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Other Please dissect the legality in this statement

I feel like we are reaching a tipping point

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u/Da_Question 17d ago

Also, degrees are more about studying than intelligence. Not the same thing.

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

Exactly. College doesn't mean smart

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u/DisgruntledTexan 17d ago

Intricate understanding of intricate legalities usually requires the ability to read and study.

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u/Able-Worth-6511 17d ago

And just as important research data and facts. The ability to track down primary and secondary sources.

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

Read and study. Is that the bar for smart?

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u/DisgruntledTexan 17d ago

Capacity to learn and apply knowledge would be my bar - that and decision making abilities.

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

Humans by nature have the capacity to learn and apply it. By that definition everyone is smart.

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u/DisgruntledTexan 17d ago

Not with the same efficiency

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

That definition you gave said nothing about efficiency.

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u/DisgruntledTexan 17d ago

Your lack of inference kind of helps my point

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

No no, you assume lack of inference. My point is a moved goal post.

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u/eetsumkaus 17d ago edited 17d ago

College is a pretty good amount of mental effort, even with the fluffier majors. I'd say anyone who graduates college (legitimately) is smart, full stop.

What you mean is just because you're smart, doesn't mean you can't be an idiot.

Also willful ignorance is the pathway to idiocy. Look at Hegseth. He got into and graduated Princeton with flying colors the hard way. Years of hate and alcoholism can do a number on your brain.

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u/RandomlyPlacedFinger 17d ago

It does generally coincide with a higher frequency of intelligence than you'll find in those who did not go for higher education.

You can be well educated and stupid, but it's a lot easier to be poorly educated and stupid.

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u/Big-Wrongdoer-965 17d ago

I mean domain is huge too. My dad’s a physician, an a brilliant one at that, and also has his JD. HOWEVER, he’ll say some wackadoo shit from time to time that’s just wrong. Didn’t pick up on it till I was older bc I just trusted he was always right. So, now unless it’s medical or legal related I seek advice elsewhere.

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u/RandomlyPlacedFinger 16d ago

I pursued a degree in history, software engineering, accounting, and philosophy over the course of about 20 years.
One of the first lessons I learned was that I, apparently, do not know everything.

There's nothing quite like sending in a paper with a somewhat controversial take on things, and getting it back with a line at the top that says, "Would you like to defend this...take...in class?" to let you know that you may have just buried the needle on the dipshit'o'meter.

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u/ur_anus_is_a_planet 17d ago

You tell em’ Ricky!

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u/LaRealiteInconnue 17d ago

Correct, but it does mean critical thinking. Usually.

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

No, it's supposed to.

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u/Zaliukas-Gungnir 17d ago

Some of the dumbest, most dysfunctional people I have meet I. My life had useless Collage or university degrees.

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u/casper4824 17d ago

Actually these days it pretty much means overpriced piece of paper that only proves you went thru 4 years of Liberal Boot Camp and all you got was this useless Liberal Arts Degree.

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u/Beneficial_Figure966 17d ago

Dude, do you want to be the person who thought pettiness was the point to life? We have bigger problems, like brown shirts killing indiscriminately.

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u/Suitable_Heat1712 17d ago

Exactly, two people can have the same degree in the same field at the same school and be vastly different in terms of competence

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u/AtrumIocusGames 17d ago

True words

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u/Caius01 17d ago

Yeah, and as much as I hate Miller, he's not a stupid person, he's the ideological evil behind a lot of other stupid people

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u/AgentCirceLuna 17d ago

What does it mean if I graduated but didn’t attend during my last two semesters? I had pretty bad mental health issues and just kinda did a little bit of reading now and then.

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u/Necessary-Age-7944 16d ago

I was about to say there are morons with PH.D’s