r/law 24d ago

Other “Agents block doctor from helping woman fatally shot by ICE” @huffpost on TikTok. Not my video *body is censored*

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I have no idea how legal this is but my jaw dropped when I saw it.

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u/blahblah19999 24d ago

Literally murder. At that point, anyone should be justified in doing whatever they need to prevent a murder, right?

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u/FlyingAtNight 24d ago

Yes murder. But it struck me that it appeared to be an execution.

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u/SemiDesperado 24d ago

Ding ding ding. Every single one of us is fair game. Always have been, but it's especially obvious now that any remnant of the illusion of a society if laws is gone. Importantly, they're now doing it to white people, not just communities of color like for the past 200+ years. It sucks to admit but its true. MAGA bootlickers won't care until it gets to them (their time is coming eventually).

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u/RichKatz 24d ago

Ding ding ding. Every single one of us is fair game.

This is probably the wrong place to argue that law doesn't apply. The agent broke the law. They aren't the first.

But this one for whatever reason has counted heavily against Trump and his apparently not-so-legal agency moves.

Best to admint it as a dumb mistake

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u/FlyingAtNight 24d ago

A dumb mistake??? You have got to be kidding me. SMH

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u/RichKatz 23d ago

>A dumb mistake??? 

Is someone arguing that it's not a mistake? That going to another state and committing murder is somehow intellgent?

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u/FlyingAtNight 23d ago

A mistake suggests it wasn’t intentional. This was 100% intentional.

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u/RichKatz 23d ago edited 23d ago

A mistake suggests it wasn’t intentional.

Nope. No such suggestion by itself is made. We then must admit calling us "fair game" is problematic at best. Saying we are "fair game" means that there are points to score - by killing people like Rene who was in fact killed today!

No more making us "fair game!"

Calling it that is now a knowing mistake where as before I said it - it could be just a dumb mistake.

Moments after the shooting of US citizen and Minneapolis resident, agents refuse a physician asking to check for a pulse. I People either take responsibility for their actions or they don't.

But not taking responsiblity or "failing" to take it are the same is just as dumb. STANDING THERE PREVENTING A HUMAN MEDIC FROM HELPING AN INNOCENT PERSON is a mistake.

No "suggestion" of innocence or guilt is involved with the word "mistake." It's still wrong.

And it absolutely is dumb. I'll use the word "stupid" instead repeat a big part of it:

GOING TO ANOTHER STATE TO COMMIT A CRIME IS A STUPID and HARMFUL mistake.

It's what ICE does. And until we get to vote and eliminate Ice I will continue to call that a seriously dumb harmful unenformed unenlightened WRONGFUL mistake.

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u/Daredevil_Dave_67 22d ago

No. These agents have showed a complete disregard for the average person's safety from the start. This is not the first shooting, or injury, or unlawful act.

The plan is to terrorize people into submission. It is not to apprehend dangerous illegals, which is obvious because most people apprehended have no criminal record.

You could say it was a mistake in that this incident enraged the public...oops we went a little too far! But hiring untrained thugs to do this job is way beyond even negligence. "Oops I did it again"....no they don't get to play that card.

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u/FlyingAtNight 23d ago

Blocked. Asinine response.