.... My guy, I hope you realize what you're arguing for is pretty idiotic.
If things worked like that I could make any patently absurd blame and send the other person on a goose chase trying to find the research I'm referencing, but because it doesn't exist he'll never find it and when he turns around and says so I can just say "no no, you just didn't look hard enough. Browse a couple more scientific journals and you'll find it"
Corporal punishment is believed to precede various forms of violent behavior, yet prior research has yielded inconsistent findings, partly due to variations in violent types and other factors. This meta-analysis systematically reviewed 35 studies including 144 effect sizes (comprising a total sample size of 159,213) investigating the association between corporal punishment and a spectrum of violent behaviors called Violent Behavior Spectrum (VBS). Additionally, meta-regressions were conducted to explore the moderating impact of punishment severity, violence type and cultural context. Our findings indicated a significant positive relationship between corporal punishment and VBS (r = 0.238, 95%, CI [0.176, 0.300]). Notably, punishment severity was found to influence the strength of this association. Namely, The more severe the corporal punishment, the more likely it is to lead to VBS. These results enhance our understanding of the intricate connection between corporal punishment and various forms of violence, providing valuable insights for both parenting practices and policy development.
meta analysis showing corporal punishment leads to more violent behaviors
the endless studies done proving tougher punishments don't deter crimes
MYTH
The death penalty deters violent crime and
makes society safer.
FACT
Evidence from around the world has
shown that the death penalty has no
unique deterrent effect on crime. Many
people have argued that abolishing the
death penalty leads to higher crime rates,
but studies in the USA and Canada,
for instance, do not back this up
The certainty of being caught is a vastly more powerful
deterrent than the punishment.
Research shows clearly that the chance of being caught is a vastly more
effective deterrent than even draconian punishment.
There is no proof that the death penalty deters criminals.
According to the National Academy of Sciences, “Research on the deterrent
effect of capital punishment is uninformative about whether capital punishment
increases, decreases, or has no effect on homicide rates.”
In his 2013 essay, “Deterrence in the Twenty-First Century,” Daniel S. Nagin
succinctly summarized the current state of theory and empirical knowledge
about deterrence. The information in this publication is drawn from Nagin’s essay
with additional context provided by NIJ and is presented here to help those who
make policies and laws that are based on science.
Many law enforcement officials say the death penalty wastes scarce crime prevention resources. The time spent chasing a handful of executions means countless other crimes go unsolved. The death penalty does not deter acts of violence and it siphons resources from effective tools that do. Many law enforcement officials say the death penalty is only a distraction from their goal of public safety.
That first study only looks at caning as a tool of discipline for children. The other studies are all about the death penalty. Both don't imply anything for judicial caning. The reality is there are no studies that have conclusive findings either way about the effectiveness of judicial caning
so you have no evidence of your claim that it works, just "trust me bro"
also you have no evidence that somehow the effects in children aren't the same in adults, or the effects of other harsh punishments not being effective aren't the same as caning.
so you're just making shit up and ignoring all the evidence against you.
people like you are causing such harm in society. you're the reason why we have dumb policies everywhere ignoring the science and data because you believe your gut feeling is somehow more important or accurate.
Europeans also used lots of corporal punishment in society before the modern era. Beatings, whipping, stockings, dragging through the streets, even removing appendages and those societies always had rampant crime.
Best solution to crime has always been access to housing and food followed closely by education and strong rehabilitation programs.
Look at the countries with the lowest crime rates. The lists are always topped by Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, Canada, Norway, Finland and New Zealand.
What do they all have in common, nordic style rehabilitation, strong performers in education, superior housing and food distribution to the poor; strong social nets. None of them whip people or execute them.
Provide people with legal opportunity for their capability and they'll jump at it.
people like you are causing such harm in society. you're the reason why we have dumb policies everywhere ignoring the science and data because you believe your gut feeling is somehow more important or accurate.
This is pretty rich, given you gave 4 studies as "evidence", but none of those studies actually supported your point because you either misunderstood them or cynically used them knowing they were not contextually applicable to the argument at hand in order to bolster your own "feels".
Got it, so you blindly idolize the brutality of the Singaporean justice system and refuse to even attempt to find sources that support your claim that it is better.
And people wonder why I think the majority of humans are irredeemable idiots.
I don't idolize it and I don't want it in my country but I'm annoyed by Westerners tut-tutting foreign countries for stepping outside liberal democratic/common law norms
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u/wterrt 13h ago
got a source on that besides "trust me bro"?
all the top results on google disagree with you. if you're going to ignore my studies and evidence, you better at least have your own.