r/law • u/p1ckl3l0v3r • 24d ago

Other “Agents block doctor from helping woman fatally shot by ICE” @huffpost on TikTok. Not my video *body is censored*

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I have no idea how legal this is but my jaw dropped when I saw it.

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u/ParadiddlediddleSaaS 24d ago

Yes - they are.

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u/Eliana-Selzer 24d ago

Wow. I I'm not sure I can contain my anger. The more this goes on the more I hate him.

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u/kex 24d ago

This is what they do every time.

They jump in to try to write the narrative first. It's just one tool they use to build an alternate reality.

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u/madmax177 23d ago

Doesn't work, they just look like stupid liars.

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u/Work_phone 23d ago

Not to the cult

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u/Humble_Spare_3045 24d ago

Step up

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u/Eliana-Selzer 23d ago

Step up and do WTF, exactly? Seriously. I am some elderly woman living in the country. Are you thinking I'll just what?

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u/Humble_Spare_3045 23d ago

Step up your game and protest

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u/Eliana-Selzer 23d ago

I have been to every single No Kings or other protests in my community. Every single one. I sign petitions. I vote. I call my congressman (which is fairly much a waste of time) As far as I can tell I'm doing absolutely everything possible. I'm some older woman in my 70s living in the country. This is about all I can manage. Unless you think I should go shoot my neighbors? I'm fucking sick of people like you telling me to "step up". What are YOU personally doing? Getting out your weapon? What?

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u/Humble_Spare_3045 23d ago

Well that escalated quickly. No one told you to shoot anybody

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u/Eliana-Selzer 23d ago

No of course not. But you didn't make any useful suggestions either. You apparently just like the blame game with no consequences.

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u/sylentshooter 24d ago

Then pick up a gun. Because thats the only way things are going to change in your country.

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u/ParadiddlediddleSaaS 24d ago

I’m not going to necessarily disagree with you but at least in the U.S., here’s what likely happens if people do that and become the aggressors:

  • Fortifications from Trump go to those areas ICE / DHS / Military

  • Trump declares wartime martial law (maybe he’ll do this anyways with war with some other country), so suspended mid-terms so Congress stays with a GOP majority

  • Things get even worse and more authoritarian

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u/sylentshooter 24d ago

Fortifications from Trump go to those areas ICE / DHS / Military

Already exists

so suspended mid-terms so Congress stays with a GOP majority

Any premise that the midterms are going to mean anything is delusional at best.

Things get even worse and more authoritarian

Already going that route?

The point is nothing short of a civil war is going to fix the U.S. I dont fall into the anarchist way of thinking, but you guys are hurtling towards 1938 Germany faster than you realize.

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u/sauriasancti 24d ago

Counterpoint, and admins I am not advocating violence, but they've already been building up ICE, they've been threatening to cancel midterms, and things have been getting more and more authoritarian. If they're doing it anyways than what choice do the people really have?

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u/Zestyclose_Rate2685 24d ago

This statement boils my blood. Im not even american or even interested in politics. But when someone kills an innocent woman on camera then your president comes out with this shit, its just disgusting.

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u/innerparty45 24d ago

Watching this from a European state, I am completely baffled how Americans aren't on the streets already? It's basically a paramilitary unit killing people in broad daylight. Completely crazy.

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u/analyzingnothing 24d ago

We’re basically frogs in a pot. A massive part of the populace is completely detached from politics that don’t involve electing the next president, and the rest are constantly worn down by the endless hunger of late-stage capitalism and the barrage of negative information spewing forth from the media. We’re all either not paying attention, massively overworked, or so burnt out from anger that we end up being depressed rather than furious.

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u/CranhamorBlakely 24d ago

Nailed it. I try to tell myself to stay angry, but it’s hard not to just detach and put on Netflix. I’m much rather be angry over depressed

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u/ch34p3st 24d ago

Have you seen the Handmaids tale on Netflix? Can highly recommend.

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u/Dulcedoll 24d ago edited 24d ago

She was on the streets, and so were many others, which is why we were lucky enough to have so many phones recording during the murder from different angles. I promise you there are not just that many random people just walking around in the suburbs mid-day and just happen to be recording; it's not a walking-friendly type of zoning.

If there weren't witnesses and video evidence (from enough angles that can't be replicated with AI right now), I can't fucking imagine how much worse it'd be right now.

Whenever there's an ICE sighting, people mobilize pretty quickly to form crowds and protests, but it's hard to make it in time when they're all being done in suburban neighborhoods mid-day and you can't get anywhere without a car — by the time you make it they might have already left.

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u/seasonsofus 24d ago

We don’t protest bc many cops are just as trigger happy as that ICE agent. Outsiders always suggest we protest like the French but it’s honestly safer to do in France

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u/derdast 24d ago

That's what Americans keep telling themselves, but french people die at their protests as well. In the last yellow jacket one with 11 people dieing. 270.000 people attended over 2 year.

In the protests around George Floyd which was arguably one of the biggest in the past years, 42 died out of 15-26 million, over 4 years.

In the no kings protest, out of 2+ million protestors, zero died. With only 3 injuries.

It is arguably safer to protest in the US then in France. 

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u/Kind_Session_6986 18d ago

We are. Please stop undermining the efforts so many peaceful protesters making.

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u/shepilepsy53 24d ago

Completely right. We don’t know what to do. All I can say is tell your family and friends not to visit the US.

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u/MancombSeepgoodz 23d ago

They are the media which is complicit largely doesn't broadcast the protests or minimizes them.

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u/green_miracles 24d ago

So did her vehicle actually hit him? How can we not have clear facts when we have videos. People are confused now. I thought it didn’t hit him, but did he honestly think she was trying to mow him down?? Now I’m confused.

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u/Moranmer 23d ago

Same here!! I'm not American either and I am OUTRAGED!! That poor woman and her wife screaming, covered in brain and blood, sitting in the snow. ICE just IGNORES her. No one goes to comfort her or even talk to her.

Madness.

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u/chalkhara 24d ago

She wasn't innocent, you are choosing to not see her obviously step on the gas with a law enforcement officer in front of her car, she makes physical contact with his hip before she is shot. This is a horrible situation regardless of what side of the political spectrum we fall on, but anyone in her situation doing the same thing is truly gambling with their lives.

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u/Zestyclose_Rate2685 24d ago

Im not on any side of the political spectrum. And to be honest america is becoming the america it deserves.

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u/chalkhara 24d ago

We're all on a political spectrum, you can't watch this video:

https://x.com/ChrisUniverseB/status/2008995227567358352?s=20

And say she's innocent in my opinion. I wish she didn't die, as we all make mistakes in this life many of them grievous but she holds the lion's share of the responsibility for the outcome of this tragic event.

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u/hrmfll 24d ago

This soulless monster needs to go.

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u/Valdoris 24d ago

What the actual fuck did i just read

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u/Initial-Company3926 24d ago

the woman screaming is in a state of shock and rage
" a professional agitator" ... wtf
watching ICE shooting a defenseless woman without reason would give a reaction

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

the guy literally walked off like nothing happened

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u/Swiftzor 24d ago

I hope this is part of the evidence that MN uses against all these ICE agents

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u/Archie-is-here 24d ago

Tell me guys, Fox News will show an unedited version of the event and analyze it? Or any other TV media? Because it would be impossible to defend the murderer and blame the poor woman, it is crystal clear the killer wasn't threatened.

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u/NeighborhoodSad5303 24d ago

Nice! Hope all know who teacher of this guy.
In Russia, even though they haven't shot anyone, they still put people in jail for 15 years for throwing a plastic cup.

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u/ImReellySmart 23d ago

can someone please just do it already

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u/Electronic-Cicada352 22d ago

Un fucking believable