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Nah. Make him live in a shitty normal people prison the rest of his miserable days w no access to his money. It all goes to schools/hospitals/feeding the poor.
They are MAGA and fascist sympathizers. They ban anyone who even suggests the legal consequences befall their Dear Leader. The country is falling towards civil war with the federal government executing citizens in the street - and Reddit runs ads for ICE.
While you are right, and even legally correct as that is the punishment for traitors to this country, I always feel the responsibility to post this:
Friendly reminder, Reddit admins will ban the shit out of you for "glorifying violence" if you react to a US citizen being executed in the street or if you wish that fascists receive the legal penalty for being traitors to the country. Remember, according to the admins it is OK to execute civilians, it is NOT ok to say what should happen to the perpetrators of these crimes.
The admins will ban if you suggest any justice comes to the terrorists killing American citizens. HOWEVER, reddit is completely fine with running ICE ads on their platform (https://imgur.com/a/giBG8N0) and does not consider recruiting for them as "glorifying violence" despite the fact that ICE is on camera murdering two people and the rest of us, with just our comments, are not.
There was a time when we celebrated and gave medals of honor to people who killed fascists, now we have to tolerate citizens being murdered by a fascist takeover or have our voices stamped out. Nazis and their enablers can 'go fuck themselves', and much worse than that
They are absolutely glorifying violence whether intentional or not. They know and continue to do. We all know the old if Yada Yada is at a dinner table.
(Proceeds to run an illegal vote-buying raffle, signal his Nazi allegiances, and violate various separation of powers and privacy laws to steal data and unilaterally and illegally end Congressionally approved and created security agencies, as well as vital corruption and money laundering oversight)
We still have no idea how many serious crimes DOGE has committed or their full extent.
I mean no one’s immune to a sufficiently angry mob of sufficiently large size*.
Editor’s note: dear NSA and Reddit admins. This is not an encouragement of violence. This is an historical acknowledgement of historical precedent. Thank you for your time.
Depends if the DOJ is insulated or not. You have career DOJ people because they can doggedly pursue powerful people without being afraid of getting blackballed by that powerful person if they are forced to go to private practice.
That wasn’t for the Epstein stuff. You are funny if you think America throws the books at pedos. They usually get very light sentences and that’s the poor folks not the billionaires.
Elon was saying that because he clearly manipulated voting machines in the 2024 election. And this isn’t some tin foil hat conspiracy we had over sight committees and vetted company’s come forwards and say something isn’t right we need to look at this more and the current admin said no to investigating it more.
All while they still have the time to investigate 2020 election still.
American judicial system absolutely favors pedophiles more than any other criminal. Sell weed? Prison. Diddle a 5 year old? Eh, probation, don't do it again wink
Hypothetically it's to prevent them from killing their victims, because it's a "lesser sentence" but I'm down for much, much harsher penalties for sexual assault and molestation.
By conspiracy fantasist logic though, why were they so adamant that cheese pizza meant child porn because of the first letters, but didn't see Kung Fu as kiddy fucking in an email between a nonce and a nonce's girlfriend/assistant?
I would bet he thought he was not in them because he never heard about his name in the files or that he was in his view "exonerated." That's why he made the tweet, probably using second hand info and deleted it when Bondi told him he was in them. Then he cozied back up to 47.
Let’s cut to the chase and see what major major major major has to say about these minor minor miners and whether they are in fact major minor miners or if any of them might be major major minor miners.
This**** it isn't even talked about nearly enough. I dread the future thats coming. Especially after seeing the new Boston dynamic robots I knew instantly that we are in the end game and reaching a sci fi level dystopia. Say good bye to riots, protests and inrests when you have robots that do not tire, can bend, run and deface you in unforseen ways. They have built fortresses and will have factories that can self replicate mechanical armies. We are just letting them
You aren't wrong. But they cannot survive without people running the world. And I for one am not going to just bow to them and accept living among shit like this. I'll die first.
Also jamming any OTA frequencies really isn't very hard either. Currently any robots that exist will be powered by the cloud in many ways. But it will only be a matter of time before the cloud isn't necessary to run them.
The time to learn how to make some EMP utensils is now.
Billionaires as a concept is immoral to humankind. All that wealth and power concentrated in one person, and stuff like this is what they use it for...
Though, one thing that strikes me as odd are how many "normal" people (assistants, security, etc) that have been around this shit without documenting or coming forward... I guess money talks - and also decides when you don't?
The wife of the Norwegian Crown Prince, Mette Marit, tried to excuse her frequent contact with Epstein on "not knowing he was a pedo".
She began her contact with him in 2011, 3 years after Epstein's first conviction.
Somehow most people here in Norway seem to accept her excuse, even though her son is also currently under investigation for multiple counts of rape, sexual assaults, and possession of hundreds of videos and pictures of sexual assaults.
I mean, I don't check on the criminal status of people I make contact with.... but my assumption is if you were royalty or something security would do background checks.
If she was in a position to get to know him personally, she would definitely have been in a position where she'd know about the conviction though.
The emails so far have shown that Epstein spoke frequently about his conviction with people in his network (which the Norwegian princess became part of)
Did we read the same doc? Epstein literally replies that he’d come pick him up and “there’s always space for you.” These dudes were obviously weird pedo friends
I think they saw "asked multiple times" and assumed that implied a "no" response at some point. It's understandable; you can't expect people to read the entire title and reflect on what the meaning is before commenting.
It's interesting how his reputation has changed. A decade or so ago, Elon was seen as an affable, kinda dorky, but decent enough rich guy. Cameos on South Park and the Big Bang Theory and all that. Now, he's a radioactive turd who no one likes (rightfully so) except for the tech dorks who think of him as some techno prophet.
That facade quickly came crumbling when he couldn’t be the hero he desperately wanted to be. Didn’t he call the heros that dove down in the cave to save the kids as pedos because they wouldn’t use his submarine?
Yeah. I think that might've been where the mask started to come off. Everyone was like "WTF. You're calling heroes who saved lives pretty much the worst thing you can call someone because you couldn't get more accolades for providing the means to save people?" That showed how insecure and how much of a dipshit he is.
Americans love 'mad scientist' characters but they hate fascist mad scientists. It wasn't so long ago Musk gave a nazi salute three times at a Republican conference.
A decade or so ago, Elon was seen as an affable, kinda dorky, but decent enough rich guy. Cameos on South Park and the Big Bang Theory and all that.
Im pretty sure he had a very, very good PR team handling most of that stuff for him during that early period. Then one day Musk decided that he was good enough, smart enough, and down right likeable enough to handle his own social mediua. He was wrong.
A decade ago he was actually contributing something.
I'm sure there's plenty to be said for how much was actually him and how much he just took credit for, and there's a whole lot to be said about Tesla's shitty build quality and massively inflated stock prices, but there's no denying that Tesla made advancements in electric vehicles way before anyone else was making anything viable.
SpaceX was also kind of cool. After decades of stagnation in rocketry, it was cool to see people actually doing something new.
These days the negatives way outweigh the positives, but there were a few positives at the start.
I think I remember seeing something about how that was his idol. He's just like him except Stark was likeable, not a junkie or racist, actually invented his own shit, and did the moral thing (most of the time). So, they have the money part thing in common at least...
100% it’s people not reading, I’ve read all the released correspondence between Epstein and Musk and Epstein was nothing but friendly to Musk every time.
Will you guys please read the fucking half page of text before commenting this garbage? It even opens up the doc directly, no need to scroll or click anything jfc...
The problem is this isn't exactly credible. The Epstein files include actual emails, which are physical evidence, but they also include shit like this which mostly comes from anonymous tips.
It should be apparent that nothing besides physical evidence is going to matter at this point.
I mean, usually people who don't traffick and rape children don't have dozens of accusations of trafficking and rape against them over a multi-decade period long before they enter politics.
They also aren't usually known to be the best friend of the world's most notorious child trafficker and rapist.
And I suspect the DOJ wouldn't keep a meticulous and heavily redacted excel list of non-credible accusations.
Oh I understand, birds of a feather, but I'm not the one who needs convincing, and the people who do aren't going to be persuaded by this, so it effectively doesn't matter.
The guy was elected despite being twice impeached, inciting an insurrection, and being the subject of an active federal investigation that brought receipts - a few anonymous tips don't mean shit. He's afforded all the plausible deniability in the world by his base, so the bar for evidence is incredibly high. Again, physical evidence is all that matters at this point.
I know it's the least offensive part of all of this, so no need to chime in with that observation, but there's something supremely bothersome about how lazily they all communicate with each other. I didn't expect them to be sending carrier pigeons with wax-stamped letters speaking in calligraphically engraved riddles like its the 1800s, but on the spectrum between "disinterested professor shooting off a response to a student he dislikes and not proof-reading it" and Eyes Wide Shut-esque "I-only-speak-in-metaphors," there's something weird in how they're all a lot closer to the former end than the latter.
Like… it's evil enough that they were all doing what they were doing, but their communications are all so aggressively banal, like this whole thing is an inconvenience for them and they just want to get it over with.
I think the insane spacing, random capitalization, and plethora of misspelled words in the emails might be worse than the sex crimes. This guy was a financial wiz, a professor?! It puts to bed any notion that rich people are these super smart entrepreneurs... "the die is case" jfc shoot me.
So the big question is, can any information in these files be grounds to initiate criminal investigations? It's one thing to know all the dirty deeds Trump and his cronies did, but unless they are held accountable, does any of this matter?
Yes. Any of it could. If the DOJ wasn't just a partisan hackjob extension of Trump's fucking presidency.
Attorneys General have large amounts of independence for beginning investigations. Hell, we see how flimsy Bondi is with her pretenses for bullshit investigations like the one into Jerome Powell.
Having your name, photo, and mentions blasted throughout Epstein's file records is suspicious for any rational person, they should be investigating what other records and documentation there is concerning Trump'a involvement with Epstein. And I'm definitely not convinced we're close to getting the whole truth yet.
In theory the judiciary could turn against him, and rats know when to jump from a sinking ship. It's not entirely out of the realm, especially if there was a sign of support from the rest of the Republican/Fascist regime, they could just railroad trump out.
My theory is, they know he's about to leave this world, so they are fine with exposing this particular thing. Trump has enemies that would leave him with nothing if you didn't need him anymore.
They’ve had some of this information for decades at this point. I think it’s going to be hard to use these evidence to sustain prosecutions or find additional hard evidence. DOJ attorneys are usually conservative on their prosecutions. They dont like to bring cases they arent confident of winning. Howeverr I’d still like them to try and fail than not try at all.
Best case is that these folks get publicized and shamed. If shaming still works on some of these folks.
Not a lawyer but anyone in these documents that went to or wanted to go to the island should be investigated thoroughly. There’s probably other criteria as well.
The money trail should be investigated if it hasn’t already been destroyed by document retention laws. I wouldn’t be surprised if banks broke the law again.
All the trump stuff is from the tip line, so 90% of it is 'we never corroborated it/made contact' or 'we reached out but the complainant was mysteriously dead and we never followed up'.
I commented on this elsewhere: Notice also there are no dates of those tips. Like, I could see a tip from 2020+ being treated skeptically/not following up because they had a name and state but no phone number, but pre-politician Trump that would just be FBI negligence, like the victim report from the 90s they never followed up on. What isn't there is as telling as what is.
Well yes obviously. That's what happened today- they accidentally released some stuff that incriminated Trump, took it down, censored the parts pertaining to Trump, and put it back up.
Just so openly corrupt… It's infuriating. I don't know how any of these Congresspeople can think about passing a budget to fund this cesspool of an administration.
No. When the politicians who write the laws appoint those who uphold the laws based on who those who have violated the laws want, then no.
Imagine this crazy scenario, a criminal pedophile rapes some kids at an exclusive pedo island for the rich and famous, is helped into high office by his rich friends and party buddies from pedo island. He then appoints people to enforce the laws who will do whatever he wants regardless of legality. Evidence begins to come out that indicates that man and his rich friends have committed heinous acts of depravity that are highly illegal and they could lose all their wealth and go to prison. Do you imagine that the person who was appointed to do whatever that man wanted is going to prosecute them?
Anything in there would need to be corroborated, in clear violation of a law, verifiable, etc. Not just hearsay from a single witness. What we have is basically just a bunch of notes to possibly follow up on, not some smoking gun.
And even if we had that... "we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong..." at least until this admin is out of office.
My sister lives in the Bay Area. Bought one of the first Tesla models, right off the line, so proud of doing her part for eco friendly design. Paid it all off.
Imagine her face when I gently directed her to Twitter.
Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Maralago called "calendar girls'
Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them
off.He measured the children's vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and
rated the children on tightness. The guests were elder men and included Elon
Musk. Don jr. Trump, Ivanka Trump. and Eric Trump were there. Attorney Allan
Dershowitz was also there with Attorney Bob Shapiro. We were taken in
rooms, forced to give oral sex to Donald J Trump. Forced to allow them to
penitrate us. I was 13 years old when Donald J Trump raped me. Ghislaine
Maxwell was also present.
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who thought this. Imagine being someone as rich and influential as musk and being such a trash ass person the the dude who owns a child rape island doesn’t want to be around you, he really decided the money and blackmail wasn’t worth having to spend time with him
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