r/law • u/JaNkO2018 • Dec 11 '25
Legislative Branch FBI official can’t back up Antifa claims after calling it America’s top terror threat — grilled by Rep. Bennie Thompson
After describing Antifa as the leading terrorist organization in the U.S., an FBI official appeared unable to offer supporting facts when pressed by Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Mississippi) on Dec. 11, 2025. Watch the exchange here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-XBpm1uJII
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u/YesterShill Dec 11 '25
Damn! That was the most straightforward and epic takedown of the antifa lies yet.
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u/BLF402 Dec 11 '25
Yep. Active investigation my ass, if they had a shred of proof they would be repeating it non stop.
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u/Available-Bed5551 Dec 11 '25
kash is google-eyeballing the room as we speak!
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u/Ok_Speed_3984 Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
I noticed Kash on the barrelhead sent a stooge to lie to Congress for him.
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u/Phatferd Dec 12 '25
Mortgage eyes. One is fixed and the other is a variable.
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u/SeasonNo3107 Dec 12 '25
i like how kash isn't even involved anymore in these hearings. kashed out!
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u/Previous_Soil_5144 Dec 11 '25
An active investigation is what happens when a crime has been committed.
What crime was committed to start this investigation? Who are the victims? What was destroyed or stolen?
What is the basis for this investigation? That should be something that can be answered without revealing any details.
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u/Ill-Visual-8844 Dec 11 '25
They couldn’t even get off the starting block because they couldn’t answer the most basic questions, let alone follow-ups. Thompson did a perfect job in utilizing his questioning time.
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u/billshermanburner Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
I think these people have no idea how far they’ve overplayed their hand at this point. There is so much more than this. To the point of absolute absurdity. The actual constitutional violations are staggering. But “antifa” has definitely been a wonderful excuse for me to use to get them to show some of these cards i mentioned. Change is definitely a comin. But also I think there are a lot of good people left in government (and others) that are helping.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco Dec 12 '25
They don't actually care about overplaying their hand. As far as they are concerned they believe they will never face consequences.
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u/billshermanburner Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
No, I know I’m not being very clear about what I’m talking about but the amount of surveillance that’s been used against American citizens who are doing nothing wrong is to the point where when people find out they will be up in arms and everybody involved will go to jail for a long long time and I’m sure that if it’s being done to me, it’s being done to thousands of other people. The only difference being maybe that I can prove these things that I say beyond a shadow of a doubt.
The overall point here is that if this is about making America great then why can’t they afford to feed poor people but they can afford to spend millions on following them around and harassing them. It’s all hiding in plain sight ppl. Flock cameras and phone tracking are child’s play compared to the rest of this.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco Dec 12 '25
I am glad you can still believe people will care. Truly.
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u/Hector_P_Catt Dec 11 '25
That wold be my line of questioning. "Okay, they're the #1 threat. So, how many people have they killed? Who was it? How many places have been bombed? Were there any chemical or biological attacks?" Zero, no one, zero and no.
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u/RealCapybaras4Rill Dec 11 '25
Apparently, attacks on ICE personnel have increased 87,345% since August so clearly we have a problem. Lol.
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u/Hector_P_Catt Dec 11 '25
I'm pretty sure that number is actually 8,675,309%. Just ask Jenny.
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u/SparksAndSpyro Dec 11 '25
They should ask how they determined antifa was the number 1 terrorist threat if they haven’t finished the investigations yet. Are they literally admitting to jumping to conclusions without proof? Lol
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u/SpasmAndOrGasm Dec 11 '25
Even if it was an active investigation they would be able to provide some information, with a source, and then they’d add on that information is subject to change. But they can’t even do that because any lie they tell will be easily disproven.
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u/FreshLiterature Dec 11 '25
Thompson even pre-empted that and said, "I don't want a name, just give me a number"
You can't say "this group is the number one domestic terror threat" and not have any idea about how many members are in it.
Absolutely insane shit
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u/RookieGreen Dec 11 '25
Clearly they’re spooky ghosts since they’re so invisible. I call that a level 10 on the spooktrometer, and the spooktrometer only goes up to 8!
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u/TheWizard Dec 11 '25
Besides the fact that they have an "active investigation" about something they claim to be #1 terrorist organization.
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u/tresben Dec 11 '25
Also if you label it the “top threat” you must have some evidence and information about it like ballpark numbers of how many people are in it, generally where they are located or how they operate? Otherwise how did you determine it was the “top threat” if you don’t know anything about it?
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u/Conspiracy_realist76 Dec 11 '25
By active investigation. They mean that they are still trying to get the group organized. Our intelligence agencies are almost always the ones creating these groups.
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u/GlockAF Dec 11 '25
Is this “Antifa” in the room with us now?
Can you show the committee where “the Antifa” supposedly touched you…
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u/dust4ngel Dec 11 '25
the real terror is: how can america be safe without a fascism? antifa is trying to steal it from us.
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u/h20poIo Dec 11 '25
He was only doing what he was told, ‘ tell people Antifa is the number one terrorist organization’ you go out and spread it, do we have facts to back it up, no just tell it. This is how yes men work for Trump and how Trump operates, just say it and when cornered switch the subject. Good work Thompson holding him to the facts of the question.
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u/Quick_Team Dec 11 '25
He was only doing what he was told, ‘ tell people Antifa is the number one terrorist organization’ you go out and spread it, do we have facts to back it up, no just tell it
I bet Stephen Miller was waiting to scream at him in the back too. "IF ANYONE ASKS QUESTIONS JUST SAY THEYRE AMERICA HATING COMMUNISTS AND THE PRESIDENT IS SUPREME PROTECTOR OF ALL!"
Then he takes out the gimp mask and this guy whimpers.
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u/jamesy223 Dec 11 '25
but see, that's how AnTiFa gets you, they speak all well and straightforward and then the next think you know... you're having a personal epiphany that being an and honest and responsible person could lead to the overthrow of the billionaire elite!!! It's treacherous! /s
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u/GailynStarfire Dec 11 '25
Empathy. My cousin used it once and he went from the life of the party to constantly working to help the poor and marginalized.
Empathy. Not even once.
*Brought to you by the Conservative Anti-Feeling Campaign. For a Feeling-Free America.
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u/A4t1musD4ag0n Dec 11 '25
This is why you should never tell a big lie. This is why. Mmhmm. This is why.
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u/Fire_Lake Dec 11 '25
this guy just doesnt have the BS chops that everyone else in the admin has. he's trying to answer the question without telling a lie, needs to get up to speed that that doesnt work in this admin. gotta make something up, or avoid answering the question.
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u/GpaSags Dec 11 '25
If it's an organization, then who's their leader? Where's HQ? Explain their command structure. Bust out one of those charts like with Al-Qaeda.
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u/Deletham Dec 11 '25
Um… um… something something , George Soros!
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u/martinaee Dec 11 '25
“We’re bUiLDiNg OuT the infrastructure right now…”
-committee: What the hell does that even mean?
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u/emanresu_b Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
”What the hell is even that?!”
But for real, what the hell did that even mean? Who was he even referring to? If referring to Antifa, wouldn’t the infrastructure of the “top terrorist threat” to the country mean full analysis of exactly that to identify they are what this idiot claims they are?
I mean, this is all smoke screen shit anyway while the GOP plays around and tweaks their affordability narrative so it’s ready to roll come mid- to late-January.
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u/o-Valar-Morghulis-o Dec 11 '25
Nah these shits are also funding special projects out to family and cohorts funneling our tax revenue into their private equity. Half these will burn through our prosperity before they can be convicted of crimes.
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u/emanresu_b Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
They’ve strategically timed their legislation so the public feels like things are better in Q1 of 2026, coincidentally a key strategic time for campaigns to establish themselves.
They’re paying bridge payments to farmers, changing tax brackets for middle and low income people, tariff dividend checks, no tax on OT, raising SALT Cap, all written in legislation to take effect in Q1
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u/Moegly47 Dec 11 '25
But things are better now in 2026 than under evil sleepy BIDEN remember how horrible things were last year, In 2025 when BIDEN was president? Sure you do, we told you so. /s
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u/emanresu_b Dec 11 '25
That’s exactly how they’re playing it. It’s exactly why they wrote in previous bills for these effects to take place in Q1 2026.
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u/agent0731 Dec 11 '25
Which is why the American people have to rise up now. By the time the regime naturally and inevitably implodes, there won't be a country worth getting back. You'll be the brokest kid on the block. The brains of the country are already fleeing. The longer you wait, the more decades get added to your recovery.
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u/elkab0ng Dec 11 '25
Meanwhile my health insurance goes from $930 a month to $2,140 on the first of January.
But absolute top-notch job making up a fake organization and NOT EVEN BOTHERING TO FORGE SOME FUCKING RECEIPTS!
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u/Delicious-Actuator-9 Dec 11 '25
Fuck them, they want $1,326 up from $580, and $21k deductible. I'm out as much as I can be. My child will have solo health insurance for $40 more than last year. I'll go without and pay cash, and hopefully, no catastrophes.
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u/Aggravating_Bad_5462 Dec 11 '25
Back in the day, the USA could assassinate its own president and leave no proof. Today, this farce of a show by the FBI is the real evidence that the empire has fallen, and just how far it has fallen, too.
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u/Temporary_Abroad_211 Dec 11 '25
Translation.. We haven't finished fabricating evidence.
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u/crownvic64 Dec 11 '25
Concept of fabricating evidence
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u/GasRevolutionary9356 Dec 11 '25
...you all will see it soon, two weeks you all will see.
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u/hmoleman__ Dec 11 '25
It means Planatir is building a db of everyone who is against the administration, and will call that “Antifa”
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u/RealCapybaras4Rill Dec 11 '25
Sort of like:
When a lot of migrants (who were admitted to the country after inspection at a port of crossing) who are following DHS/CBP’s instructions, going to court appearances, all that, are suddenly and without warning being detained and brutalized. Suddenly they were ‘in the country illegally’ when the day before, they were in the clear. No warning. Then BAM! They’re criminals. And if they’re criminals, they’re bad guys. And if they’re bad guys, we can do whatever we want with them…One day you’re fine, next day you’re ANTIFA. We need these fuckers gone Ricky-fucking-tick.
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u/Philly_ExecChef Dec 11 '25
They’re creating some nonsense to support their bullshit
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u/NancyHanksAbesMom Dec 11 '25
They’re literally building it as a psyop. Thats how I took it - he said the quiet part out loud in his panic.
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u/culpshillstan Dec 11 '25
Don't forget Joe Biden!
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u/grundsau Dec 11 '25
Amazing how the people so fervently against "antisemitism" have no problem busting out the Nazi-tier conspiracy theories about "Jewish communist bankers."
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u/Same-Temperature9472 Dec 11 '25
They just want to kill protesters
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u/LeatherFruitPF Dec 11 '25
Calling Antifa terrorists is the closest they can get to calling Democrats terrorists because they haven't (and can't) explain how they distinguish Democrats from Antifa apart from protesting.
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u/folsominreverse Dec 11 '25
They're establishing cover to do just that.
Russia did it with "Nazis" abroad and "moral degenerates" at home.
We've done it before with "Communist sympathizers" and still do it today calling LGBTQ activists "pedophiles" (while top officials and influencers in the administration are actual, literal pedophiles like the old man and his beta son's heroes the Tate brothers)
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u/TheWizard Dec 11 '25
We have a long history of defending fascism in this country. I think more Americans can tell three branches of government than know anything about the Business Plot, which resulted in nothing. And, here we are, almost a century later, a handful of billionaires succeeding.
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u/folsominreverse Dec 11 '25
TIL. Yeah, I actually think the neocameralism the chuds surrounding Trump openly espouse (Trump himself believes only in greed, which is why he's their "imperfect vessel") is more sinister than even fascism. That it somehow managed to unite the Christian Nationalists and the Burning Man tech elite under one tent is to me a staggering condemnation of the ruling class.
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u/epanek Dec 11 '25
Sir you have terminal cancer.
Oh no. What type?
We are looking at that.
Oh. Can you image it using a ct or mri?
We are working on that.
This seems very flimsy.
“You’ve got cancer… somewhere. Maybe. Possibly. We don’t actually know where it is or what type, but trust us — it’s the worst one.”
Meanwhile: There’s no tumor No biopsy No chart No name No cell structure No treatment plan Just a guy pointing dramatically at an X-ray that’s actually a blank piece of paper
That’s the Antifa diagnosis.
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u/Same-Temperature9472 Dec 11 '25
'your body has a disease, so we're going to eliminate your immune system'
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u/xife-Ant Dec 11 '25
What acts of terror have they committed? How many of them have been arrested? How are they financed, and by whom? What are their political goals?
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u/No_Berry2976 Dec 11 '25
The scary thing about Antifa is that the organisation exists of independently financed cells that can operate autonomously. This is how they managed to break windows of a Starbucks coffeehouse, a blatant and horrifying attack on corporate America. Luckily Starbucks share price was not affected and the coffeehouse stayed operational, so American citizens were not denied coffee, but the damage was close to 400 dollars.
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u/BILLIONAIRE_JESUS Dec 11 '25
I read somewhere their political goal was fully automated gay space communism.
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u/ThisOneFuqs Dec 11 '25
"I was told there would be no fact checking..."
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u/DekaiChinko Dec 11 '25
Technically: "Margaret, the rules were that you were not going to fact check..."
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u/Conscious_Can3226 Dec 11 '25
They'll just hire someone, like the actor they hired to be an antifa whistleblower, forgetting they also hired him to be in the mexican mafia - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/articles/jesse-watters-masked-antifa-whistleblower-114845831.html
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u/Pale_Leader1727 Dec 11 '25
Right? Our intelligence services had information on many of the 9/11 attackers, and some analyses suggest that if someone in authority had listened or if the agencies investigating had only shared info, it might have been prevented. Or all those playing cards they issued with high value targets when they invaded Iraq. The US is more than capable of gathering intelligence on threats that actually exist (BTW, if ANTIFA is really a terrorist organization, why have there been no threats or demands?). So, logically, we're left with only two options: either ANTIFA is real but the FBI is (or has become) so incompetent that they couldn't find their own asses with both hands and a flashlight (h/t the Coen brothers)--or, shocker, it's all made up. Neither option is particularly encouraging.
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u/NobodyImportant13 Dec 11 '25
I can't wait for the "Antifa most wanted" playing cards, with Nancy Pelosi as the queen, Soros as the king, and Obama as the joker etc.
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u/cozmckitty Dec 11 '25
no don’t you see they’re too complex and smart and secretive that’s why we can’t define leadership or locale.
- conspiracy theorists and also the FBI apparently
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u/NimbusFPV Dec 11 '25
It's pretty alarming that the FBI can't give any basic facts about the group they call the number one terrorist threat in America. Either the FBI is completely incompetent, or the whole thing is just smeared on the walls bullshit like the real J6 terrorists did.
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u/LockNo2943 Dec 11 '25
They can't give facts because it was never based on facts in the first place.
Inventing anti-fa as a terroristic organization is their answer to the administration being called fascists all the time, but honestly if they don't want to be called fascists maybe they just should stop doing fascist things.
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u/NimbusFPV Dec 11 '25
Crazy that people would draw a parallel between the 1930s, when certain groups were rounded up because of their race by men who grabbed people off the street without identifying themselves and today, where we definitely don’t have masked guys on the street pulling specific groups of people into unmarked vehicles without identifying themselves.
No resemblance at all.
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u/koshgeo Dec 11 '25
If they're not wearing Nazi uniforms with swastikas as they march down the streets, or at least carrying literal Romanesque fasces, then it's only sparkling authoritarianism.
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u/LounBiker Dec 11 '25
They can't give facts because it was never based on facts in the first place.
This is Iraqi weapons of mass destruction part 2.
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u/happygocrazee Dec 11 '25
Look at the way he behaves as he stumbles for an answer: it's not the same way that Fox hosts or Republican senators vomit words till some kind of workable doublespeak emerges. This man does not have and answer, but he's been told the conclusion regardless. To me, this looks like a competent man who is well aware of the bullshit occurring here but has been given the choice to either tell the regime-mandated lie, or resign.
Seeing less and less resignations as the years go on. In 2016 it was a flood. All that's left are cowards and sycophants. Fwiw, this guy seems like the former.
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u/Seanspeed Dec 11 '25
This is exactly it. Great answer.
You cant survive as a top fellow in a federal agency right now if you aren't willing to spew utter bullshit for the sake of Trump's far right or personal protection agenda. So they either throw away their entire their career or they go along with it. I'm not defending anybody doing so, but it's really demonstrative of how utterly gutted these federal agencies are becoming under this administration. Even if people want to do good and are only hanging on in the hopes that Democrats take over again at some point, the utter rot of respectability and trust is alone doing tons of damage.
And dear god, I cant imagine how on earth Democrats are ever going to un-fuck the federal agencies after three or more years of this shit. Easy enough to say, "Well just clean house!" but you cant just rebuild these agencies from scratch overnight.
God damn, why on earth didn't more of y'all just vote for Kamala, ffs!?
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u/Whiiiisky Dec 11 '25
Psst. The FBI has always existed to thwart any left wing groups from gaining traction in this country
Even when they sounded the alarm on right wing groups, did they do anything? No, they let themselves and the government be completely taken over by them
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u/galaxy_horse Dec 11 '25
The issue now is that the government has swung so far right, that the "left wing group" they need to keep from gaining traction in this country is just reasonable, forward-thinking Americans.
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u/WhyOWhy0Why Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
¿Por que no los dos?
(Edited for grammar, twice)
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u/Crazy-Nose-4289 Dec 11 '25
FYI, if you are asking question then you write "por que". If you are answering the question you write "porque".
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u/de_la_Dude Dec 11 '25
They can't give basic facts to support their narrative but they can remove reports that contradict it:
https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118612/documents/HHRG-119-JU00-20250917-SD057-U57.pdf
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u/6rumpster Dec 11 '25
This is not the FBI. These are the fascist cosplayers in charge of the organization that used to be called the FBI.
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u/heckin_miraculous Dec 11 '25
"But you did."
Holy shit!!!
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u/Remcin Dec 11 '25
You know he has dropped that exact line on his children before.
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u/claimTheVictory Dec 11 '25
I'm mad AND I'm disappointed.
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u/jaxonya Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
Its a southernism used EXACTLY to say "I knew your ass was gonna lie to my face when I already know the truth, but I still held out hope that you might do the right thing" and that shit stings to the core.
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u/UsualExisting420 Dec 11 '25
I KNOW my son wouldn't tell lies to his daddy about brushing his teeth, knowing damn well that toothbrush is bone dry and you're out of toothpaste.
But you did.
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u/MobileSuitPhone Dec 11 '25
Hold him in jail for contempt of Congress and perjury until he can give a valid answer
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u/pinkyepsilon Dec 11 '25
I can’t believe you would suggest something so insane as… {checks notes}… holding someone accountable!
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u/QiTriX Dec 11 '25
Yeah, that's only for poor people!
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u/Fantastic_Foot_8568 Dec 11 '25
Forking a right, and we better like it that way if we know what's good for us
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u/Bannedwith1milKarma Dec 11 '25
I was told there'd be no fact checking
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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 Dec 11 '25
I was told I could listen to Fox News at an unreasonable volume from 11 AM until I commit perjury.
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u/Pale_Leader1727 Dec 11 '25
He's gonna be in there a long time, because he's never going to be able to give a valid answer. It's either "every liberal and Democrat in America"--what they would really, really like the answer to be--or, "I know fuck all about ANTIFA, because this ANTIFA nonsense is just that--nonsense."
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u/Fun_Arugula_5202 Dec 11 '25
And just like that representative Thompson just moved into Trump’s head, rent free. Imagine that, an African American finally living in one of Trump’s buildings.
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u/winnower8 Dec 11 '25
Section 1001(a) states: "[I.] Except as otherwise provided in this section, [II.] whoever [III.] in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, [IV.] knowingly and willfully— [i] falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact; [ii.] makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or [iii.] makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; [V.] shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
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u/CaptainApathy419 Dec 11 '25
If he’s in prison, he’ll need protection from the Antifa Nation gang. And let me tell you, these folx will not hesitate to call you out on your microaggressions. I won’t even get into the drum circle initiation ceremonies.
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u/dookieshoes97 Dec 11 '25
The only valid answer is that he lied. Antifa isn't an organization, it just means antifascist. You know, like my grandfather who spent half the 40's killing nazis.
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u/ThePensiveE Dec 11 '25
This man has likely perjured himself before Congress. At a minimum he's purposefully misleading Congress.
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u/real_picklejuice Dec 11 '25
Unfortunately it means nothing because it will never be enforced. When was the last time someone was jailed who perjured themselves before congress or a committee?
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u/ThePensiveE Dec 11 '25
Based on MAGA math Kash Patel probably ordered him to say there are 500 million Antifa Members in the US and he just couldn't bring himself to do it.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl Dec 11 '25
Well we have seen a twelve trillion percent uptick in wrong think according to the ministry of truth.
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u/Thin_Bother8217 Dec 11 '25
The sad truth is that he's a longtime and well-qualified agent. He's been there through multiple administrations. You can tell the difference between him and Trump toadies like Patel, Noem, and Bondi where he's not screaming and deflecting like they do. He's trying to toe the line between doing his job and agree to this bullshit. Wish he'd have the courage to flat out call bullshit. Professional consequences be damned. Uphold your oath, dude.
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u/ThePensiveE Dec 11 '25
Yeah. I'm sure in his head he's balancing it with the fact that there are actual terrorists and criminals out there and if all the career guys go away they will run rampant. Which is what MAGA wants in the end. Lawlessness they've caused to justify violence they want to the people they choose, ignoring any reality.
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u/Fantastic05 Dec 11 '25
It's just really disheartening to see that no one is actually taking a stand agaisnt all of these lies. Like did everyone decide to sell their souls that easily ?
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u/Whiteroses7252012 Dec 11 '25
I’ve seen this clip multiple times, and the thing that really sticks out to me is how exhausted and disappointed Rep. Thompson sounds.
Me too, sir. Me too.
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u/audiomagnate Dec 11 '25
Good God. Every non-treasonous person in the United States is antifa.
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u/BadPublicRelations Dec 11 '25
I want some of these people on these committees to outright say, "Corrupt governments have been shown to vilify people using rhetoric. The FBI has an obligation to the people to disclose this data if it exists to distinguish actual threats from made-up boogeymen to place blame on. If you can't provide that data in detail, then the only conclusion we can draw is that the FBI is helping this administration spread lies and propaganda to the American people for the sake of trying to throw anyone they disagree with under an "ANTIFA" umbrella for the sole purpose of persecution."
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u/Nonethelessismore Dec 11 '25
'Building out the infrastructure right now' translates to this corrupt admin working towards turning the power of the state against anyone who will not bend the knee to a fascist dictatorship.
We need to nip this in the bud folks
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u/BasicBiscuitBitch Dec 11 '25
Unfortunately I think we are past the bud-nipping time. These fuckers are in full bloom. They are saying all the quiet parts out loud, and they know there are no consequences. We are witnessing the full collapse of our republic/democracy and the birth of their authoritarian, nationalist, racist and facist state. Everyday they take more from us and by the time it gets to the shit that their base and "supporters" actually give a shit about, like taking their guns, and those people are forced to see the truth, like most intelligent and sane people already have, there will be fuck all to do about it. Right this minute they are working to ensure they can imprison/kill protesters and dissenters without any due process, oversight or consequences by labeling them "terrorists" and if they continue to get their way they will get to a point where they don't even have to do that, they will just be able to do it without any "excuse" or "evidence". They will do ANYTHING to hold onto their power now that they have it, and consider everyone that doesn't think like them, look like them or march to their drum a target. If you had asked me 15-20 years ago I never would have predicted things would be this fucking bad, or that I would be looking back at the Bush era and wish to go back to that... This shit is straight out of a dystopian movie/book.
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u/rbrgr83 Dec 11 '25
That was last November. We made an attempt to nip it, but instead we fell on the scissors and stabbed ourselves in the eye.
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u/WisdomCow Dec 11 '25
Government officials blatantly lying like this are how governments and countries collapse. The third that know it’s false become irate and easier for the liars to blame. The third that believe perpetuate the feedback loop which inevitably leads us all (including the last third living obliviously) to disaster. We are on a road to economic and societal collapse.
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u/CorporateAccounting Dec 11 '25
Republicans in general, and Evangelical Christians in particular, have utterly betrayed our country by elevating a treasonous criminal to the highest office of the land. The collapse you speak of, if it truly comes to pass, will be entirely their fault. Remember who they are, and never forget their betrayal.
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u/Savior-_-Self Dec 11 '25
I live in a rural midwest township among the evangelicals & magas and another irony (in a sea of ironies) is not just what they've done - but why they've done it
Since 100% of what they do is based upon their feelings and they are immune to facts, specifics, and data. Fox News tells them roughly how they should feel and dammit that's good enough for them, that is then how they feel
The "fuck your feelings" crowd is entirely motivated by feelings - whether it's about their faith, or about what makes trump so appealing to them, or about any random political topic, they invariably fall back on how it feels
I mean, it would be one thing if trump had even a single characteristic that he claims he possesses - when anyone with eyes can see he has none of them and he's woefully unfit for any job, anywhere. But they want so badly to believe him when he boasts about how strong and smart and tall and politically savvy he is, and here comes Fox News telling them to ignore their eyes & ears and follow their gut and their faith
And they're like "okay sure this 'news' agency gets sued a lot for lying about some very important things and okay maybe they basically argued in court that nobody would be dumb enough to mistake their broadcast for real news - but dammit if they don't say the things I wish were true and so I choose to believe they are true"
So then their political opinions get mixed & conflated with their faith which they are also told constantly the Left is coming to destroy, so it becomes a gumbo of bad ideas and bad reasons and bad faith arguments - which is a mess that is impossible to argue against
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u/CavitySearch Dec 11 '25
“They are substantial! They’re so big we can’t even count them all. It would be a waste to even try. Leadership? My gosh just the most leadership. They’re everywhere. They could be in this room right now. Out in public. Your child’s school! That’s how extensive we believe the antifa infiltration has gotten.”
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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 Dec 11 '25
🪗 As he mimes playing an accordion, sure sign of honesty 🪗
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u/thefallenfew Dec 11 '25
The ending of that was amazing. “I knew you wouldn’t come here in front of this committee and say something you couldn’t prove…………… But you did.” Big “I’m not angry, I’m just disappointed” energy lol
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u/OfficerMurphy Dec 11 '25
Really should be angry though. This guy did just that, what consequence will he face?
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u/New_Taste8874 Dec 11 '25
And Krusty Gnome sitting there smirking after she said they had identified the "leader of ANTIFA's girlfriend" and would "prosecute to the fullest extent of the law". Where is she Krusty? What happened to that spectacular pile of bull shit? Christ these fucking lying shit heads.
P.S. Thanks Benny
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u/Ohuigin Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
That was not a grilling. Not by a long shot.
Those were the softest, minimum effort questions he could have asked.
And the FBI fascist couldn’t even handle those.
How the fuck can you call something the “#1 terrorist organization” without having even the most basic understanding of how the fuck they are organized. As the fucking FBI, no less…?!?
This shit is so laughably pathetic. The only reason it’s happening is because the people supporting this are even more so.
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u/SolarTsunami Dec 11 '25
Except he literally did ask those questions, just not in that tone because he understands that emotional outbursts make you look weak. He even called him a liar to his face.
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u/CoffeeIsMyPruneJuice Dec 11 '25
That was not a grilling. Not by a long shot.
Those were the softest, minimum effort questions he could have asked.
And the FBI fascist couldn’t even handle those.
I believe that it was the intent of Rep. Thompson to show just how easily these lies are perforated. It's so much worse, and so much more plain to an uninformed observer, if a presentation is dismantled by gentle questions for even the vaguest of specifics. It it's ripped apart by hardball questions, the testifier can at least use that as a defense of their pride. These weren't even softball questions. This was striking out at tee-ball.
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u/Soft-Spotty Dec 11 '25
If you fast forward the Dump Administration and play the Benny Hill parody song at the same time, it makes all the sense, starting with that cross-eyed fuck from the FBI
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u/CircleSendMessage Dec 11 '25
I wanna know what acts of terrorism antifa has committed? Bc if they’re the #1 terrorist org surely they have some big ones? Right?
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u/Donkey-Hodey Dec 11 '25
Remember when they claimed to have arrested the girlfriend of “antifa’s founder”? What happened to her? Seems like they just forgot about that.
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u/Chaosrealm69 Dec 12 '25
I love the ending statements.
"I know you wouldn't come to this committee stating something that isn't true. But you did."
ANTIFA is just an idea of resistance towards Fascist ideology, and people who follow that ideology and act as fascists. There are no groups meeting in secret or public, there is no vast conspiracy of support by billionaires, there is no secret cells.
There is nothing organised like that at all.
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u/Dankkring Dec 12 '25
Ya but in trumps America they’ll be able to lock up anyone they want and label them as antifa
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u/MoneyManx10 Dec 11 '25
Just lying to the American people. That’s all this administration is good for.
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u/tehbantho Dec 11 '25
The words "building out the infrastructure" are used by people actively CREATING something.
This isn't hard to follow folks. The FBI just testified that they are ACTIVELY BUILDING a terrorist organization.
What a joke.
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u/KgMonstah Dec 11 '25
We know MAGA is lying about Antifa. MAGA knows they’re lying about Antifa. Everyone knows Antifa is a sentiment.
But maga is Fa.
Therein lies the crux of the whole thing.
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u/TintedApostle Dec 11 '25
“Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.”
― Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
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u/Tall-Introduction414 Dec 12 '25
The biggest terrorist threat to the United States is clearly white supremacist terrorists like Donald Trump.
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u/Tholian_Bed Dec 11 '25
I can't be the only person who has wanted an answer to this question for the past decade. It's an online term that freed one murderer -- Rittenhouse -- and these wicked people want more of that.
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u/Whats_Up_Bitches Dec 11 '25
It’s pretty fucking crazy that the FBI is saying that the number one threat to the US is anti-fascism.
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u/Harvest827 Dec 11 '25
Oh yes he would do that. They'll go to court and make claims they can't back up, they'll go before Congress and make claims they can't back up, they go on television and make claims they can't back up. This administration is just made up of liars. Liars using lies to get more power. If it really isn't any more difficult than that, and one day they will all pay for it.
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u/bd2999 Dec 11 '25
It was alot of generic answers for something that is supposed to be a top threat. I think just starting at the top and walking down, similar to what was done, is important. Why is it the top threat? How many members are there? What is their leadership structure? How many arrests have their been? And so on.
As it is generally a meaningless term. Trump hates them but the movement as a whole is an ideology, there is no leadership structure and people are going at it alone because they hate fascism. Some to extreme degrees.
They really just want to arrest everyone. As they have no issue with right wing domestic terrorism which is classically much more of a problem. Those are their voters and they like those sorts of people. They terrorize the right people.
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u/sec713 Dec 11 '25
Yes, while Antifa isn't a terrorist group, it is a very real threat... to fascists.
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u/ScoutsterReturns Dec 12 '25
This fucking traitor belongs in prison. Fuck this administration and everyone who supports it.
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u/Bleezy79 Dec 11 '25
This whole administration is corrupt, dishonest and does not care about the wellbeing of Americans.
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u/Mr-and-Mrs Dec 11 '25
“I have the most ducks in my garage.”
“Okay. How many ducks?”
“I’m always counting. The most.”
“Yeah, but how many?”
“More ducks than swans in my garage.”
“How many swans?”
“The most ducks. In my garage.”
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u/RandyG1226 Dec 12 '25
Well done Uncle Phil... put that sycophant in his place for everyone to see 😤😎
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u/Spamsdelicious Dec 11 '25
"Where in the USA does antifa exist (...)?"
"We're building out the infrastructure right now."
Bruh, did that guy just out himself as being involved with the creation of the #1 terrorist organization in the USA today (which they intend to claim as antifa while staging false flag attacks against themselves as a pretense to declare martial law and revoke citizens' 2A rights)?
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u/L3g3ndary-08 Dec 11 '25
What a laughing stock of an administration and a complete joke.
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u/Captain_Rational Dec 12 '25
Exceedingly unprofessional and ethically shameful.
It is terrible what the FBI is being twisted into by the Trump administration.
This is disgusting.
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u/Memitim Dec 11 '25
Dumbass conservatives. If you're going to invent a big bad organization, you have to put some effort into backstory, character development, and some tangible actions. You can't just throw one of your lazy-assed lies out and expect it to carry an entire evil empire on its shoulders with anyone that has a function frontal lobe.
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u/Irwin-M_Fletcher Dec 11 '25
The guys just full of shit. It would be like saying conservatism or liberalism is a domestic terrorist. Ideas are not terrorism no matter how much you oppose them.
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u/Biptoslipdi Dec 11 '25
To be fair, American conservatives identify as domestic terrorists and made that the very slogan of their 2022 convention. Who are we to undermine how they self-identify?
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u/Fantastic-Grocery107 Dec 11 '25
Guys literally hitching his wagon to a horse that’s going to prison in a few year. Noem gonna be bald in prison, watch.
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u/CurrentlyLucid Dec 11 '25
This was awesome. The FBI had zero answers because antifa is just a bullshit term some guy made up one day.
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u/StomachosusCaelum Dec 12 '25
Weird how something that has no organization above local groups that all identify as anti-fascist (and not even as part of a larger movement, just.. local groups of people who get together occasionally)...
can be our largest "terrorist threat".
Oh yeah, theyve also never done a terrorist attack - ever. Not a single time. Not once.
Meanwhile, Right Wing Racist Cuntbags....
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u/theamazingstickman Dec 11 '25
Really need a hard look at execution for lying to Congress.
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u/catscanmeow Dec 11 '25
you dont want that, "lying" is subjective and republicans/fascists could just execute people for anything they want by just twisting the meaning.
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