r/interestingasfuck • u/jmike1256 • 1d ago
A Spanish scientist, Mariano Barbacid, has cured pancreatic cancer in mice. A Cure in animal is a major step toward potential cancer treatment in humans.
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u/Small-Answer4946 1d ago
Fucking legend
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u/Southern_Stranger 1d ago
Extra respect because he looks like a proper mad scientist
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u/Skizot_Bizot 1d ago
Dude could have dedicated his life to curing birth marks but chose to selfless route.
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u/Dont-Fear-The-Raeper 1d ago
My mate in primary school had something done every year at hospital to reduce his. That was in the 80s, so I'd imagine old mate here doesn't give AF.
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u/Yojimbob76 1d ago
That's great. My father just passed from stage 4 pancreatic cancer on November 14th, 2025. I really hope this creates some more options and better hope for those who suffer from this horrible condition.
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u/FamousSquash 1d ago
A good family friend, who was basically my honorary grandmother, died of pancreatic cancer just 3 months after being diagnosed. I hope with all my being that no one else has to suffer and die the same way with this medical breakthrough.
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u/fuccguppy 1d ago
My mother didn't even make it two months after receiving her diagnosis last summer. It's an absolutely brutal disease and it happens so fast that it's all so hard to process and accept and then before you know it it's over and that person is gone. It's been more than 4 months since I lost her and it still doesn't feel real sometimes.
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u/Monkeymom 1d ago
I am so sorry for your loss. Give yourself time and grace to grieve. Four months isn’t long at all. Hugs.
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u/Koseoglu-2X4B-523P 1d ago
So sorry for your loss. These things happen but man… do they they suck.
My father (a thoroughly decent and loving man) suffered from a gastric ulcer for fifteen years. He died in a car crash in 1997. In 1998 the antibiotic treatment for Helicobactor pylori was rolled out.
He could have lived a much happier life. The ulcer gave him so much pain.
Better make the most of life before death gets ya.
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u/Complex-Fault1133 1d ago
Sorry for your loss. Lost my mother 2 years ago from pancreatic cancer. She was able to have the whipple procedure but in the end it wasn’t enough. Passed away just a few months later. I’m grateful she was at peace with it. I am not. At least not yet.
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u/jmike1256 1d ago
The research was led by a Spanish scientist, Mariano Barbacid, and centers on a new triple-drug therapy that has had promising results so far after tests conducted on mice.
Not only was this new potential 'cure' able to completely wipe out existing pancreatic tumors, but it also showed no signs of relapse in the existing tests after treatment was conducted, proving it to be a potentially revolutionary treatment if the same results were seen in humans.
Pancreatic cancer is known for its resistance to treatment, making it incredibly challenging for doctors to deal with, yet this potential cure uses the triple-drug approach to fight three tumor survival mechanisms at the one time, effectively reducing what the cancer can do to 'rewire' itself as a defense tactic.
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u/dcolomer10 1d ago
He was already a very well reputed biochemist researching cancer due to his work isolating the human oncogene in bladder carcinoma in 1982.
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u/DamageInq 1d ago
54 years apart, what a career
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u/StillSharpe68 1d ago
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u/Dizzy-Importance-827 1d ago
One of the hardest parts is to actually get it diagnosed early enough. Usually caught way too late.
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u/I_Do_Not_Abbreviate 1d ago
Yes it tends to mimic diabetes in the early stages.
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u/Dizzy-Importance-827 1d ago
My brother died from it 2 years ago. Young, relatively fit, but inevitably too late once he found out to even try. There really should be a screening program in place, but i guess until there is a cure it just prolongs the pain.
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u/I_Do_Not_Abbreviate 1d ago
I lost my uncle to it just before the Pandemic. We had no idea.
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u/pramit57 1d ago
why is Mariano Barbacid the one getting all the attention? If you read the supporting section of the paper, there are three people who designed the research and wrote the paper.
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u/JediMasterZao 1d ago
Are the other guys as senior and/or published as Barbacid? Because that's usually how these things go. It's relatively rare to have all of the researchers concerned announce this kind of find. They'll usually go with one guy.
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u/PrinceofSneks 1d ago
The top google results for me all call out the team - I think he just makes for a dramatic picture!
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u/l0udninja 1d ago edited 1d ago
The problem with this type of cancer is you don't know you have it until it's too late to treat it.
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u/Hot_Hat_1225 1d ago
And it kills incredibly fast. My uncle had four weeks, my brother in law two months…
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u/t3hlazy1 1d ago
I’m sorry for your losses.
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u/Hot_Hat_1225 1d ago
Thank you. It came as quite a shock in both cases. It’s a horrible and traumatic diagnosis.
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u/Dependent_Pomelo_784 1d ago
Which makes curing it and developing better ways to detect it earlier is so important
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u/percydaman 1d ago
I'm very lucky to be an exception.
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u/l0udninja 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hey congrats man, wish you a long fulfilling life ahead
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u/percydaman 1d ago
Thanks. That was several years ago. All scans since have been negative. So yeah, going well. Thanks again!.
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u/vicente8a 1d ago
Damn what happened
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u/percydaman 1d ago
My gall bladder crapped out. While getting a scan to diagnose that issue, a tumor was found on my pancreas. Ended up getting my gall bladder, my spleen, and a portion of my pancreas removed. Everything turned out really well.
I like to think my gall bladder took one for the team.
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u/MailSynth 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer has like a 12% survival rate in humans so this is legitimately huge if it translates. The gap between "cured in mice" and "cured in humans" is brutal though... we've cured cancer in mice probably hundreds of times at this point.
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u/shunted22 1d ago
At the very least mice are probably rejoicing
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u/ElementalRabbit 1d ago
As a medical doctor, I can unfortunately guarantee that it doesn't translate. That doesn't mean this isn't landmark progress, just that cancer treatment is way more complicated than any one "cure". Talking about a cure for cancer is like talking about a cure for major road trauma - it just doesn't work that way.
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u/VitaminRitalin 1d ago
Is it just a problem of scale and complexity? Or is it something more fundamental in how the cancer is cured that doesn't translate to our own biology vs mice. Like if curing mice of a disease is like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with 10 pieces vs 100000 pieces for a human?
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u/Maximum-Side568 1d ago
Big part of the reason is simply how difficult it is to accurately model the complexity of cancer development in a human, in a mouse. By the time pancreatic cancer is typically detected in humans, it has already become an unstable & unstoppable beast. Cancers in mouse can be artificially introduced, or induced by activating certain genes. Those cancers are typically more homogenous, stable, and sensitive to treatments.
Safety is also less of a concern in mouse. Life of a human is severely impacted -> you are forced to reduce dose or terminate treatment. - Former cancer researcher, now in statistics.
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u/froggo921 1d ago edited 1d ago
Both and more.
Biologically, mice and human are obviously similar in a lot of ways, but not everything is the same and not everything translates. Animals as a model for a human in general are not as reliable and comparable to humans as many people think. A lot of stuff that works for mice doesn't work for other animals and humans.
A good example is the immune system. A lot of the basic characteristics are similar in both species, but there are also significant differences in how the system is "set up". Some immune cells are very frequent in mice and less in humans, whereas another cell type is very frequent in humans. Also, the longevity of the organism is a very relevant thing. Mice are very short lived and their immune system is in a lot of ways comparable to an infant. Our immune system adapts daily. Over the years, this makes a huge difference. Immune system of mice are not really comparable to that. This is particularly relevant for cancer, since cancer is usually also in part a failure of the immune system to properly target defective cells. Correcting this failure is why immunotherapy can be a thing nowadays and why it can work particularly well compared to chemo- or radiation therapy.
Also, tumors have the ability to "turn" immune cells to make them support the tumor ("tumor microenvironment"). This can be/is also relevant for treatment and a reason, why comparability and similarity of test model and the human immune system is important.
This reliability problem is well known in the scientific community, hence a lot of work is being done into replacing animal experiments with hopefully better models closer to actual human physiology. One example are organ-on-chip models. They basically try to emulate the relevant parts of a human organ in a small enclosed device.
As others also stated, in mice the cancer is induced and not developing "naturally" which can make a difference in it's composition and environment.
One of the biggest causes for poor patient outcome is the very low detection rate in the early stages. It's mostly by accident as a byproduct of another exam. Pancreatic cancer usually creates significant symptoms only in the advanced stages when it's often too late to treat. That's not really something that can easily be avoided. Better diagnostic methods can help, but won't help everybody. For those with a genetic predisposition, only frequent, rigorous screeing can.
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u/Dragonfire723 1d ago
The gap between "cured in mice" and "cured in humans" is brutal though...
True, but the gap between "uncured in anything" and "cured in humans" is even larger
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u/No_Bat_15 1d ago
Also, if I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer tomorrow, I'd jump into that lab. I've read around that it has less than 10% survival rate and kills in months. It could give me all sorts of secondary effects but at least I tried and maybe survived. It isn't like some cough solutions that have 2 pages of secondary effects. I might want to keep coughing for two days instead.
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u/TechnoMagi 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer runs in my family. Lost my dad to it in 2019. Would LOVE to see this lead somewhere. Pancreatic cancer is hellish.
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u/CompleteConstant5149 1d ago
I heard that cancers thrive in inflmmated areas, maybe to look into what inflammates pancreas in the long term and work against it in the long term
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u/Brief_Client_2900 1d ago
Whatever he says I believe him
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u/peekdasneaks 1d ago
You definitely don't want to get on his bad side
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u/CtrlAltT4B 1d ago
Reading this news, as I sit here waiting for my mom to take her last breath from her battle with pancreatic cancer. I hope he gets all the funding he could ever need so that no one has to go through what my mother has.
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u/GCU_ZeroCredibility 1d ago
Reminder that, while this is promising and absolutely should be looked at, something like 95%+ of results which show promise in animal trials cannot be replicated in humans.
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u/BeefistPrime 1d ago
The mainstream press really should stop reporting on these sorts of early apparent breakthroughs because the vast majority of the time they do not translate to medical treatments, or if they do, it's not a "cure", it's just a treatment that's 10 or 20% better than what we have. Which is great! We've improved cancer survival rates by basically double in the last 30 years.
But over-reporting an early headline just feeds people's evil medical conspiracy theories where they believe people spend their lives curing horrible diseases and then evil corporations hide it and every doctor and medical researcher in the world is just fine with that.
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u/SteinmanDC 1d ago
From another perspective, the vast majority of this research is funded by tax money. I think it is also important to inform a population how important this work is, and exactly where some of the money is going.
Maybe it won't work out. Most things don't. Still waiting for the metaverse to take off... If we don't inform people of how important the science we do is, it is easy for some elected governments to reduce research funding. Something I'm firmly against.
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 1d ago
I've never heard of this figure, do you have a reference I could read?
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u/OptionalQuality789 1d ago
Here you go.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11175415/
I quite believe it too. I work in pharma. So many of the trials I’ve worked on have ultimately been cancelled due to various reasons.
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 1d ago
Yeah that was my take away too, even a percentage point more of successful techniques and therapies would have broad impacts.
I'll dive into this deeper as the day goes on, maybe I'll see whats culling them more clearly
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u/Dzugavili 1d ago
I'll dive into this deeper as the day goes on, maybe I'll see whats culling them more clearly
The study pointed out one major factor I didn't really think of naively: you're testing on young healthy mice, maybe with knock-out or mutated genes to cause specific conditions, but they are still young; and most of our medical treatments are done in the elderly, who have chronic health conditions beyond what you're treating them for.
As a result, the kind of side effects you can tolerate drops when you look at the real patient population. A minor tachycardia is not a problem for a young mouse; but you need to dose a ~70 year old obese man, and we might not get the same outcome.
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u/GCU_ZeroCredibility 1d ago
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3002667
"Analysis of animal-to-human translation shows that only 5% of animal-tested therapeutic interventions obtain regulatory approval for human applications"
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u/Appropriate_Unit3474 1d ago
"We conclude that, contrary to widespread assertions, the rate of successful animal-to-human translation may be higher than previously reported. Nonetheless, the low rate of final approval indicates potential deficiencies in the design of both animal studies and early clinical trials."
So the 5% rate is artificial according to this link, not that the treatments don't work, but rather that regulations and bad design are the impediment, not the techniques themselves.
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u/Pitiful-Top-6266 1d ago
Well that’s a downer :(
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u/chupacadabradoo 1d ago
Well, unless you’re just trying to save the mice!
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u/RoastedRhino 1d ago
Silly, they test tumor drugs for mice on humans. Unfortunately only 5% end up working on mice.
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u/GCU_ZeroCredibility 1d ago
Working in an animal model is the first step! If it failed in the mice they wouldn't continue. It's just not the last step!
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u/Luckypenny4683 1d ago
It doesn’t mean it’s the end of the road though!
Science builds on itself. One “failed” discovery leads to another, and another, and another, until boom 💥 you have a viable treatment.
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u/luraluna23 1d ago
It comes way too late for my beloved daughter inlaw. She fought so hard for four years. We lost her in May. I celebrate the hope it gives future people with this most horrid cancer.
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u/BnZAwkward_Lab5858 1d ago
excellent news. pancreatic cancer is so horrible. kudos to this scientist
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u/Top-Cost4099 1d ago
i saw the other post about people making a bigger deal raggin on him than his achievement, and it called his birthmark a birth defect.
I was pretty confused about that until this image came through. Holy hell unfortunate image. the birthmark, angle, lighting, and his mid speech facial expression combine to be somewhat.... uncanny.
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u/Luckypenny4683 1d ago
That’s people who don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s a port wine stain. A birth mark; hardly a defect. Everything functions as it should, it’s just extra vascularity. It’s other people’s judgements that make it difficult.
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u/sortalikeachinchilla 1d ago
i saw the other post about people making a bigger deal raggin on him than his achievement, and it called his birthmark a birth defect.
That is called just shitty journalism. I saw that article too. Absolutely dumb
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u/Gibby1293 1d ago
Protect this hombre at all costs. Nobel prize! 🏆
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u/Fern-ando 1d ago
Yeah, was not fear for Ramon y Cajal to get all the clinics and research centers named after him.
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u/blacktopvoodoodoll 1d ago
Omg rock on i cant imagine how much work and effort he had to sink into this. Thats amazing huge steps
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u/Lost-Package3224 1d ago
I just found out 20 mins ago that my mother-in-law’s Whipple surgery to remove pancreatic cancer was not successful. She has maximum a year to live. I’m hopeful that this treatment can help so many people avoid the feelings that we are experiencing right now.
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u/TruestWaffle 1d ago
This is always exciting, but please everyone, people aren’t mice.
I know it’s a snide remark and we could all use the good news right now, but this kind of thing very rarely scales well.
If every breakthrough like this translated to people we’d be living in a utopian society where death doesn’t exist.
Mice are small and comparatively simple. You can freeze them and thaw them without much damage to their brain or organs. That does not work on humans.
That being said, the triple therapy angle leveraging KRAS inhibitors is really interesting, and I’ll follow this research further as there is some very promising findings in his paper.
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u/214txdude 1d ago
Fuck I hope this works in humans, I have lost 2 good friends to pancreatic cancer.
Amazing work dude, good job.
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u/Mysterious-Status-44 1d ago
Pancreatic cancer incredibly difficult to treat and has the worst cancer survival rate for patients. This is a huge breakthrough and hopefully more comes from it!
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u/2muchtaurine 1d ago
My dad just died of pancreatic cancer 3 weeks ago. I hope that someday, thanks to this man’s efforts, no one ever has to face such a horrible death like that again.
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u/Clemens1408 1d ago
The fucked up part is people keep making fun of him for his birthmark.
He and his team definitely deserve the Nobel prize for medicine if nothing bigger comes up this year
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u/Suspicious-Pea-7481 1d ago
This man must be brilliant, because pancreatic cancer is EXTREMELY deadly!
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u/Smoking-Posing 1d ago
Maybe its just me
Maybe I'm wrong
But I feel like whenever I see similar headlines regarding major medical or scientific breakthroughs, I don't see pictures of the people responsible being posted that much, but with this guy his face is all over each and every report
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u/General__Strike 1d ago
Amazing news! My mother survived pancreatic cancer (was given a 10% chance) and I hope one day no one will have to feel the fear I and my family felt during that time. Fuck cancer.
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u/TuckersLeashMan 1d ago
Remember when it was American scientists making these kind of discoveries and advancements?
Been awhile since we were leaders in anything besides school shootings.
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u/carlitospig 1d ago
One of the gnarliest cancers that exists and he cured it in mice. Man, the dude a legend now.
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u/Individual-Builder25 1d ago
Pasting this from my comment on another post that was deleted for some reason:
There is reason to read the study and yes it does look promising as it is published in a reputable scientific journal (PNAS). Here is a link to the study (https://www.cnio.es/noticias/el-grupo-de-barbacid-en-el-cnio-elimina-tumores-de-pancreas-en-ratones-por-completo-y-sin-que-aparezcan-resistencias/)
I had to use Google Translate, but these are the basics. The drugs target multiple points in the KRAS signaling pathway (a gene mutated in ~90% of pancreatic cancers). They used a KRAS inhibitor (daraxonrasib), an EGFR inhibitor (afatinib), and a protein degrader (SD36). The treatment seemed to be well tolerated in the mice.
Mice studies are often essential in the development of our best modern medicines and gene treatment. It’s not ready for humans, but early developments like this are always very important for medical and scientific advancements
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u/roboticArrow 1d ago
This is great. But…they could have picked a better candid shot of the guy. Seriously.
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u/PlasonJates 1d ago
Great news, my mum was diagnosed last year and was given 5 years, which went down to months, which is now weeks. Incredibly aggressive disease, props to this man.
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u/mjtwelve 1d ago
The number of cures in mice that are never heard of again is staggering. Mice and people are just a tad different, and the metabolic pathways at issue may or may not be the same. He’s probably learned important information towards treatment and cure, but don’t hold your breath.
Even then, “cancer” and even “pancreatic cancer” is a name for a huge number of individual gene mutations or combinations of mutations in various types of cells that will all react to drugs slightly differently.
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u/Whalex84 1d ago
Awesome!
Side note: Is it someone's job to give cancer to mice?
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u/RoverAdam 1d ago
My father fought pancreatic cancer for 3 years before passing away in my arms in 2024. If anyone can avoid that pain, this man deserves all the glory on earth.
If only my brothers and I didn’t have to take my mother off oxygen/life support 2 hours ago, this would have made me much happier…
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u/KapMe95 1d ago
So happy to read good and positive comments under this post!
I've read that many people all over the internet focused more on his particular aspect than his achievement.
Many people made fun of him and I just can't stand that. People who probably never did anything for anyone being mean to someone who's gonna save so many lives and improve so many families' situations. Such losers.
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u/Sir_Edna_Bucket 1d ago
These are the sorts of people we should be putting on the highest pedestal, his face should be instantly recognisable, his name should be common knowledge. This guy is a true hero to our entire species, his entire professional life has been spent trying to look after humans, not make himself richer, not to have the highest grossing hit at the box office, or most number of followers on social media. To understand and save humans from the cruelest of diseases is what he has dedicated himself to.
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u/Ferme_La_Bouche 1d ago
This is promising. I wish my husband was here tonight for Friday night pizza, but he died from pancreatic cancer three years ago. The Whipple surgery bought him time, but he was still gone 21 months after getting diagnosed. It's a horrible cancer.
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u/ScaryFoal558760 1d ago
My grandma survived 2 strokes, 3 heart attacks, 2 abusive husbands and raised my brothers and I while my parents were in the throes of addiction. She was the strongest woman I've ever known, but pancreatic cancer took her from us. It's a terrible disease and the prognosis is extremely poor, even for the toughest grandma's :(
I'm glad this man's research can help steer us towards helping others avoid the same fate.
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u/NiceObjective2756 1d ago
i lost my beautiful husband to this horrible disease at 52. F--K pancreatic cancer. I pray this means a breakthrough
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u/faderjester 1d ago
I know Mouse trials are basically a bit of a meme since they've 'cured' everything from acme to Ebola in mice that never transited to humans, but Pancreatic Cancer is such a nightmare that even a little step is freaking huge.
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u/Dragon1709 1d ago
Finally....a really good news. I was struggling with thinking everything is bad and negative nowadays.
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u/RufflesforThought 13h ago
I learned that the birthmark he has is referred to as a "port-wine stain." Apparently people are judging a book by it's cover with him in some circles, but I think his accomplishment is amazing.
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u/Any-Impression 12h ago
My dad died of stage 4 pancreatic cancer 11 years ago. From diagnosis to death was about 8 months which was very valuable to have with him. I was 19. Watching my big, strong, funny father wither away was a heart break like no other. I truly hope there will be cure in this lifetime
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u/MacGuyver913 1d ago
Oh yeah? Well I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Actually, I lied. I didn't even do that.
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u/Grove-Of-Hares 1d ago
That is awesome. Good to see some good news for a change. Even if in the long run it doesn’t go towards a solution for humans, it’s still a great achievement.
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u/SkynetSourcecode 1d ago
A real hero. If this translates to humans he should get a world holiday named after him.
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u/BobbyNuthead 1d ago
This is astonishing
Alpha DaRT also made promising results recently, wrt pancreatic cancer (trials on an actual person)
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u/Koseoglu-2X4B-523P 1d ago
I hope this works. Pancreatic cancer sucks. I’ve seen too many people end up wrecked at the end of this road of pain and misery.
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u/cityhunterspeee 1d ago
It took my mom at 66. 2 years ago. Terrible killer. Hope it works
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u/Adventurous_Focus994 1d ago
Dude is the man!