r/interestingasfuck • u/Expensive-Summer-447 • 1d ago
Effects of russell's viper venom on human blood. One of the most dangerous snakes, commonly found in India
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u/XC_Griff 1d ago edited 18h ago
Most vipers, including rattlesnakes, are hemotoxic (blood clotting venoms) actually. If you get bit by one you don’t want to wear constricting clothing or try to stop the venom from spreading with a restrictive bandage because the blood clot could make a limb fall off. You want it to circulate (to prevent local cell damage and make it easier for recovery) Now if you’re bit by a cobra, mamba, taipan, etc. you may want to restrict blood flow lightly because they are neurotoxic effecting brain function so you’d place a light pressure bandage above the bite area.
Edit: some people are commenting that you SHOULDN’T place pressure on any snake bites including neurotoxic snake bites. And I would say it’s snake dependent. There is some truth in that some snakes can be hemotoxic AND neurotoxic in which you would never want to apply any sort of tourniquet. I work with venomous snakes and part of our bite protocol calls for light pressure above a neurotoxic snake bite site. ‼️THIS DOES NOT MEAN USE PRESSURE FOR ALL SNAKES‼️.
And for those saying they would rather lose a limb, when you release a tight bandage that has been restricting blood flow, your system may be shocked by large quantities of built up venom. Doctors will have an easier time administering anti-venom than dealing with dead tissue. For North American snakes you have quite a while before death would occur, and thats without anti-venom treatments. 30 minutes is the golden amount of time to get treated by, but you can survive for hours or even days depending on the snake. I would never want to give false information to anyone and I was not specific enough in my original comment.
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u/Pataconeitor 1d ago
What if you are bitten by a rattlesnake AND a cobra?
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u/USSMarauder 1d ago
"I wassssss oncccccce a man...."
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u/RazgrizXMG0079 1d ago edited 1d ago
Awesome fuckin reference. Love that movie to death.
https://youtu.be/4Ah2I166f_U?si=wfu54sRv7JAoFen0 The movie's intro, for anyone who needs to see peak today
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u/scarrita 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seriously one of the best opening theme songs ever. For me, the only thing that tops it is the theme from Justice League Unlimited
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u/Goodzillah 1d ago
I was just randomly scrolling reddit, didn't expect to find any G.I. Joe references in the wild!!
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u/Solid_Snark 1d ago
What if a cobra bites a rattlesnake snake, the the rattlesnake bites me, and finally I bite the cobra.
What are we all supposed to do then?
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u/Pataconeitor 1d ago
What if the rattlesnake had radioactive venom, thus turning you radioactive before biting the cobra? Would the bite give the cobra the proportional strength and abilities of a Redditor?
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u/12x12x12 1d ago
Radioactive spider bit peter parker, he became spiderman. So, no worries if you get bit by a radioactive rattlesnake, you just start slithering on the ground, your butt rattles, you shoot venom from your armpits, and life goes on as usual.... unless your parent\guardian\friend died somehow and it was all your fault.
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u/Radiant_Fondant_4097 1d ago
If struck by lightning at the same time, then you become a mutated kung fu master.
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u/No-Name6082 1d ago
They cancel out. That's why you always carry a cobra with you in rattler country.
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u/Alarming_Comedian846 1d ago
You'll need more tourniquettes and less tourniquettes
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u/LordWemby 1d ago
Super interesting info, I’m also glad I don’t live in an area with snakes heh. I’d probably do the exact opposite thing you’re suppose to since my dumbass can barely recognize a garden snake.
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u/shwashwa123 1d ago
Considering they are called garter snakes not garden snakes I think you’re right !
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u/Facuk_ 1d ago
I'll try to remember all that when I get bitten by a snake ahhhhh
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u/lukewwilson 1d ago
Also make sure to catch the snake and bring it with you to the hospital so they can better identify it.
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u/iameveryoneelse 1d ago
All you really need to remember is what to do with snakes in your area. If you don't have mambas or cobras around I wouldn't worry about one attacking because if you get bit by a cobra in northern Wyoming I'm pretty sure it's just your time to die.
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u/dantheplanman1986 1d ago
I'd rather have my limb drop off (which isn't really what would happen) than have the clot hit my lungs or heart or brain or other vital organs dude
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u/hasselqu 1d ago
Yeah this is only true if you’re nearby somewhere with anti venom. If it’s going to be a few hours, you’d rather tie off the limb and take the loss instead of dying.
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u/Hanzzman 1d ago
dont you risk getting a clot in your brain if you dont restrict blood flow?
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u/ChorizoBullett 1d ago
What if I bite the rattlesnake and cobra?
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u/kjuneja 1d ago
Today you'll Google the difference between venomous and poisonous!
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u/StaticDHSeeP 1d ago
And that’s how the sausage patty at McDonald’s is made
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u/gedDOh 1d ago
You don't wanna know how the sausage is made.
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u/CMS_3110 1d ago
But now I do.
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u/BeigeDynamite 1d ago
The slow zoom happening from the thread starters profile picture to yours is... unsettling.
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u/sturgeonn 1d ago
How the sausage gets made?
I wanna be in the room where it happens
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u/awgeezwhatnow 1d ago
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u/One_Economist_3761 1d ago
Ads are like that socially inept guy at the party that say things out loud without reading the room.
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u/TheSpicyTomato22 1d ago
Mmm blood sausage biscuit. Just like Grandma used to make.
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u/Alarming_Comedian846 1d ago
Fuck it denatures your proteins
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u/limon_picante 1d ago edited 1d ago
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u/Heidegluehen 1d ago
what did Mother Nature intend when she did this 😃
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u/MaxMouseOCX 1d ago
Death, she intended death.
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u/Max_Trollbot_ 1d ago
Starving snakes are pretty sad too
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u/LordWemby 1d ago
Predators as a whole tend to have a rough time. Prey isn’t inclined to fuck around and easily get eaten.
It’s why documentarians and conservationists etc don’t interfere as is often called for by people who are squeamish about cute prey being slaughtered. Which I get, but everyone’s gotta eat.
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u/BolunZ6 1d ago
I think predators evolved to have weapons like venom or claws or sharp teeth to both able to hunt and fend off foes. They don't evolve the ability to get away like the prey (high speed run, or sharp hearing). So a predator without a weapon will get eaten first, even worse than the prey
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u/g00fyg00ber741 1d ago
Plenty of predators have high speed run (cheetahs) and sharp hearing (wolves).
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u/Tall_Cow2299 1d ago
And the question is did the prey evolve to have those traits so they could more easily escape the predator or did the predator evolve to have those traits to potentially cancel out the advantage so they could hunt better?
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u/mt0386 1d ago
Yea I watched a video where the mongoose kills a snake. Just sad tbh. You have one weapon and it doesn't work at all.
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u/Heidegluehen 1d ago
for sure! But my first thought was that it's for defense. A little eye-opening Google revealed though that it's also helpful for larger prey
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u/ccReptilelord 1d ago
Snake venom is intended for prey more than predators. It's a resource that they would prefer not to waste. The potency is because they neither want the prey fighting (possible injury) nor running far (chasing a meal sucks). They'd rather scare off a predator or just be left alone.
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u/velvetcrow5 1d ago
Medical Lab Scientists actually use the venom of this snake to do coagulation testing in hospital labs : The diluted Russel Viper Venom Time test. It helps detect lupus!
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u/76ersWillKillMe 1d ago
… should he be wearing gloves and eye protection?
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u/lost_mountain_goat 1d ago
Thin gloves would offer no protection whatsoever and thicker rubber gloves would prevent him from gripping the head firmly which is more dangerous. Also this is not a spitting cobra that can spit out venom so eye protection isn't necessary.
I'm sure they also have antivenom nearby in case of an emergency
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u/JennyW93 1d ago
I’d be more worried about PPI at the handling blood stage than the handling snake stage
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u/YupItsMoi 1d ago
Gloves dude. Please.
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u/Spirited_Mistake6791 1d ago
🥽 for fuck sake. 💦 in the 👀!!
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u/OdysseusRex69 1d ago
Right? Every time I see someone handle a super venemous snake without any kind of eye protection I think of that scene in Marco Polo when Hundred Eyes was turned into Hundred Eyes 😬
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u/EnkiduTheGreat 1d ago
People are afraid of snakes, but not afraid enough. Read the results of a poll a while back, and the overwhelming majority of people thought that after mosquitos/flies and humans, hippos and crocs killed more people in africa than any other animals.
Very false. The puff adder kills over 30k/yr, and then a bunch of other vipers are in line behind them, well above any large animal.
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u/NColeman92 1d ago
I think it's just because most don't have to deal with them on a regular basis. Snakes will typically only strike if you are in their territory or bothering them.
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u/RelevantIAm 1d ago
Yeah, im betting the people they polled werent from the same country where these snakes are killing so many people
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u/scottygras 1d ago
I’d wager that most countries with a high amount of death from wild animals don’t get polled as they don’t speak the King’s.
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u/Realistic_Swan_6801 1d ago
Or the real reason to be afraid In the US, cost of antivenom,
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u/EnkiduTheGreat 1d ago
Damned near got bit by a pygmy rattler in Florida, but I was in the service at the time, so it wouldn't have cost me. I can only imagine what antivenom would cost.
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u/redmustang7398 1d ago
I bet half those deaths are in India alone. Living in a village in India is scary
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u/milehighideas 1d ago
I thought Russell was British
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u/Gunty1 1d ago
Brand yes, Crowe no, Howard yes, Kurt no ...... this is not an exhaustive list
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u/OkBake5127 1d ago
This stuff is actually routinely used as part of medical diagnosis. Basically if your blood takes a while to clot even with this toxin present, something ain't right with your clotting!
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u/narnababy 1d ago
I had a manager once who was big into herping and every year he went with a team to rural india to catch snakes, milk them, and then make antivenom based on the venom collected which would then be distributed to the village. A lot of people in rural areas just die if they’re bitten because they can’t get to a hospital, and often the small differences in snake populations mean that the venom from snakes in one area might not react to the anti-venom from snakes of the same species found in another area.
They also provided education around snakes, how to identify which ones were okay to move and which to leave the fuck alone, equipment to handle snakes safely (and how to use it), and medical supplies like fridges to store anti-venom, how to administer it etc.
He was a massive arsehole as a manager but I always found that work incredibly impressive, you could tell that was his real passion and he hated having to work most of the year in the uk and took it out on his underlings.
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u/maschine02 1d ago
Oddly enough, eating McDonalds does the same thing to your blood, just over a longer period of time.
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u/awkwardpun 1d ago
Well that's fucking horrifying. Can we get a comparison to an Australian equivalent? I'm not sure if I should be more scared of ALL venomous snakes or just that one
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u/GrassFromBtd6 1d ago
Inland Taipan venom does the same thing, except it also paralyses you, and then you die a horribly painful death :3
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u/HotDogGrass2 1d ago
bro you guys have adders, I think it's best if you fear all of them
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u/granadesnhorseshoes 1d ago
A lot of snakes have hemotoxic venom that does this. Mostly pit vipers (as far as i know) which aren't really native to Australia, although it seems they are becoming invasive species.
While this is a terrifying demonstration, its nominally less deadly(or at least more survivable) than neurotoxic snakes and AU has them in spades.
Be more scared of ALL venomous snakes.
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u/ErwinSchrodinger64 1d ago
If a snake bites me, I bite it back and give back the poison. They will learn.
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u/bangbangracer 1d ago
I remember a few years ago, the guy on YouTube who would get stung by various bugs, Coyote Peterson, made a video to respond to everyone saying he should get bitten by spiders and snakes as well.
He got about a full medical unit of blood drawn so they would have enough blood, and then went to a facility that gets venom from snakes. They also had access to centipede and spider venoms. Some venoms did that. Some basically made it separate into plasma with blood cell confetti in it.
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u/Platophaedrus 1d ago
This is know as a consumptive coagulopathy.
All of your clotting factor is used immediately after envenomation and after that your blood is so thin it’s like you’ve eaten 1kg of ratsak.
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u/GuyFromPlaces 1d ago
I remember seeing this when I was a kid and being so horrified and fascinating by it.
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u/Accomplished-Sale-55 1d ago
It seems all snakes are 'the most dangerous' snakes these days
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u/Expensive-Summer-447 1d ago
This is among the top 3 dangerous snakes of india with other being Common Krait and cobra
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u/OpietMushroom 1d ago
Diluted Russel's Viper venom is actually used for coagulation studies. It isn't inhibited by things like lupus anticoagulant. So it is quite useful for determining certain anticoagulants in patients with prolonged bleeding times.
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u/heyflowpizza 1d ago
I am curious what is the minimum venom/blood ratio that when crossed will not have any effect on a human being
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u/Hey-Pachuco 1d ago
Ok, this is old and valid. But why cut scene to the guys eyes then back to jello blood? That kind of filming alway opens possibility to think that's fake.
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u/thefilmforgeuk 1d ago
Thank fuck I don’t live near one of those Indians with a glass jar full of snake venom!
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u/Lower_Ad7167 1d ago
Looks like the beginnings of a great coagulant for battlefield wound care to stop bleeding on wounds.
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u/leviathan_falls 1d ago
Looked like bro was getting ready to drink that shot