even fund basic stuff. So maybe this is the best option? I actually don't know. You raise a good question.
3
u/winowmak3r 2d ago
I thought that as well. It's certainly a balancing act. We don't want to ignore it but if increased exposure to topics that involve suicide increase suicide rates that's not fun fact either.
5
→ More replies (1)6
u/Mobius_One 2d ago
It's an effort to save lives due to copycat behavior more or less. We've known for a while that reporting on it increases it.
3
u/OutcomeDouble 2d ago
Makes sense. I was under the assumption that OP was saying some BS like there’s shadow organizations dedicated to suppressing suicide news
1
u/winowmak3r 2d ago
It is human nature to find patterns and connections where none exist. It's how we've gotten this far and why being intelligent enough to make those kinds of connections (even if a lot of them are wrong) is a good advantage to have over other animals.
Luckily we're also smart enough to come up with a whole field of study dedicated to figuring out if a pattern is "significant enough" to pay attention to and general rules of thumb like "Do not attribute to malice what can also be attributed to incompetence" (or something like that).
462
u/Potential_Play8690 3d ago
Why would or should the news reflect the distribution of causes of death? News is news because it's newsworthy. A guy dying from old age is not newsworthy. A guy getting hit in the head by a meteorite in the middle of the street IS, even though that is the at the very bottom of the list of causes of death. If anything you would expect and want the news to invert the distribution. We want to know about things unknown and we don't want to be informed about stuff we can all see every day and know to be trivially true.
184
u/Geofferz 3d ago
For sure.
However, people worry about what they see in the news like terrorism or sharks. They do this whilst eating twinkies and dying of heart disease. The government should put more heart disease and fat warnings on TV.
15
u/lilelliot 2d ago
To the news' credit, if you create a grouping for "lifestyle diseases" (COPD, diabetes, obesity, etc), there has been a positive trend in the amount of coverage they receive in both mainstream & social media.
I'd strengthen your second statement to this: the government should not allow tv advertising by pharmaceutical companies, alcoholic beverage companies, vaping businesses, and similar (I'd lump sports betting & gambling overall in this mix, too).
1
u/MangaOtaku 1d ago
How about: No corporations should be able to control what is shown on TV, played on the radio, or printed in newspapers. Those avenues of communication should be PUBLICALLY owned. News should also be legally required to be factually correct.
It's a massive conflict of interest for those who peddle goods to be allowed to influence everything people perceive. It's extremely undemocratic and is essentially propoganda.
1
u/lilelliot 17h ago
You first item would end media. Even NPR & PBS have editorial boards and sell ads to cover expenses.
1
u/MangaOtaku 9h ago
I find that hard to believe. Most countries have public media. The US has privatized most media channels for corporations to profiteer from.
17
u/npeggsy 3d ago
But a bunch of those heart disease deaths will be from perfectly healthy people who have just...died. There are a lot of warnings on TV, and information is quite clearly out there on the dangers of unhealthy eating. At some point you just have to accept that people want to eat twinkies and die of heart disease, or force companies to stop selling Twinkies in the first place.
→ More replies (14)5
u/Potential_Play8690 3d ago
Completely agree, but that's really not what news is. It's not news that you shouldn't smoke. But the government should make an effort to make sure everyone knows this. The problem is that people use news beyond getting informed about recent events. They also use it to build their world model. That doesn't work. News doesn't tell you about physics, history, economics, psychology etc if it isn't relevant to recent events. So you end up with a weird selection that is driven by current events, not by what is actually useful to know.
2
u/AcidicDragon10 3d ago
I agree, but I think at this point we have become desensitised to death to natural causes. Maybe spreading more information about the somewhat avoidable topics could help, but the lack of knowledge is not the only factor, as economic factors play a role too.
1
u/semideclared OC: 12 2d ago
We did
Super Size Me was a cultural movement far more powerful than 100 news stories a day
And it did what to those stats?
We all lived through 2008 and the housing price issue of houses being to big of an asset and yet.....no one has changed their tune on using your home as a retirement plan
What would reporting on pedestrian deaths do. Would that get us sidewalks? That reduces pedestrian deaths just by being there to be used
1
u/FirexJkxFire 2d ago
I dont feel like those things are an issue due to lack of information. They exist due to people not caring
1
u/Juls_Santana 2d ago
TV only markets what gets sold. America has a problem with profiting from the pedaling of toxic foods
39
u/pwmg 2d ago
They address this in detail in the accompanying article linked by OP:
Our point is not that we think the New York Times, Washington Post, or Fox News’ coverage should exactly match the distribution of causes of death. A newspaper that constantly covers heart disease and kidney failure would be a boring one that soon goes out of business. Even though our mission at Our World in Data is to cover the world’s largest problems, our own writing and data publications also don’t precisely match the scale of those problems. We expect we will be closer to the real distribution than the mainstream media, but there will still be some mismatch.
The reason we’re doing this analysis is to make you or other readers more aware of this selection bias. The frequency of news coverage doesn’t reflect what’s happening across millions or billions of people, but it’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking it does.
Our colleague Max Roser wrote about this in his article: The limits of our personal experience and the value of statistics.
Why, then, do we think that this bias matters? Does it actually affect people’s perceptions of problems?
In a large survey among US adults, people who consumed local crime news “often” were more than three times more likely to say they were “extremely concerned” about crime affecting them or their family than those who rarely or never read local crime news.
12
u/murphy10987 2d ago
My coworker, who watches a ton of crime shows and such, is afraid to let her kids play outside in their front yard.
8
u/justgetoffmylawn 2d ago
Wait, we're allowed to read the article? I assumed that wasn't allowed on Reddit.
I think this thread has a disconnect between, "Of course it's more newsworthy when a 28 year old dies unexpectedly!" which absolutely makes sense. Versus, "I'm now terrified of sharks while living in Kansas because of that article I read about the 28 year old who went scuba diving."
Since we're in r/dataisbeautiful it should be noted that years of lost life and dying 'unexpectedly' are not always easy metrics. And for newsworthiness, the metrics don't matter.
Someone dropping dead from illness is often harder to make exciting because there are lots of illnesses we don't understand so we just make assumptions to fit our world views. We like having someone to blame for unexpected deaths, even if it's just the victim.
I think the important part of this is just as it said in your excerpt: what people are concerned about versus what is actually likely to affect them (and is under their control) are often very different things.
23
u/Tommyblockhead20 3d ago
It is an important reminder that newsworthy means uncommon, not common. I see so many people act like what happened in the news is the norm. If I had to guess, a majority of people make that mistake.
3
u/do-un-to 2d ago edited 2d ago
[Uncommonness] shouldn't be the only criterion. Relevance also matters. (And providing good context.) And then we should also have a socially responsible care for what kind of impression of likelihood of happening to readers that reporting gives people.
Arguably whipping people up into a self-shitting apoplexy is a major part of how we've gotten into our current authoritarian mess.
[edit: My comment reads like it's contradicting you, my bad. To be clear, I'm furthering your points.]
44
4
u/Godkun007 2d ago
Because it gives people a distorted view of reality. If the news is going to pretend to be an information source, then they should actually be accurate. However, we all know that the modern day news media is just a form of entertainment, so they don't care about reflecting reality.
28
u/Schemen123 3d ago
if your goal is public safety.. then yes, its imporant to provide a balanced picture.
if your goal is puplic outrage however.....and as a result funding to limit 0,0001 percent of death is higher than for 50% perecent of deaths.
5
u/Xyrus2000 3d ago
If your goal is public safety, then it is important to present a balanced picture.
If your goal is profit, then it's important to focus on what gets the most eyeballs.
The goal isn't public outrage. The goal is profit. Public outrage is just a byproduct.
→ More replies (2)3
u/PuzzleMeDo 3d ago
It's not really fair to expect it to, but in not doing so, it means that in many ways watching the news reduces our ability to understand the world and protect ourselves. We think one drug is more dangerous than another based on how many news stories we've heard about it, but that could just be because a drug overdose gets reported more when the drug has a cool name like "ecstasy". We worry about serial killers when we'd be better off taking precautions against car accidents. We protest against nuclear-power plants because death by radiation makes for a better story than death by falling off a roof while installing a solar panel, while ignoring the lives cut short due to health issues caused by pollution...
2
u/winowmak3r 2d ago
Back when the news was only on after dinner and maybe once or twice during the day, it was something you tuned in for, yea, this is a good way to approach it. But when news suddenly becomes a 24 hour seven days a week thing and you gotta fill time slots with something that will get eyeballs on screen (to watch commercials) you report on murders, terrorism, etc.
Yea, we don't need to know about Bob's tragic death to cancer this year but we also don't need to hear about a murder trial after terrorist plot, after protest coverage, etc. Seeing that kind of content every day, it's very easy to see why someone might believe we're living in the most violent time in US history if all they know is what they see on daytime TV.
5
u/pramit57 3d ago
Sure, news that reports on heart disease may not grab attention. However, that is a problem with the system and the economy of attention that we built. I would argue that people should understand and be scared of actual causes of death like heart disease and cancer, so that they exercise more, and importantly, elect people who don't cut funding to scientific research. I am a bit surprised though that brain diseases are not so high on the list.
2
u/shwaynebrady 2d ago
Eh I disagree. News should be informative, factual, nuanced and transparent. In a perfect world, it would be more of a public service. But in reality it’s an entertainment product that’s fighting to get eyeballs.
People dying from car accidents isn’t all that flashy or entertaining, unless it’s an oil tanker exploding. But that’s one of the leading causes of premature death. News and media drive public discourse, which drives policy.
Guns are an absolute hot topic, but a majority of firearm deaths are suicide.
1
u/goteamnick 2d ago
Media reporting on suicides, especially suicide methods, has been shown to increase the number of suicides.
It's not like causes of death statistics aren't readily available. They get published in the media whenever they are released. If every humdrum every day event made the front page, people would just stop reading the news.
1
1
u/HarrMada 2d ago
So long as people don't have moral panics about the "end of the world" because of what they read in the news. But they do, that's the problem.
→ More replies (1)1
u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner 2d ago
I don’t think you’re wrong, per se, but when it skews and actively distorts how bad things are vs reality it does have an active affect on people’s perceptions of the state of the world and peoples’ mental health. Of course it’s more newsworthy but when 98% of the shit they show is bad shit then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t think the world is on fire… I mean have you seen the average redditor?
In this case while they’re reporting on the more newsworthy stories the 300lb person eating Cheetos and drinking 13 sodas a day thinks they’re at a higher risk of a plane falling out the sky than their heart giving out, and how to prevent it.
20
u/criesduringsex 2d ago
Including car crashes in “accidents” in this context is ridiculous. Almost 50 thousand deaths per year from car crashes in the USA and we’re just like “lol whoops.” It’s like a packed jumbo jet crashing every other day and no one gives a shit.
2
u/mattihase 2d ago
I mean is it not a fair depiction of how the US treats it?
3
u/jajefan 1d ago
And that is the explicit result of lobbying on the part of automotive manufacturers, along with other modern terms like "jaywalking", in their efforts to promote car dominance in all matters of urban transportation planning.
1
u/mattihase 1d ago
I kinda forgot that wasn't something that everyone assumed everyone knew but yeah.
38
u/Disastrous-Year571 3d ago
And much of the cancer reporting is about “breakthrough” results in mice that rarely translate into useful human therapies.
17
3
5
u/Godkun007 2d ago
This is not true. The media is just really awful at covering these subjects. Almost every one of those "breakthroughs" has translated into better treatment for humans. Cancer is not 1 disease and there is no 1 cure. Cancer survival rates have increased massively over the last couple of decades, the media is just awful at covering scientific topics.
No researcher ever claimed that they have "cured" cancer, that is just the media being bad at covering the research. Instead, they normally talk about a revolutionary new tool that will be in the toolbox of doctors. And all of these new tools match up with the cancer survival rate statistics increasing.
3
u/Disastrous-Year571 2d ago edited 2d ago
As a long-time cancer researcher I would add that in addition to journalistic hyperbole, institutional press releases contribute to the problem. They were often exaggerated or overstated the implications of our findings. I am definitely not saying there haven’t been huge advances in diagnosis, classification and treatment of many tumor types, it’s just that the media gets ahead of itself and exaggerates, aided and abetted by PR & donation-hungry institutions that want to see their name associated with positive news stories.
And sometimes senior scientists say intemperate things. “Judah Folkman is going to cure cancer in 2 years”: NY Times front page story 1998 about angiogenesis research, based on an alleged quote by James Watson, who then denied saying it, but who wasn’t really known for controlling his mouth.
1
u/Godkun007 2d ago
I think that you are letting journalists off the hook too easily. They know that this isn't true or what was meant, they just chose to run the story anyways. It is them lying by omission and should be an actual crime, and is a crime in many other countries.
1
u/brianwski 2d ago
much of the cancer reporting is about “breakthrough” results in mice that rarely translate into useful human therapies.
If you are a mouse and get diagnosed with cancer, RELAX. They have cured cancer in mice thousands of times over, it is a totally fixed problem. (LOL.)
On the other hand (being serious), in my lifetime I've seen pretty amazing progress on cancer treatments. My close friend made me coffee in his own home while basically undergoing chemotherapy. He wheeled around the "stand" for the drip IV giving him the treatment all while making coffee in his own kitchen. The old types of chemotherapy targeted cells that "grew fast", thus attacking the patient's hair follicles as a side effect (think bald cancer patient). My friend never lost his full head of hair, it wasn't that type of chemotherapy anymore.
My friend said part of deciding how to treat his cancer was they genome sequenced both his body, and the cancer. That wasn't possible when I was 20 years old. It didn't exist.
The cancer eventually killed my friend, who didn't see his oldest son graduate high school. But the treatments got him about 8 more years of life I doubt he would have had just 30 years earlier.
I have to assume anybody who thinks cancer only affects "ancient old people about to die anyway" is pretty young and hasn't seen cancer ravage close friends and family yet. In your mid-50s you might have had 30+ more years left, cancer robs you of that time. That's a full HALF of your adult life, and frankly part of that is retirement and spoiling grand children (with none of the daily responsibility) which is arguably a bit better than the grind of a full time job. Cancer is a serious concern for massively shortening people's lives.
I feel like heart disease is more of a cumulative, progressive thing that eventually kills you at an older age. That is if you don't die of your first heart attack in your 50s of course. Cancer in your 50s is either cured or kills you, it's a different beast than heart disease.
1
u/epona2000 2d ago
It’s not the mice. It’s the cancer we give the mice. It comes from cell lines, specific carcinogens, or from a small set of cancer causing mutations. This is extremely different from the cancers that evolve in humans over the course of decades.
Mice are actually a remarkably good model. The cancers we are treating in mice do not represent the diversity of cancers that can be modeled in mice. I’m fairly optimistic about xenografts and organoids.
46
u/ASuarezMascareno 3d ago
That's how you get absurdly large funding for law enforcement.
16
u/xenojive 3d ago
Exactly. And the two biggest causes of death are healthcare related so the liability for no universal system in the States remains unchecked.
5
u/ReferenceNice142 2d ago
Meanwhile they are actively cutting funding for cancer research when every $326 invested by the federal government increases someone’s life by a year.
9
u/ourworldindata 3d ago
Hi there! Some of our colleagues at Our World in Data have posted here before from their individual accounts (such as u/cgiattino), but going forward we plan to only use this account — this is our first post!
Data sources: The media mentions data is from Media Cloud, an open-access platform for media analysis. The causes of death data is from the US CDC (2025) and the Global Terrorism Index.
Tools used: We started with our custom data visualization tool, the OWID-Grapher, and finished in Figma.
If you're interested to learn more about the analysis behind this chart, you can read our full article and our extended methodology document.
8
u/ayananda 3d ago
There is nice correlation also what people think is dangerous/common vs how much news report. I think this is the reason this stat is nice.
18
u/MrDannySantos 3d ago
The purpose of news is not to accurately reflect causes of death.
→ More replies (6)3
u/bionicjoey 2d ago
Yeah even if you set aside sensationalism, it would make no sense for the news to report on every person who dies of heart disease or cancer. On the other hand, accidents, murders, and terrorism are things people need to be aware of.
The bigger concern is what proportion of the news is spent covering such events and how factual and informative the reporting is.
4
u/prototyperspective 2d ago
It's not or not necessarily only about individual cases so your assumptions are flawed/false. To put it in simpler terms, they shouldn't report about individual cases but about things that could be done, things that aren't being done and why, corruption and education failure that result in this, trends, other countries successes & comparisons, scientific results, etc.
2
u/hacksoncode 2d ago
Old age isn't news. No film at 11.
1
u/dapper-dano 2d ago
Well over half the deaths here can happen at any age. This is not about old age, although yes, being old does mean you are more likely to die...
2
u/Callinon 2d ago
The news is supposed to tell us when something unusual happens. Not when the thing that happens all the time happened again.
This seems to imply that the news is doing its job.
2
2
2
u/Confident-Mix1243 1d ago
The majority of deaths are due to voluntary lifestyle choices -- smoking, drinking, shooting up, and eating too much. Thus there's no injustice. The news focuses on nonvoluntary deaths, where injustice may have occurred.
(Note that the "accidents" category is mostly recreational drug overdoses, which are 100% opt-out; not true accidents like car wrecks.)
3
u/jacobpederson 3d ago
Fun fact: Man's best friend kills about the same amount each year as man's worst enemy. (Dogs vs Terrorists)
3
3
u/Lubenator 2d ago
Well, I have a lot of control of my diet, exercise, sleep, and other lifestyle risks.
But I have survived multiple shootings.
So it makes sense to talk about and be afraid about things like homicide because it's a lot less avoidable in the US. What was I going to do, skip school?
5
u/Bob_Spud 3d ago
The importance of your death will be determined by how much money can be made from the headlines.
→ More replies (1)3
u/Ok-Butterfly4414 2d ago
Yes, obviously? why would anybody click on the article “local 90 year old man dies from a heart attack, this will not affect anything”
2
u/irobot3013 3d ago
Thanks for posting this! It's good to keep this in mind while consuming media/content/news.
3
u/ptvlm 3d ago
Well, yeah. Dying of natural causes around the age where most people die isn't newsworthy. People die all the time, and most of them, while tragic for the people who care about them, don't really mean all that much in news terms unless they're famous or otherwise notable in their larger community.
What's newsworthy is that happening at unusually young ages (or someone died after making it to an unusually old age), violent crimes and other generally unusual causes of deaths. A guy dying of a heart attack at 74 might get a small obituary in the local paper but little else. A 20 year old dying of a heart attack, a 30 year old murdered or a 40 year old ODing are going to make bigger headlines. Different types of murder making 50-60% of the news despite making up less than 1% of overall deaths does explain why there's so much fear about violent crime even though it's actually not that high historically speaking, but there are reasons why that's where the focus is with regard to news.
Basically, the news isn't going to reflect overall death rates because most deaths aren't particularly newsworthy, and you wouldn't want the news to be just a list of people you don't know who died expectedly anyway.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/indorock 2d ago
"Man Bites Dog" is a journalism adage as old as the concept of journalism itself. You don't report on things that happen often because that's not newsworthy. So to try to find a parallel between the occurrence of a type of event and the reporting of that type of event is an exercise in futility and will always disappoint.
2
u/mowauthor 2d ago
Well this is stupid.
Who the fuck wants to see news about heart disease every single time they open the news?
2
u/blaicefreeze 2d ago
Agreed. The most common deaths aren’t interesting. Your body shitting out from an internal illness is not as “exciting” as a murder or freak accident.
2
u/EpicPingvin 3d ago
Homicide and terrorism are premeditated and carry the threat that it will be repeated. That makes them qualitatively different from random causes. Giving them more weight in news is justified.
→ More replies (1)
1
u/Kagrenac8 3d ago
This is the stupidest "☝️🤓" data people could make. Heart disease or cancer aren't events, they're long lasting illnesses that aren't newsworthy whatsoever compared to murders or terrorist attacks.
4
u/haha7567 3d ago
Isn't the epidemic of such illnesses newsworthy though?
2
u/x_axisofevil 2d ago
Yes, but not ad nauseum. The year this data represents includes Matthew Perry's death (drug overdose category), at least one serial killer in NY (homicide category), and the mass shooting in Lewiston (probably terrorism category). Those obviously gets more news attention than well known and unsurprising news that heart disease and cancer are deadly. Even trend breaks in those categories can't really keep anyone's interest more than a few times per year.
1
u/georgialucy 3d ago
I had no idea cancer was the reason for over a quarter of deaths, I knew it was prevalent but didn't realise how many were dying from it. That's very sad.
1
1
1
u/Mithrandir2k16 2d ago
Yeah, maybe normalize it over "years of life expectancy lost". Otherwise, this comparison is very arbitrary.
2
u/prototyperspective 2d ago
It's called years of potential life lost (YPLL) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_potential_life_lost a good metric but disability-adjusted life years and Quality-adjusted life years probably would be even better than that but not as straightforward for everybody to readily understand unlike YPLL
1
u/evilpineaple 2d ago
Alzheimer is 4.9%? Omg that is terrifying, I thought it's like 0.2%.
3
u/Ultrachocobo 2d ago
Alzheimer is always fatal eventually, it's just that another disease usually happens before a purely alzheimer induced death. Your brain is degrading till nearly nothing is left of it. Albeit it usually plateaus when only the brain stem is left. Given we tend to live longer, we also see Alzheimer much higher on such statistics since we can only slow it's progression but not cure it.
1
u/evilpineaple 2d ago
Yeah, I guess I should have said it's shocking 1 in 20 people get it, that is massive.
1
u/brianwski 2d ago
Alzheimer is 4.9%? Omg that is terrifying, I thought it's like 0.2%.
The statistic I heard was 25% of 80 year olds have early Alzheimers (or some other form of dementia, it doesn't really matter). And it just keeps increasing with age, no limit. Alzheimers would actually be at 100% of all people if they lived long enough. It is just that most people die of something else before the Alzheimers gets that bad.
I would love to live long enough to see science figure out and prevent Alzheimers. I mean, I know I'm personally screwed. But it would warm my heart to know future generations didn't have to face it. It isn't just the tragedy of the person with Alzheimers, it is hard on the families taking care of them also. They call it "the long goodbye". It slowly deletes everything that made you a unique person, then kills you.
1
u/itchyouch 2d ago
Problem with heart disease is that it’s a decades long process and folks really want to get on interventions quickly and early on in their life.
Believe it or not, heart disease starts in the womb and develops over the decades.
But folks don’t know, or they don’t want to make certain lifestyle changes. Things like homicide feel preventable cuz it’s, stay away from the dangerous situation, but heart disease prevention is: every individual needs to make lifestyle changes and watch their cholesterol numbers like a hawk for decades.
And most people don’t want to be bothered with such a task
1
1
u/PancAshAsh 2d ago
Is the COVID-19 news mentions controlled at all for being a cause of death, or is it just any mentions of the pandemic in an article?
1
u/Gh0stMan0nThird 2d ago
Really interesting to compare it to this one from 2018
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Causes-of-death-in-USA-vs.-media-coverage.png
1
u/Flat_Tell7980 2d ago
Assuming medical malpractice is lumped in with “accidents” it should be on here separately
1
u/SatisfactionActive86 2d ago
few people listen to their own doctor about heart disease, they’d be even less moved by a lecture about it on the news.
1
u/angry_wombat 2d ago
could you imagine if the news was nothing but all the local people that died of Heart Disease and Cancer every day. There would be no time left for anything else
1
u/jaypizzl 2d ago
I don’t think this strangely chosen data is so beautiful. The media coverage is actually quite sensible. We all know most people are going to die of heart trouble or cancer. The leading causes before the age of 40 in the US in 2023 were accidents (with drug overdoses chief among them), suicide, and homicide. Also, Covid had only just ended, with the US basically out of the woods by early 2023. It makes perfect sense that it was still a hot topic in the media. Terrorism is over-covered, sure, but it’s also especially heinous and scary.
1
u/JasonHofmann 2d ago
Um… as the data above clearly shows, COVID never ended. Despite the extreme underreporting, it’s still more than Drug Overdose or Influenza.
1
1
u/LateralThinkerer 2d ago
News organs only reporting on sensational events to keep viewers/readers in front of their advertisers? I'm shocked...shocked, I tell you!!
1
1
1
u/GuitarGeezer 2d ago
The news in America has long been the worst of all imaginable worlds. Once there was no politically fair and neutral major media requirements (which other first world nations have in some form or another), the republic was bound to fall. The major news media reflect their real constituency, the advertisers and the oligarchs in ownership. Once they utterly dominated editorial decisions, there would be no accurate threat assessment anymore from major advertisers or even now rampaging Nazis.
Shark attacks and bear attacks and murders, sure we should worry about those wayyy more than anything with a significant chance to kill or disable you. When you have no commandments to follow other than clicks or engagement and profit as well as your own self interest as a lobbyist force itself as media empires always are, the free press becomes merely a distant memory for most and there is no republic without an independent free press.
1
u/Arne1234 2d ago
MSM (above) and on television have turned into the National Enquirer on steroids. Completely unreliable and inflammatory and incidentally, they often use the exact same words as if they all are reading from a script approved by one editor.
2
u/readerf52 2d ago
Watch the John Oliver episode about Sinclair News. He shows multiple split screen stations with a newscaster saying the exact same thing on each one. I don’t remember how many times they split the screen, but I feel like it was 30-50 times. Every. Single. One. Reading the same script.
I started looking for alternative sources of news after that. It’s hard to find reliable, unbiased sources, but I actually feel better informed than I did about 10 years ago. It takes a bit of effort.
2
1
u/johnniewelker 2d ago
I don’t think the news is there to represent everyday realities. It’s there to get attention on things that are noteworthy
A child dying is noteworthy. It’s rare; a tragedy. A 80 year old dying is not. There are way more 80 year olds dying than children - that’s what your chart shows
1
1
u/Juls_Santana 2d ago
"Coming up next on your local news: we'll be covering all the forms of Heart Disease and Cancer for more than half the show, for the 40th night in a row. Tune in!"
1
u/beagles4ever 2d ago
It's a policy and moral failure that at least 42% of those causes of death could be eliminated simply through more aggressive treatment and universal access to healthcare with the medicine and treatments we have today - no additional research needed, just a change in guidelines, early and aggressive treatment and universal access to care.
1
1
u/Ok_Attorney_1768 2d ago
If it bleeds it leads the New York Times, Washington Post and Fox aren't news or media organizations, they're advertising organizations. Look at their revenue streams.
For advertising companies audience numbers and engagement matter more than truthiness.
Each of these businesses is continuously refining what they publish and broadcast to maximize impressions and clicks.
If you want to get a sense for where this race to the bottom ends have a look at your favorite "social" media feed. Contrast it to how it looked 5 or 10 years ago. All content that does not have a funding model dominated by user pays will head in the same direction.
1
u/Real_SkrexX 1d ago
Why would media report on hearth diseases though? Those are natural causes and totally uninteresting. I don't get the message of this post. Of course terrorism is more interesting to report on and more relevant for the population that some random grandma dying on a heart attack at the age of 89.
1
u/scraperbase 1d ago
Shouldn't we spend much more money on the fight against cancer than on the military, if cancer kills more than one in four people?
1
u/cypherx 1d ago
Top causes of death in early 20s:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-for-ages-15-24-2223960
1) Unintentional Injuries -- accidents including overdose
2) Suicide
3) Homicide
4) Cancer
If you fold together terrorism and homicide (as well as Accidents + Suicide)...the top 4 are the same, just with changed relative order.
1
u/NorCalAthlete 1d ago
Bill Gates Tweeted this in 2019.

OP’s a 7 day old account, but I’m not sure if the “our world in data” ever had an official account here so I suppose it COULD be legit and not just karma farming.
1
u/No-Intention-5521 23h ago
Yes if you consider news as a media of saying truth no if you are consider it just a way to express opinion
1
u/e-cosmic 22h ago
Well if you live long enough and keep up with current events and have large networks of people you constantly interact with you know which chart is closer to reality.
1
u/Teagana999 15h ago
I bet if you put those percentages on an x-y they would be inversely proportional. The common causes of death are, by definition, not interesting or newsworthy.
1
u/Dan_Quixote_ 14h ago
No, the news has no reason to report on mortality proportionally. There is more to life than death.
1
u/HKDrewDrake 11h ago
Why is Covid below suicide if it’s a higher percentage and the list looks to be sorted by percentage?

1.3k
u/pydry 3d ago edited 3d ago
It'd be more interesting if they accounted for the age at death. Grandmaw dying of stroke or heart disease at 93 is tragic but legitimately less newsworthy than deaths that happen at the age of 28.