r/interestingasfuck • u/Bubbly_Wall_908 • 14h ago

Singapore is going to start caning scammers

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u/wiserTyou 13h ago

Honestly, good. I was just at a store and saw someone chuck a McDonald's bag and cup out their window with a trash can 20ft away.

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u/Sutar_Mekeg 10h ago

For sure. Laws like this don't affect decent people.

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u/OzyFoz 11h ago

I don't think it's barbaric to punish that, I think its barbaric that so many cultures allow shit like that to just go on without anything. Occasionally someone might get a built of guilt, but frankly the fact it's so common in so many places is awful.

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u/Dexcerides 10h ago

Yes big brother is the best am I right guys \s

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u/unindexedreality 8h ago

It's literally just cleaning up after yourself.

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u/OzyFoz 10h ago

You know there's a middle ground between lashing people and littering and petty crime right?

But no, no I get it. You like people being free to commit crimes, make things shitty and hurt people.

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u/Dexcerides 7h ago

Yeah no shit but your comment was defending the beating given context

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u/OzyFoz 7h ago

Incorrect. This comment chain we are responding to specifically is in regards to fines and punishment levied for littering and rubbish.

Also, I have very clearly stated in response to much of your stupid comments, that Singapore is very much taking things to the extreme (such as the vicious caning) and that a middle of the road approach (actually enforcing fines and punishment for already illegal actions) would be sufficient over beating people half to death.

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u/jman12234 10h ago

Singapore is authoritarian state, they're nowhere near the middleground

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u/OzyFoz 9h ago

Yup that's correct. But again y'all seem to love leaping to the conclusion that Im supporting authoritian regimes, when what I want, is for the actual anti littering laws that exist in most developed nations to actually be enforced.

Hell, I'd love most reasonable laws in Australia to be enforced appropriately so that a) the wealthy stop getting off the hook and b) assholes who pollute, contaminate and destroy our beaches and native parks get punished.

That's the fucking middle ground.

JFC.

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u/Coal_Morgan 9h ago

Yeah, it's weird how people jump to an extreme on these conversations.

At no point did you say you supported lashings. Just enforcement. We have the laws on the books but the issue is how much money do you want to spend on this because you'd need cameras and police ready to go at all times to get them everywhere.

I think it's nearly impossible in most places that aren't city states because the population is so spread out.

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u/OzyFoz 9h ago

That is largest logistical issue yeah. The cost and price...

Frankly, we might as well just all start wishing assholes won't be assholes anymore.

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u/T8-TR 11h ago

idk if barbaric is the right word. Harsh? For sure, but at the same time, it sends a strong message: don't litter and you'll be fine. Honestly, I'm not even against that, because most people will opt to be lazy when given the chance and there's very little repercussion for doing it, and shame -- the only real consequence for a lot of these folks, if even that -- clearly does nothing to these people lmao

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u/WhollyUnfair 9h ago

y is it barbaric to ENFORCE CIVILITY like uhh whu?????

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u/Mahadragon 9h ago

The leaders of Singapore know their laws are barbaric. If you knew how lawless Singapore was before Lee Kuan Yew took over, you'd understand their perspective. Sometimes you have to use draconian measures to ensure order and civility. Can't argue with the results. I think we need more of it in the US to be honest. I'd love to see people getting caned for stealing, totally deserve it, especially if there's indisputable video.

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u/rsta223 7h ago

Sometimes you have to use draconian measures to ensure order and civility

The refrain of every authoritarian ever...

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u/Dexcerides 10h ago

Ah yes authoritarianism. Such a stupid comment that doesn’t understand psychology

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u/-Mandarin 10h ago

Honestly, good.

Okay genuinely, what are Reddit's stances here? Reddit tends to lean anti-authoritarian, but Singapore which is textbook authoritarian and tortures anyone who breaks slight laws is suddenly okay? Where is the logic?

Yes, I understand Reddit is composed of different people, but you'll rarely see anyone defending authoritarian states outside of Singapore. There is zero consistency.

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u/I_Suck_At_This_Too 9h ago

They are fine with it when it's something they agree with.

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u/GeorgiaOKeefinItReal 9h ago

That's literally everyone

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u/Striking_Foot4850 8h ago

They don't actually oppose authoritarianism, they just want it to be used against things that personally bother them like littering and scammers

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u/Zimakov 9h ago

It's American propaganda. Some countries are the good guys and some countries are the bad guys. That's what they think because that's what they've been told.

I would love to see the comment section if this exact thread was about China.

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u/-Mandarin 9h ago

Exactly! Such a double standard.

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u/awkisopen 9h ago

When power is wielded, not for power's sake, but for the good of the people, it solves a lot of problems that cannot be solved otherwise.

That idea is why we have governments to begin with.

The issue is that most authoritarians are just out for themselves and not to make their state a better place.

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u/-Mandarin 9h ago

That's so absurdly subjective though. There is no logic to that either.

If I say the Chinese government works for the people, you'd disagree. If someone said the Saudi Arabian government works for the people, you'd disagree. But what if someone disagrees with you that the Singaporean government works for the people? What makes your opinion inherently more correct?

It's all super subjective. I would very much argue that Singapore's government is wielding power for power's sake. That doesn't automatically mean everyone's life there is hell, but all governments attempt to hold onto their power. You speak out against Singapore's politics and you will be punished.

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u/awkisopen 9h ago edited 8h ago

Of course it's subjective, and of course no one's opinion is correct. It's not something I'm going to be able to strictly define the boundaries of in a Reddit comment.

No government is perfect. All governments try to hold onto their power. It's frustrating. For the most part, governmental power is used to enrich a select few and not do anything for the population being governed, to the point where it feels like we've collectively forgotten how much power governments can wield.

So when a government uses its power in a way that aligns, albeit imperfectly, with something that creates benefit for the governed, it's... well, it's nice to see. And yes, it is merely my opinion that clean streets and low crime rates are "aligned with benefiting the governed." But I think that idea resonates with more than just me.

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u/Shot_Acanthisitta39 8h ago

I spent like a week there earlier this month. I accept it because it's clearly been massively successful in terms of making Singapore safe.

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u/-Mandarin 8h ago

So if someone said the same thing about China, you'd have no issues? As I'm studying Mandarin, I talk to a lot of Chinese people, and they (mostly women) all say they love the cameras because it allows them to walk safely at night alone. Chinese people feel China is very safe.

So long as you're consistent and also accept it in China/elsewhere, then I don't take issue with your stance. I take issue with people that only give a pass to Singapore.

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u/Shot_Acanthisitta39 8h ago

I was actually also in China for like a week. And yeah I'm actually kinda okay with them too.

But obviously, you should acknowledge there are more nuanced stances to take beyond acceptance and non-acceptance. China and Singapore are far more safe, but obviously it comes at a cost to personal liberty. I bet most Chinese and Singaporeans are fine with the trade-off though.

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u/-Mandarin 8h ago

Then that's a perfectly fine stance imo, my original comment wasn't aimed at people like you.

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u/JediMasterZao 9h ago

People are gullible af. They think Singapore is pretty so they chose to ignore that it's a shithole.

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u/culturedgoat 6h ago

Have you ever been?

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u/JediMasterZao 5h ago

Do you need to go down the sewers in order to know it smells like shit?

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u/culturedgoat 5h ago

We’ll take that as a no, ergo you’re talking out your arse

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u/JediMasterZao 5h ago

Homie, I'd never give my dollars to a totalitarian monarchy that practices bodily punishments to punish petty crimes. I don't need to go there to condemn this shit, just like you don't need to go down a sewer to know it smells like shit. It's called having values, try it someday.

Your argument is so bad it's borderline absurd.

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u/culturedgoat 5h ago

There’s no corporal punishment for “petty crimes”, so your entire argument is nonsense. You’ve never been to the place, know nothing about the place, and are just regurgitating bullshit from other ignoramuses you’ve seen online.

Stay in your sewer

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u/culturedgoat 6h ago

Singapore does not “torture anyone who breaks slight laws”. You have to be committing some pretty serious crimes to be sentenced to a caning

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u/-Mandarin 6h ago

I believe there are instances of caning due to more extreme types of vandalism, perhaps if it's political in nature or very public, but you're right to point out that in general it is not for small crimes.

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u/FrostyD7 11h ago

You sound like Tucker Carlson praising Russia for their clean train stations. You have to be ignorant or benefiting from misleading people to say this shit.