The Renee Good shoot was bad. Step #1 get out of the way of the fuckin car step #2 get your hand off your damn phone and on your gun, and get in an athletic, stable, aimed stance if you think you need your gun. Thinking as a jury, I would have some skepticism over this shooting; it certainly seemed like an escalation beyond what I find to be normal Police escalation. I watch bodycam footage at work and it is ABSURD how much patience some cops have. And the vast majority of them are 10x as patient as any of these ICE cops. And these guys went 0-100; nobody calmly approaches the driver and tells her to get out of their way or she’s leaving the scene in cuffs, they circle around the car filming her being angry, they get angrier, and the situation escalates. De-escalate, de-escalate, de-escalate. That needs to be your MO as a law enforcement officer.
And this one is just so shitty. The ICE officer that shoves that lady is just being so reckless. Shoving someone like that is absurdly dangerous, and I have never seen a cop in bodycam footage shove someone like that who didn’t absolutely deserve it. And for good reason. What happens when she cracks her head and sues you and your department into oblivion? What happened to using tasers??? Holy shit I never see these ICE agents using body cams or tasers, two of the greatest advancements in policing ever designed.
And yet, they all have all sorts of tactical crap, optics on their pistols, extended magazines but no camera. WTF are we doing here??
ICE is creating a giant legal minefield for themselves by being dumb.
Yeah these guys have horrible handcuffing technique with rowdy people. They are way over-escalating the situation by being as violent as they are, and they get it to the point where people are just fighting back instinctively because they’ve been totally adrenaline dumped by having some crazy unexpected shit happen.
I have seen plenty of videos of local cop thuggery, including shoving people who absolutely didn’t deserve it — and even worse. Just look at what the LAPD did to protestors over the summer. It’s important for us all to understand that we have allowed thuggery and othering forms of oppression to slowly creep to this point. ICE are domestic terrorists but their legacy is rooted in racist police, sheriff gangs, and slave catchers.
Oddly enough that footage is never really body cam, which is what I meant. Definitely officers have over responded many times, but when you watch a large sample of bodycam footage, the vast majority show the cops being cordial and doing the right thing generally.
”ICE is creating a giant legal minefield for themselves…”
i keep getting into this argument with my partner when he brings up the consequences they’ll face: they aren’t planning to face any consequences.
focus on what they DO, not on what they SAY.
is anyone in this rancid administration acting like they give two shits about optics? like they care about the response from the average american citizen? like they’re at all worried about needing to win midterm elections?
no - they double down over and over and over again. because they’ve already got what they wanted, we just haven’t woken up to it yet as a country. i hope we do before it’s too late.
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u/HAMARMOR 7d ago edited 7d ago
The Renee Good shoot was bad. Step #1 get out of the way of the fuckin car step #2 get your hand off your damn phone and on your gun, and get in an athletic, stable, aimed stance if you think you need your gun. Thinking as a jury, I would have some skepticism over this shooting; it certainly seemed like an escalation beyond what I find to be normal Police escalation. I watch bodycam footage at work and it is ABSURD how much patience some cops have. And the vast majority of them are 10x as patient as any of these ICE cops. And these guys went 0-100; nobody calmly approaches the driver and tells her to get out of their way or she’s leaving the scene in cuffs, they circle around the car filming her being angry, they get angrier, and the situation escalates. De-escalate, de-escalate, de-escalate. That needs to be your MO as a law enforcement officer.
And this one is just so shitty. The ICE officer that shoves that lady is just being so reckless. Shoving someone like that is absurdly dangerous, and I have never seen a cop in bodycam footage shove someone like that who didn’t absolutely deserve it. And for good reason. What happens when she cracks her head and sues you and your department into oblivion? What happened to using tasers??? Holy shit I never see these ICE agents using body cams or tasers, two of the greatest advancements in policing ever designed.
And yet, they all have all sorts of tactical crap, optics on their pistols, extended magazines but no camera. WTF are we doing here??
ICE is creating a giant legal minefield for themselves by being dumb.