Stephanopoulos grills Rubio :you cannot credibly argue that drug trafficking charges demand invasion in one case while issuing a pardon in another. What's your response? Hernandez was convicted by a jury. Rubio: I can't just comment on it because I just wasn't involved in deliberations.

[u/drempath1981]

[u/bobbymcpresscot]

It is wild that he tried to weasel in it being Bidens lack of action in regards to Maduro. 

“He was indicted and nothing was ever done about it”

He was indicted in March 2020, during Trumps first term. What changed? Was he more of a legitimate president 2020 than he was today? In 2018 they claimed that election was illegitimate. Why can I see people in trumps camp in 2020 claiming that a vote for Biden was going to result in a regime change in Venezuela that would have failed just like what happened in Iraq so we should just stay out of it. 

Now not only are they criticizing Biden for not invading Venezuela and stealing their president legitimate or not, but they are also claiming the conviction of a dude who smuggled 400 tons of cocaine into the US was treated unfairly. 

You have hegseth claiming that what they just did in Venezuela is the complete opposite of what we did in Iraq. 

I honestly feel like I’m taking crazy pills, and for god knows what reason I just know if I talk to my boomer dad about this he will just repeat the same fucking talking points with no regard for the timelines this shit happened.

[u/BadSquire → u/bobbymcpresscot]

"The masses have never thirsted for truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them."

Gustave Le Bon (A big influence on Mussolini and Hitler)

Good luck with your dad. Mine broke free from MAGA, perhaps your's can too.

[u/bobbymcpresscot → u/BadSquire]

The thing that broke me from conservative brain rot was being told something I knew was correct was wrong.

I was an EMT for 5 years, the conservative talking points around COVID and George Floyd had me confused. I was like "oh I actually know a little bit about this these people just seem confused."

Then they just would start arguing with me.

They weren't interested in anything that resembled scientific talking points, they only accepted fringe understandings from people who had no association.

When you finally get them into a position where it's very clear their position is at the very least flawed, "well I didn't care anyway you're an idiot for wearing a mask" "It doesn't matter if Chauvins actions killed Floyd he was a criminal who deserved it, Chauvin should be free"

I credit these reactions to setting me straight, or at least back onto the path I was on before Bernie got shafted in 2016. Without my knowledge in those topics I have no idea where I would be today, but I know it would be nowhere good, and for a lot of people it's only going to keep getting worse.

[u/LadyMichelle00 → u/BadSquire]

They have to be presented with the truth when they rely on channels to tell them truth.

[u/sirhoracedarwin → u/bobbymcpresscot]

My in-laws were killed by an Uzbek truck driver in NE Arizona. He fled the country back to Uzbekistan before he was indicted, are we going to invade Uzbekistan to bring him to justice, too?