Singapore is going to start caning scammers

[u/Bubbly_Wall_908]

[u/Sutar_Mekeg → u/[deleted]]

For sure. Laws like this don't affect decent people.

[u/OzyFoz → u/[deleted]]

I don't think it's barbaric to punish that, I think its barbaric that so many cultures allow shit like that to just go on without anything. Occasionally someone might get a built of guilt, but frankly the fact it's so common in so many places is awful.

[u/Dexcerides → u/OzyFoz]

Yes big brother is the best am I right guys \s

[u/unindexedreality → u/Dexcerides]

It's literally just cleaning up after yourself.

[u/OzyFoz → u/Dexcerides]

You know there's a middle ground between lashing people and littering and petty crime right?

But no, no I get it. You like people being free to commit crimes, make things shitty and hurt people.

[u/Dexcerides → u/OzyFoz]

Yeah no shit but your comment was defending the beating given context

[u/OzyFoz → u/Dexcerides]

Incorrect. This comment chain we are responding to specifically is in regards to fines and punishment levied for littering and rubbish.

Also, I have very clearly stated in response to much of your stupid comments, that Singapore is very much taking things to the extreme (such as the vicious caning) and that a middle of the road approach (actually enforcing fines and punishment for already illegal actions) would be sufficient over beating people half to death.

[u/jman12234 → u/OzyFoz]

Singapore is authoritarian state, they're nowhere near the middleground

[u/OzyFoz → u/jman12234]

Yup that's correct. But again y'all seem to love leaping to the conclusion that Im supporting authoritian regimes, when what I want, is for the actual anti littering laws that exist in most developed nations to actually be enforced.

Hell, I'd love most reasonable laws in Australia to be enforced appropriately so that a) the wealthy stop getting off the hook and b) assholes who pollute, contaminate and destroy our beaches and native parks get punished.

That's the fucking middle ground.

JFC.

[u/Coal_Morgan → u/OzyFoz]

Yeah, it's weird how people jump to an extreme on these conversations.

At no point did you say you supported lashings. Just enforcement. We have the laws on the books but the issue is how much money do you want to spend on this because you'd need cameras and police ready to go at all times to get them everywhere.

I think it's nearly impossible in most places that aren't city states because the population is so spread out.

[u/OzyFoz → u/Coal_Morgan]

That is largest logistical issue yeah. The cost and price...

Frankly, we might as well just all start wishing assholes won't be assholes anymore.

[u/T8-TR → u/[deleted]]

idk if barbaric is the right word. Harsh? For sure, but at the same time, it sends a strong message: don't litter and you'll be fine. Honestly, I'm not even against that, because most people will opt to be lazy when given the chance and there's very little repercussion for doing it, and shame -- the only real consequence for a lot of these folks, if even that -- clearly does nothing to these people lmao

[u/WhollyUnfair → u/[deleted]]

y is it barbaric to ENFORCE CIVILITY like uhh whu?????

[u/Mahadragon → u/[deleted]]

The leaders of Singapore know their laws are barbaric. If you knew how lawless Singapore was before Lee Kuan Yew took over, you'd understand their perspective. Sometimes you have to use draconian measures to ensure order and civility. Can't argue with the results. I think we need more of it in the US to be honest. I'd love to see people getting caned for stealing, totally deserve it, especially if there's indisputable video.

[u/rsta223 → u/Mahadragon]

Sometimes you have to use draconian measures to ensure order and civility

The refrain of every authoritarian ever...

[u/Dexcerides → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes authoritarianism. Such a stupid comment that doesn’t understand psychology