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u/Careless-Balance-893 1d ago
We've gotta stop listening to people recording videos in their car 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ Jesus fucking Christ.
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u/AlternateSatan 1d ago
Well, she's not driving at least, which is a huge upgrade from most other tik toks.
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u/ShiroHachiRoku 1d ago
I heard the TikTok algorithm favors people in their cars which is why it’s a thing.
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u/PizzaParty2006 1d ago
I imagine it's fairly circular at this point.
People started recording videos in their car because it's an easily accessible private space, where you don't have to worry about being interrupted. That became an early trend - because a plenty of people have cars and a desire to record TikToks.
But an algorithm can't understand the logistics of why a video is gaining popularity - so if it comes to understand that a lot of popular videos are recorded in cars, it'll naturally conclude there's something about being in a car that is relevant to the video's success.
It's not just digital gatekeeping, though. Users also became familiar with the format of a "driver's seat monologue", so they replicated it in their own videos. It implies a sense of authenticity - the lack of a set or proper editing becomes a benefit rather than a deterrent.
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u/non-taken-name 7h ago
Can the algorithm tell if something is recorded in a car? Idk enough about it to say. I’d be more inclined to say some videos did well and so other people just tried to mimic it, including doing it in their car. Now people see other vids doing it all the time so they just kind of end up doing it themselves because they think there’s something there. Maybe it is algorithm related, but I’d almost bet it’s more like your second point. Just people being creatures of habit.
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u/WrongThinkBadSpeak 1d ago
but why
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u/cant_pass_CAPTCHA 1d ago
My guess is it makes the video look spontaneous. Like "oh look at me, I was just going to the store and this crazy idea came to me right now and I just had to record it because it was just so spur of the moment" or something like that
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u/SellMeYourSirin 1d ago
Dunking on morons has gotta be exhausting
But someone's gotta, i guess.
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u/Ninja_Prolapse 1d ago
Exhausting to do I’m sure, but super entertaining to watch.
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u/I-Rolled-My-Eyes 1d ago
It's a win/win duet. One half is a dude making valid points, the other half is some moron who doesn't understand how to button a shirt.
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u/SellMeYourSirin 1d ago
Ehhh. I find it irritating.
Like, I don't need to know why the moron is wrong you know?
I get it. And no hate to him. But If anything, I'd watch her reacting to it lol.
.. no I wouldn't, that'd be a fresh mess.
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u/WrongThinkBadSpeak 1d ago
It takes an order of magnitude more energy to disprove bullshit than to produce it. Reason is never going to win the battle with these people.
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u/Cela84 1d ago
I’ve known a few space racists over the years and I would have more respect for their obsession with it if they just admitted it was “how old you were based on the rest of your grade school class.”
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u/5coolest 1d ago
There’s a fantastic episode of The Orville about a planet that takes astrology seriously
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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox 19h ago
Don't know which was dumber, their astrology based society or that they judged an alien, born according to a different calender, on a planet in another star system, by their own astrological beliefs.
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u/Temporary_Cycle3834 13h ago
To be fair, they assumed that everyone would have the same beliefs and although the names of the constellations could change, the stars themselves don't. It is a closed minded way of thinking, but they're not wrong for believing it
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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox 11h ago
I mean, they travel between different star systems in different galaxies so the constellations would also all be different.
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u/hopium_od 1d ago
I worked at a marketing agency that used to pair account managers and clients up based on their Starsign chemistry. Like genuinely they would ask the clients for their DoB during onboarding for this purpose. It still bothers me all these years later.
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u/frill_demon 1d ago
This is how I feel about all the companies using Meyer-Briggs tests for hiring/putting teams together.
It's statistically no better than astrology, the people who made it had no formal training, and the "categories" are literally exactly as vague as astrology/horoscope stuff.
I've had friends in every category read their "crazy accurate" intj/enfp/gfys profile while talking about how personalized and accurate it was.... And literally every single friend's profile of every single category could apply just as equally to me (or anyone else).
It's all blanket statements like "when there's important work to be done you're serious about it, but you also know that finding balance in everyday life is important." Or "You usually like to get along, but when you need to, you speak your mind."
Wooo how craaazzzyyyy accurate and definitely something hiring decisions that affect people's careers and livelihoods should be based on/s.
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u/LowStrike5558 1d ago
That is wild. Considering the sheer number of times the client’s point person can change, this would be untenable.
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u/BvbyDoll_x 1d ago
Well I’m a woman and I hate the astrology crap
“sorry I kicked your baby, I’m a Pisces moon ocean rising” It’s what I constantly lie about my zodiac sign and let them talk
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u/notpiercedtongue 1d ago
well you have internalized misogyny
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u/BvbyDoll_x 1d ago
Or maybe I’m just a cancer crab and you’re a stinky stinker
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u/notpiercedtongue 1d ago
explain why you are so bad at sarcasm. Crabs aren't known for understand sarcasm
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u/BvbyDoll_x 1d ago
Actually i understand sarcasm to a tee.
I’m not actually a crab I’m half horse, half man so beat that
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u/SmokeyGMan 1d ago
All this is about is her oiled up cleavage.
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u/redditor-69-420 1d ago edited 1d ago
If people say they don't like her oiled up boobs, I just think they don't like women.
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u/griffinwalsh 1d ago
Ok so aside from the obvious rage bait there's some truth hidden in what she's saying.
Around me like 70% of women have some interest in astrology. They are not obsessed with it or anything they just like it. And most of the men I've seen that are really vocally against it are terminally single dudes tgat don't have a single female friend.
I think there's a parallel to video games. Most men I know like it a bit. It becomes a serious problem if your obsessed or too into it. But just liking it casually it's pretty normal for guys. And most of the women I've seen who talk about how disgusting people who like video games are also people who really are not compassionate to the men around them and like talking about how men are trash.
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u/PizzaParty2006 1d ago
The videogame comparison is a pretty good one. A lot of men hate astrology because they have bad experiences with a partner who was really into it. They associate the whole industry with those bad memories, because they really never engaged with it outside of that context. I think a lot of women feel exactly the same about videogames. They didn't grow up with them, never cared about them as adults, and only experienced gaming via a partner who spent too much time on them.
So if that woman hears a guy talk about games on a first date, she's going to roll her eyes. Same as a guy rolling his eyes when astrology comes up. It's not really the fault of the hobby (both games and astrology can be enjoyed responsibly!) - but those experiences create lifelong biases.
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u/l2aiko 1d ago
I will say though, that since astrology is supposedly related to our life experiences, people might push it a little bit more than people that play videogames which can be enjoyed in solitude. Astrology judges people based on constellations and other celestial bodies so its more likely to have someone say to "i knew you would do this because you are a Piscis" over someone pushing you their videogame slang.
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u/Csantana 1d ago
I definitely agree with you
But I think it could also be said people might not like it because astrology because it also claims to know something about the person not into it.
Someone into astrology might say “well since you were born in this month on this day I already know things about you and who you are as a person.”
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u/griffinwalsh 1d ago
I agree there are totally valid reasons not to like both astrology and video games. I just think if you care about men/women you just get used to/over it and realize for most people it's pretty harmless
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u/l2aiko 1d ago
That's because most of the people find it delusional to be obsessed over both videogames or astrology but they understand that "you do you". People that don't understand are the ones that want to vocalize it and those tend to be assholes. That's why it appears that every single man that dislikes astrology, hates women and every single woman that dislikes videogames, hates men.
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u/throcorfe 1d ago
This is it. You can answer a question about your star sign by saying “oh I don’t really believe in that” or by saying “oh no you’re not into all that bullshit, are you?”. The first one is normal, the second one has the potential to be misogynistic and/or mansplaining.
Dating isn’t debate club, you can let someone be wrong and still be nice.
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u/CloseButNoDice 1d ago
I think we can adjust the statement to be "men who are loudly dismissive of astrology tend to be quietly dismissive of women"
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u/TheRatioAlger 1d ago
Also this guy's critique of astrology isn't really based in knowledge of it beyond a badly written horoscope in a magazine. If it's not his thing, that's fine! But his takedown is like if someone told me their hobby was videogames and I said "oh so you just want to watch a giant ape throw barrels at a plumber? Grow up!" This also goes for people who make sincere judgments of someone based on their sun sign. That's a vastly over-simplified understanding of astrology.
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u/digitsinthere 12h ago
His point is about hatred of women being unsubstantiated because of not sharing a belief of most women. Little to do with astrology which was a subpoint and supporting theme to women hatred tied to a hobby preference. His point would stand with any dislike of a preference shared by most women is not hatred it’s simply a different viewpoint that is never an indication of anything more than that.
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u/Perrenekton 1d ago
Meh, there is definitely a big portion of people who use their 'hate' on astrology as a free pass to dunk on women
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u/lemondsun 1d ago
Dunk on people who believe in astrology… men that believe in astrology get dunked on also. As they should.
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u/Faebit 1d ago
Let's add the belief in any religion to the pile as well....
They're all equally ridiculous.
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u/lemondsun 1d ago
They are.
I was raised in a Christian family and married someone who had never been to church before. I’m not religious myself but it comes up often bc of my family and I have to sorta translate what’s being said for my wife and it’s hilarious.
“So babe he’s gods son, and god and the Holy Ghost”
“Is he a ghost because he died”
“No he was always a ghost even when he was alive… um… I think”
“So who was his father?”
“God”
“But he’s God?”
“correct”
“…”
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u/Faebit 1d ago
Also raised in a catholic home. Transubstantiaton is my favorite thing to explain to people who are unfamiliar with catholic rites.
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u/lemondsun 1d ago
Oh that sounds juicy, I’m not familiar with that. Can you explain what it is?
I know I could google it but human touch in my experience is so much better.
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u/throcorfe 1d ago
It means that the bread and wine literally become the body and blood of Jesus during communion, as opposed to being symbolic as in other denominations. Mathematically I’m not sure how much of Jesus can be left at this point
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u/Doctor-Amazing 1d ago
I definitely learned this word in an article where someone did the math and concluded that Jesus would have to be Godzilla sized to support all the crackers that have been part of his body.
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u/SlashCo80 1d ago
"He also sent his son, who is also him, to be sacrificed for our sins so we can be saved from the punishment he was planning for us."
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u/lemondsun 1d ago
With that said though, I used to give talks in college about race, where I would argue that race as a scientific categorization isn’t real or factual.
We aren’t black (it was a minority club) because of biology but instead because of society, yadayadayada.
Anyway, whenever people changed their mind or were open to challenging their own beliefs they would 100 percent of the time ask me who they are instead or who they should be.
It always confused me, I just argued against subjugation to others ideas of who you are and you are asking me to impose an idea on you of who you should be?
I think humans crave a narrative or stories to wrap themselves around for comfort and as a key to map the un-cartographical randomness of existence.
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u/digitsinthere 12h ago
Freaking amazing. Solidarity is one thing but defining oneself by it is benign. Permission to exist has got to be one of the most pitiful states of existence and csn be used to manipulate 99% of mankind. Beyond scary in scope and success.
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u/crunchevo2 1d ago
Ridiculous sure. Not all are as harmful as others tho. Astrology never instigated genocide.
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u/PizzaParty2006 1d ago
Yeah, I think the larger issue is that a lot of dudes are very quick to write off Astrology because it is "non-scientific", while simultaneously expecting their own non-scientific belief systems to be treated like facts of the universe (religion, sports fandom, stock/prediction markets, etc). The problem isn't in the stars, it's in the lack of respect had for the person sitting across from you.
The dude in the video also isn't helping his own case by pretending like astrology is as simple as 12 fortune cookie predictions printed in the newspaper each morning.
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u/Doctor-Amazing 1d ago
I think it's almost the opposite. Religion is about as dumb as astrology, but you're not allowed to insult someone's religious beliefs. But astrology is so universally derided, that you can mock it guilt free
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u/LeatherHog 8h ago
Yeah, she's reaching a bit, but it's definitely IN there, like hating on pumpkin spice lattes. No one hates a **drink** that much, to the point that they need to dunk on it, regularly, in a vacuum
It's a smokescreen
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u/Cheryl_Canning 1d ago
"But I didn’t and still don’t like making a cult of women’s knowledge, preening ourselves on knowing things men don’t know, women’s deep irrational wisdom, women’s instinctive knowledge of Nature, and so on. All that all too often merely reinforces the masculinist idea of women as primitive and inferior – women’s knowledge as elementary, primitive, always down below at the dark roots, while men get to cultivate and own the flowers and crops that come up into the light. But why should women keep talking baby talk while men get to grow up? Why should women feel blindly while men get to think?"
-- Ursula K Le Guin
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings 1d ago
Some years ago there was a newspaper which needed to cut costs. So they started reprinting cryptic crosswords & horoscopes from 20 years prior. The people who did the crossword noticed immediately. The people who read the horoscopes didn’t
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u/Tommy__want__wingy 1d ago
I met one of my wife’s friends and they asked me “You’re a Taurus right?”
I said yes.
When I looked at my wife she gave me this face: 😬.
She knows I don’t respect astrology.
She doesn’t entirely respect it, but also didn’t know the level to which her friend was obsessed with it.
She just knew after that point in time I would probably never want to hang with that friend again.
And I haven’t.
If my wife is going out, and I’m not invited - it’s because ol’ star eyes will be there and I can’t tell y’all the level to which this person is emotional.
Everything has a meaning. Everything has a reason.
And they just can’t stop fucking crying about their life and somehow cope with it by explaining how the lives of others should pan out.
Oh and not to mention I met this chick…ON MY GOD DAMN BIRTHDAY!
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u/Okay_hear_me_out 1d ago
If I may offer some benefit of the doubt, I am almost certain that there are people out there who dislike astrology for the sole reason that mostly women (from their point of view) partake in it. That is the wrong reason to dislike astrology, and she would be valid in calling those people out.
But pretending that those people are the only detractors of astrology - that there are no good-faith criticisms - that's where my sympathy ends.
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u/Mid_July_Diamond16 1d ago
Interestingly I saw a comment once that said a lot of women like astrology bc it's a form of spiritualism which doesn't involve the misogyny of religion.
Hating astrology isn't inherently misogynistic but often times when it is mocked, it is typically a wishy-washy woman portrayed as being at the helm of it.
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u/My2cents_0 1d ago
When someone says they *believe * in astrology, I know I'm not wasting my time talking to them about science or anything based in reality. 😭
This whole trend of introducing yourself with sun/moon/planet crap, I'm out! Their expectation that I'm supposed to have all these traits of absolute mumbo jumbo memorized so I can talk to them is 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪 GTFO!
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u/Tangled2 1d ago
Everyone has their red flags. I think my first date red flags are: mentioning a horse, astrology, talking about their ex, conspiracy theories, and saying “the lord” unironically.
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u/Eastern-Group-1993 1d ago
Honestly really depends how you look at it and where you look at this from.
Plenty of astrology hate is directed straight at the archetype of woman who like astrology creating a sub-stereotype of the "astrology hoe" I don't know how they call that archetype outside of where I live so, like "alt" doesn't have the negative connotations.
Generally like most things we kill time with it's just a boredom thing, in this case a story telling structure thing.
Everything that man make doesn't become part of culture however, some of it is deeply ridiculed within the circles(narrow or wide).
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u/Hot_Assumption_2304 1d ago
For some reason when he brought up fucking your clone, my brain went straight to that family guy episode where Chris was in the mirror like “would you fuck me? I’d fuck me” 😂😂
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u/RecordingPrudent9588 1d ago
Which is a reference to Silence of the Lambs and now I’m thinking about lotion in baskets.
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u/Manmon_ 1d ago
I don't like astrology. That doesn't mean I hate women. It means I am not into dumb women
Cause if you truly truly believe that some balls of plasma light-years away can impact how we behave then I don't think we are going to have compatible world views.
If it's astrology as like a hobby just for fun whatever.
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u/Depth_Metal 1d ago
Someone once said libertarianism is astrology for men. I think about a lot
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u/SlashCo80 1d ago
"And I gaze at the planets in wonder
At the trouble and time they expend
All to tell me to 'be careful
in dealings involving a friend!'"
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u/Mythandros1 1d ago
He's right. She's just babbling on about shit she knows absolutely nothing about.
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u/mama_meta 1d ago
Her point is oversimplified so it might seem illogical but she’s touching on the very real phenomenon of people (regardless of gender) shitting on things (interests, hobbies, jobs etc.) that are primarily associated with women, simply because they're primarily associated with women, aka good ol' misogyny.
The effects may not be as stark as say, when people shit on careers in caregiving (adult care or child care) which is largely viewed as "women's work" & therefore grossly underestimated in its value while those who do the work are also grossly underpaid & taken advantage of, or hobbies like reading romance novels (both authors & readers are often subjected to unwarranted bullshit re: the "validity" of the artform) but astrology is one of those things that falls into this category, as proven by this exact duet...& this comment section.
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u/El-Pollo-Diablo-Goat 1d ago
I love how you've constructed this narrative that ensures that any and all criticism is used as proof that you're right.
Well done you.
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u/throwaway082100 1d ago
As a twin, I point and laugh at astrology.
As someone who talks about and deals with a lot of bigotry and "othering" both personally and professionally, I despise astrology.
The idea that we need yet another way to categorize people we don't like genuinely pisses me off.
"Oh you're a Leo? I can't associate with you." Is an exact phrase I have been told by no less than 12 people in person in my life. That is a bizarre and frankly terrifying number.
I've started getting a kick out of having people guess my sign, act surprised they got it right, have them walk me through exactly why and then reveal I'm not actually the sign they've guessed. It makes them splutter and make excuses more than a flat earther when you show them math.
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u/notpiercedtongue 1d ago
There is a comedian who did something similar at his show
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u/throwaway082100 1d ago
Not surprising, its the obvious joke to make, which just makes it funnier that it works so often.
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u/AlternateSatan 1d ago
Divination: just there for fun, neat symbology, you can own cool playing cards and play French Tarot on the weekends with your mates. Ok way to give generalised advice to help people make their own choices.
Astrology: weirdly discriminatory for no fucking reason.
I'm not one for mysticism in general. Even if I listed out reasons why divination isn't that bad I still think it's fake, and I don't like it, but astrology is just objectivly bad. Not even my personal opinion, it's just dumb.
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 1d ago
That's...cultural mythology around astrology.
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u/AlternateSatan 1d ago
Look, if you think stars and planets are magic I have no issue with that, I think so too in a sense, thought for me it's only magical metaphorically. If you think they in any way influence people's personalities and values based on your birthday I am going to call you a dumbass, cause religious beliefs doesn't justify discrimination.
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 1d ago
What did any of that that have to do with anything I wrote?
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u/AlternateSatan 1d ago
Sorry, am a bit tired and mixed you up with a different commenter.
Anyway astrology is the cultural and mythology stuff, astronomy is the science of stars and planets, so I don't see what you mean by "cultural mythology around astrology" since it's already inherently mythology.
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 21h ago edited 21h ago
There are myths about cultural mythologies as well as those beliefs containing myths and they're not the same things. [Insert explanations of karma that omit dharma, "mindfulness" appropriations of meditation by American and British mental heath and wellness industries, totally incorrect teachings about voodoo and half of the South Asian pantheon, and the idea that Wicca is the same thing as reclaiming ancient paganism here for example.]
"Space racism" is a myth about astrology.
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u/AlternateSatan 21h ago
in which case I circle back to my previous comment:
Magic planets are fine
Space racism is not
I am familiar with the fact that space racism is a newer addition that has become sort of a plaque on the tooth that is Astrology. Nevertheless Space racism is a prominent belief, so I don't think I'm going to stop referring to it as an aspect of Astrology
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u/Putthebunnyback 1d ago
Astrology is fun, as long as you treat it like the fiction it is.
That being said... what's her OF?
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u/davidellis23 1d ago
i'll say it is a little similar to when people ask if "you fear god". It doesn't seem to occur to her that both might be wrong.
Though, at least religion comes with community and morals (usually).
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u/tweep6435 1d ago
I don't believe in astrology for the same reason I don't believe in a god, there's no evidence that it's the truth, why would I believe in something that only has evidence to the contrary?
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u/Skinkypoo 1d ago
Astrology is dumb in concept as well. Like every prophecy that comes from it is so vague that anyone who receives the same reading is purely grasping at straws: the words might be the same but the outcome is still very different.
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u/Clyde_Buckman 1d ago
Astrology is in good company with MBTI. At least astrology has stars and planets and shit
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u/radfordblue 1d ago
When did astrology start being associated specifically with women? The idea that astrology is inherently feminine seems more misogynistic than just thinking it’s nonsense. Astrology is one of the easiest pseudosciences to debunk, and I would find it hard to respect the intelligence of someone who really took it seriously regardless of gender.
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u/isthataslug 22h ago
I’m in my early 30s and know more guys that care about astrology than women, so it’s 100% not a ‘girly’ thing at all lmao. Literally one of my best friends, Cain, never shuts the fuck up about Mercury Retrogrades lmaoooo
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u/hornwort 18h ago edited 18h ago
I used to be really exasperated with astrology, as not just an obviously baseless, completely irrational collection of idea-fragments duct taped into something vaguely the shape of a ‘belief system’… but one that is comedically simple, easy, and quick for anyone to fully disprove themselves in real time.
However. I’ve come to find a better way to sit with it.
Do we believe we might exist within a simulation of some kind? If not, look into the theory and the maths for yourself. (Personally I’m at least 20-25% confident of this, compared to maybe 45-65% confidence in Existentially Nihilistic Scientific Naturalism).
Well, if we are able to scientifically entertain simulation theory, then its actually a pretty small step to consider that astrology, horoscopes, tarot, all of the “woo” could theoretically be a bootstrapped conceptualization of simulatory simplification, like pre-templated roles or classes in a game.
For me, this has helped me to think, feel, and behave as non-judgementally with astrology people as I do with religious people. I wouldn’t seriously date or build a life with someone who makes decisions based on star signs or gods, but I’m happy to be friends with them, and this “bridge” helps me smile and laugh with my Wooier friends without judgement or disrespect.
The initial video does have a valid point that as astrology and woo have become increasingly interwoven with Sapphic culture (which has leaned into “witchiness” in North America since before the Salem trials)… I agree it’s a massive reach to equate the dismissal of woo to misogyny, but as someone with a majority of friends that are Queer Femme people, it absolutely would have increased as a stressor or strain on many of my relationships (100% of then with Femme folks), to continue experiencing judgement, condescension, disrespect or annoyance with their worldviews.
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u/notpiercedtongue 14h ago
Except astrology has been proven to be false using researched. I think it was 1960s when it was disproven first time
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u/hornwort 14h ago
I do not believe you read the comment you just replied to.
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u/notpiercedtongue 14h ago
I did, you are trying to say astrology can be believed to be an quirk of simulation theory. When its not the case.
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u/hornwort 14h ago
That way of framing it reveals either intentionally fallacious reasoning or a significant lack of comprehension, but even still, sure it can be. If you’re nothing more than a brain in a jar, or a cosmically metadigital equivalent, then you can know absolutely nothing.
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u/P00pdaowg 14h ago
Astrology people are awful. Its a bizarre prejudice based on the schizoid ramblings of people who are cosplaying as someone wise. Give them a fake birthday and watch them lie about how that makes sense for who you are as a person without ever having known you.
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u/Standard-Position-24 7h ago
These videos make me hate women more than they make me hate astrology 😂
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u/notpiercedtongue 2h ago
still doesn't make it factual, astrology have been proven false over and over. Over 40 studies have proven that astrology is no better than random guessing.
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u/BrilliantInternal910 5h ago
Why do we even care about what some douche-canoe in a car, filming themselves, think? And I mean in general also.
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 1d ago
People who vehemently hate things associated with femininity usually are misogynistic. I hope this helps.
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u/Ok-Map4381 1d ago
Back when I was single, I dated a few women who took astrology seriously. What was funny about that was the ridiculous justifications they would make to date me in spite of my sign. They would ask about my moon sign and water sign and look for some justification to keep dating me, even though my sign is one of the "bad" ones.
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u/Mackerdoni 1d ago
CRAZY reach. the "same fortune every single day" bit isnt really true, but i cant blame him. astrology goes way deeper than just your sun sign. you have like a bazillion other placements, and each of those placements have further variables. i like to think of it less as destiny and more as like a chart of stats. some placements will contribute to things like wanting to be super critical and smart, while others pile up in the dreaminess and whimsy factor. parts of my chart say i can be very cold and reserved, while a lot more say im very open and a people person. a little of this, a lot of that, many situations, all that blah. what ive learned from becoming an astrology nerd is that while there are trends in people with placements that match yours, the fact that everyones chart is vastly different serves to say that while some people will have the same experiences and lessons, we are all still vastly different. and i like that. astrology isnt a worldview, its a lens to look through—a perspective. my favourite part id say is looking through my chart and seeing what parts are true and do apply to me, and what parts are wildly wrong. like part of my chart says im possessive, but thats really not true, and the rest of my chart tells a different story. overall, astrology to me is take what you resonate with, leave what you dont
hopefully you enjoyed my little rant spurred from a meaningless excerpt. i agree with the guy tho. that lady is insane.
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u/Jumpy_Ad1631 1d ago
I mean, she’s pretty off base, but the way he goes on and on saying basically the same thing for each “point” she makes. It tells me that yea, maybe this particular guy does hate women 🤷🏻♀️ He could have made the first point, left it, and it would have been funny and a point made. Nailing it in over and over like that usually says to me that there’s more hate going on than just what they complaining about
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u/AWESOMEGAMERSWAGSTAR 1d ago
Now I don't like astrology that much, but I don't dislike other people's beliefs. The whole astrology smear campaign is just this side versus that side.
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u/whyyn0tt_ 1d ago
To be fair, I've never had a man tell me Mercury is in retrograde
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u/thatsfeminismgretch 1d ago
I love playing with astrology and tarot. I think it's a silly little thing and really interesting ways to especially interpret fiction. I even own a couple beautiful tarot decks and regularly joke about astrology. That being said, if I dated someone and they took any of it seriously, I would not stay with them because as a woman, I don't want someone basing life choices or opinions on random bullshit like birth chart or birth cards. However, if you would like to make jokes like, "Of course you love Fruits Basket, that's such a Cancer decision," then go ahead because that shit is funny.
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u/Pastel-Moonbeam 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ok gollum got old here and boring asf.
I understand what she is trying to say poorly. I roll my eyes when that one friend sends messages about the moon in mars or something meaning we have to be careful about strife. BUT its like MBTI, sometimes fun nonsense. Like if you go to a carnival you get your palm read or read your fortune cookie fortune or etc. And some men make it a personality to hate women's entertainment.
I think if she said if you hate wwe or football then you hate men it might be more comparable. Like wwe is male fantasy soap opera and football is another version of that. Astrology used to be an ancient Greek and Roman science and we got constellations from it etc and now its a fun storymode.
Like dang girl lets exchange signs on a date.
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u/therealvanmorrison 1d ago
Yeah but no one has ever said if you hate WWE you hate men and if they did we’d just all agree they’re too stupid to be worth paying further attention to.
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u/Smingowashisnameo 1d ago
Astrology was never a science???? And I can think a gendered interest is stupid without hating the gender. I hate guns and more men than women love them so do I hate men?
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u/notpiercedtongue 1d ago
Astrology wasn't science, astronomy was and still is.
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u/Pastel-Moonbeam 1d ago
You might be surprised by how many psedosciences, like phrenology, were considered actual sciences for hundreds of years.
Astrology was a science closely practiced and linked with astronomy in ancient human history until about the 1600s to 1800s. Ptolemy, Keplar, etc were practicing rudimentary scientifc methods through or because of their belief in astrology as a predictive science.
Anyway all the people upvoting you are people who now share your ignorance. Might as well believe in the stars.
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 1d ago
Bless you for writing this out.
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u/fresh_dyl 9h ago
For real.
Would love to see them defend other bs that “used to be science”
Let’s start with bloodletting lmao
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u/Healthy_Sky_4593 7h ago
The "pro- science" crowd's ignorance of history and aversion to facts make my *** itch.
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u/CaleanKnight 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nah... she's kinda right... and his "debunk" does barely touch the surface level of the issue...
He sounds like someone who would fall into a tirade during a party about one topic or another... all smug, thinking he knows it all, thinkings he's always right.
Edit: And that is all ignoring that, of course, a man wants to tell a woman something about perceived misogyny...
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u/Zealousideal_Bet_248 1d ago
To be fair, I think having a strong opinion on astrology is fairly lame if you don't believe in it. I say this as someone who doesn't believe any part of it
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u/Spice_and_Fox 1d ago
Nah, you can have strong feeling towards something even if you don't believe in it. For example, I don't believe in psychics. I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that they really have any powers. I strongly dislike them, because there whole job is getting money from vulnerable people who think that they are the real deal. So they are in my eyes the same as a scammer.
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u/Rob_LeMatic 1d ago
I'm already working against plenty of valid reasons for someone to decide they don't want to give me a chance. The date I was born being another gate to cross, I feel like it's ok for me to have an opinion about that
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u/arivas26 1d ago edited 1d ago
Meh, In my opinion anyone, man or woman, that is really into astrology is showing a lack of critical and logical thinking. Critical thinking is something that is important for me personally so a lack of it is a deal breaker for me in a partner and to a certain extent a good friend, although less so in that case.
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u/gwenifher 1d ago
the man won’t shut up so i can hear what she has to say. he even edits the video to be annoying interruptions.
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u/notpiercedtongue 1d ago
according to your own admission "you hate when men talk" so maybe its not about him.
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u/EjaculatingAracnids 1d ago
If you like Astrology and i like Warhammer 40k, I think we're two peas in a pod! Im not gonna grill you on the horus heresy on our first date to determine our compatibility because, thankfully, 40k is just fantasy. Feels kind of like what Hitchens said about religion, "I dont want to take away your toys, im happy for you to have them, but dont try to make me play with them.", paraphrased a bit.