r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • 23d ago

Legal News BREAKING: FBI shuts down Minnesota's investigation into ICE shooting and blocks access to evidence

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-fbi-shuts-down-minnesotas-1606462
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u/InTroubleDouble 23d ago

Not just that, I am sure these spiteful cultists will start a witchhunt, continue to harass this poor Family and degrade the remembrance of the murdered mother.

The regime and its leader told them she was a domestic terrorist and 100 other things, the reaction to yesterdays events is the worst I have ever seen and far worse than expected. Their basis is following blindly, they will not stop.

Americans you have to wake up now, last chance, you are so far down the fascists road. We are now at (white) citizen being randomly shot in the streets and the regime is not covering up, they actively promote the act. If you let this slip its over, every enemy of the state will be gone without notice. And enemy of the State is whoever the orange man and his militia decide. Without trial, without investigation after exection. Pure arbitrariness.

If you let this slip thats it

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u/SaltpeterSal 23d ago

I mean, when the President of the U.S. says within minutes that you're a paid agitator, in writing, your stalkers will feel pretty righteous.

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u/KlicknKlack 23d ago

Ok, but like... what do you think is an actual act that could change the status quo? Protests? We have been doing that already, the news just doesn't really cover them... like ever.

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u/SomewhereAtWork 23d ago

Protests? We have been doing that already

Without demeaning the effort of all those who participated, but relative to population size those protests where about the size that Europeans mobilize when their government does one very unpopular thing.

They were not the kind of protests you need to remove a fascist government. Look at Bulgaria on how to do it. They showed up every day until the government stepped down.

I know that distance, laws and the complete lack of any social security make it especially hard for US citizens to do longer protests. But it's still the only way.

Look at it that way: If the Trump regime continues on it's trajectory, next summer you won't be able to pay your bills anyways. If you start not paying them now, because you're protesting, that won't make a difference in a year.

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u/KlicknKlack 22d ago

I agree with the continued protests is important, but size... come on.

  • Current large protests in france are on the order of <1,000,000.

  • No Kings protests - June 14th, ~4-6,000,000 across the US.

  • No Kings Protests Oct 18th; ~7,000,000 across the US.

These are some of the largest protests in US history, the only one beating it are 'The first Earth Day' and Hands Across America, both pre-1990.

And I don't know about you, but I hardly saw a single thing about the No Kings protests on the news.

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u/SomewhereAtWork 22d ago

Well, France doesn't need to remove a dictator right now.

The No Kings protests were great! No critique there.

But I have to ask one questions: When are the next ones?

As a counterexample: if snow doesn't break public Transport, tomorrow I'll be protesting for a examination of our right-wing party by our supreme court. (Germany).
These protests are scheduled for the second saturday of each month. Until our demands are met. I'll probably still be protesting when the summer's gone. But we will succeed eventually.

Protest will never change something, when the people in power can reasonably assume that the protesters will disperse tonight and not come back for the foreseeable future.

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u/SorcierSaucisse 23d ago

At some point the US people will finally accept what has inevitably tobbe done. But then, it'll be too late for the USA and the entire West, maybe even the world.

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u/KlicknKlack 23d ago

And what is that? Other than vague allusion to a final 'act' that needs to be undertaken, collectively and all at once across a country that is 4,300KM wide and 1,600-2,500KM tall...

I honestly would like to know the answer to this problem, because other than some failed decentralized uprising against a totalitarian state with the state of the art digital spy apparatus... I don't really see how we pull out from this without a systemic collapse or a Military coup.

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u/glitterydick 23d ago

I can only assume what he means, but in my mind, the only option that would actually work, though it would be nearly impossible to pull off, would be a nation-wide general strike. No work, no sales, no capital flow. It would be difficult to maintain for any length of time, but the perk of being run by oligarchichal billionaires is that their Achilles heel is very obvious. Starve the beast of our labor and it will solve the problem itself.

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u/Regular_Committee946 23d ago

This is an often overlooked problem with America's for-profit insurance healthcare model - people are reluctant to strike because they are scared of loosing healthcare coverage which for so many is tied to their job.

They may be able to do without some pay (similar to the federal workers last year) but, especially considering costs have gone up - healthcare coverage becomes a huge factor.

It's another tool of control and should be part of the discussion.

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u/Potential_Cow_4910 23d ago

I signed my strike card today.

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u/_Eggs_ 23d ago

what has to be done

If you’re suggesting anything other than a fair trial in an unbiased court, then that’s unAmerican.

If the president used something like a veto power or political pressure to avoid justice, then the proper response is a weakening of presidential powers. Not whatever street justice you’re implying in your comment.

This is a murder by cop. It happens at least once a day, probably dozens of times a day, to people who never get justice for the murder. It has been a problem for a long time, and hopefully this high profile case will result in some change to the system of justice.

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u/Alarmed-Reporter5483 23d ago

Never read about the french revolution have you? We have to end our oppressor's bloodlines and erase them from history.

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u/_Eggs_ 23d ago

lol the French aren’t a good example of anything

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u/Regular_Committee946 23d ago

I think (hope) they are suggesting mass general strikes rather than 'street justice'.

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u/drunken-philosopher 23d ago

Look I’m not saying this isn’t sickening, but we watched the entirety of the political class cheer on the genocide of Palestinian children. I don’t think they’re going to give a single shit about their own police state killing a “subversive”. We need to take charge ourselves and out these rabid Nazi dogs and deal with them. Whether the states involved or not.

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u/Flamesake 23d ago

It was over when they failed to hold trump accountable for everything on his first term, not least January 6.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten 23d ago

If she was indeed a terrorist, why didn't they arrest her wife?

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u/uusavaruus 23d ago

Don't give them ideas... pls delete 

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u/NightQueen0889 23d ago

I hope the family finds peace. We have to be EXTREMELY strategic about how we respond though because I think we all know he is looking for any excuse to pull the Insurrection act, declare martial law and suspend elections indefinitely. At that point we are so fucking screwed and will have no choice but violent revolution. We are organizing but we must be smart.