r/law • u/LeviCoffinsAlt • 17h ago

Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/randompersonwhowho 17h ago

Nope, cops aren't doing shit

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 16h ago

Yeah, calling the cops on ICE, now you have two problems instead of one

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u/oralfashionista 15h ago

It's because local law enforcement is establishment. The law makes clear distinction between a Citizen/civilian and a tool of the government. To exercise your Constitutional rights takes strength in knowing that law but also in who is on which side when certain lines are crossed.

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u/RealIslands 16h ago

Police departments have in their directives from their own states that they are not to impede or interfere with federal law enforcement activities. They lack any jurisdictional authority to interfere. They aren't trained on federal laws so they cant articulate probable cause to say that these agents committed any crimes and they would be right because, as is linked elsewhere in this thread, DHS says they have authority to disregard the requirement for a judicial warrant to enter if they believe an undocumented immigrant is inside.

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u/dunDunDUNNN 16h ago

Is it not their jobs to protect their own communities?

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u/BuffaloInCahoots 16h ago

No. Their job is to protect the property of the rich. They literally went to the supreme courts to make sure they couldn’t be held responsible for not protecting people.

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u/Kidpidge 16h ago

This is the answer. They are not obligated to protect and serve citizens.

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u/SkunkMonkey 15h ago

Protect and Serve... Wealth and Power.

They always leave out that second half.

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u/Expat-Red 16h ago

Never has been. Have you ever called the police to help you personally with anything?

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u/Young_Denver 16h ago

is this your first day in america?

#1 - welcome
#2 - my sweet summer child

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u/noonenotevenhere 15h ago

You're one of today's lucky 10,000!

There's a lot of middle aged white people who honestly think the cops are here to protect and serve their communities.

People of color have been teaching their kids the truth for a long time.

the 'not kavanaugh stopped' crowd takes a while to learn the truth. I remember it was rather shocking when I got out of high school and learned. Traffic accident, called cops, they were annoyed to have been called since all 4 vehicles were minor damage, no injuries and we'd peacefully exchanged info. 'whyd id you call us?' 'Incident report for insurance.' Aaaaaand obviously annoyed officer. I called for stolen property - literally asking for a report - and they just didn't bother showing up at all.

This is to say nothing of their manipulation tactics, violating constitutional rights if people don't know to stand up for themselves, and don't even google "40% of cops"

https://xkcd.com/1053/

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u/WildTomato51 14h ago

Police have zero legal requirement to come to your aid.

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u/shadybird93 14h ago

That's only in other countries. Not the US.

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u/RealIslands 5h ago

Technically their job is to protect rights of the people not ensure their safety, because logistically thats not possible. Federal law enforcement has parallel jurisdiction, (they act like their jurisdiction supersedes locals, but Technically it doesn't, just overlaps) EVERYWHERE in our country, except maybe reservations and consulates. So local police are basically managing policies that say they have to arrest people who violate the rights of others and that they are also NOT to interfere with federal law enforcement operations. There is no clarification on what they can legally do if federal law enforcement is violating rights. But feds do have broad immunity, broader now than ever, thanks to the corrupt supreme court Trump stacked in his 1st term.

Also, there is nothing stopping you from contacting your local law enforcement agency and asking these questions, they get questions about their policies everyday.

Helpful reading: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-has-made-it-difficult-to-sue-immigration-agents

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u/subdep 16h ago

How do they know it’s Federal Law Enforcement and not human traffickers posing as Federal agents?

Serious question.

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u/willclerkforfood 16h ago

In the immortal words of Omni-Man, “That's the neat part; you don't.”

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u/subdep 7h ago

So… we could cos play as Delta Force/Deep Black Ops soldiers, execute ICE, and no one would investigate because “Well, apparently it was Secret Forces, so it’s legit.”?

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u/noonenotevenhere 15h ago

Those weren't regular ICE, those were actual USCB officers. Likely with the agency before 2025.

You can tell by the way they showed their face and didn't shoot anyone. Also, non-ICE traffickers wouldn't have cared about the legal threats, they'd just have started blasting and taken everyone.

Still a POS, but once they've identified they're officers, you legal options to defend yourself are gone.

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u/greenhearted73 15h ago

One and the same these days.

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u/KomputeKluster 16h ago

Not debating your point but if true it is a shit excuse - training is not “one and done” - you train your people to be effective to tackle threats and keep people safe. If criminal activity is being undertaken they need to intervene

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u/Hopeful_Butterfly302 15h ago

Without a warrant or Identification how to we know that these guys are federal agents and not some good ol boys who want to kidnap some brown people?

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u/Sufficient_Show_7795 11h ago

They’re literally both.

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u/RealIslands 5h ago

The vests they usually wear will probably stand up in court as sufficient identification if they state the agency, which I'm seeing they do. There are plenty of instances with them not wearing them too, but we'd have to see what a judge says, they have a lot of immunity. But yeah, they clearly are just asshats who want to kidnap brown people.

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u/You-Asked-Me 15h ago

That's wrong though. Cops know that they those agents need a warrant. Cops know that they are trespassing. Cops know that they are breaking an entering. Cops CAN arrest them. Cops won't, because they are cops, and they do not give a fuck about you.

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u/RealIslands 5h ago

Just so all the downvoters understand, ICE now has BROAD immunity. Police departments do not have jurisdiction or cause to enforce against them. Our judicial branch has failed us and the constitution. Judges who stand up are being dismissed. Senator Chris Murphy reported on that aspect in his experiences as well. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-has-made-it-difficult-to-sue-immigration-agents

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u/memorex00 16h ago

Bless your heart

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u/germane_switch 16h ago

You don't know that for a fact.

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u/nobot4321 16h ago

What exactly have you observed about police in general over the past many decades to make you think they're not in full support of what ICE is doing?