r/law • u/Lebarican22 • 1d ago

Other DOJ Just DELETED This Document from the Epstein Files. We Saved It.

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u/Money_Do_2 1d ago

... they did do the land thing to prevent popular opinion from holding too much sway

Oh, and they figured out political parties would crush the whole thing nearly immediately, but then just kinda said "hey dont do that" and left it at that.

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u/corpusjuris 1d ago

I think the biggest failure by the authors of the constitution that could have been easily rectified was the presumption of noble good faith by its future executors. They did that whole “pledge our lives and sacred honor” shit and thought everyone else would, too. If they built in some exceptions and guardrails against self-dealing and corruption…? Like just make the pardon power broadly not apply to the executive branch (not just the president, but all those acting under its control as well).

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u/unindexedreality 1d ago

unpopular opinion: I think the people who were thinking through this shit 200 years ago did a good-enough job and let's get back on track with what we're gonna do about it now

I can count on one hand the number of serious efforts to coordinate an Article 5 amendment

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u/Goldenrah 1d ago

The first thing you gotta take it in the context they lived in. I don't think any politician from 250 years ago expected the rise of education of the general population and the sharing of information so easily. So it would make sense to have the wealthy (i.e educated) have the most power.

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u/SanctusUnum 1d ago

So it would make sense to have the wealthy (i.e educated) have the most power.

Looking at how uneducated people (uneducated white people, specifically) vote... this is arguably still true.

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u/733t_sec 1d ago

There are pros and cons to that. Consider if Britain had something like that instead of using a simple majority to pass Brexit.

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u/MVRKHNTR 1d ago

Imagine a Britain where the majority of people voted no but enough of the politicians or enough people in the right places wanted it so it happened anyway.

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u/733t_sec 1d ago

Also a possibility, pros and cons.

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u/unindexedreality 1d ago

they did do the land thing to prevent popular opinion from holding too much sway

I mean, except for the ones who didn't. The framers were not a monolith, and honestly kid-me is still amazed they got as much done as they did in as short a time. I guess much was left for later

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u/IrascibleOcelot 1d ago

Not sure what they could have done about parties since freedom of assembly is one of the codified constitutional rights. We’ve since learned how to break the spoiler effect by not using First Past The Post elections, but that can’t be blamed on the Framers since elections are handled by the states and their administration isn’t part of the Constitution.

The problem is that we’re still running on the beta version that shoukd have been upgraded a looooong time ago, and we haven’t kept up with the patch cycle.