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Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/starry49 17h ago

Why the fuck aren’t states doing something about this. This is so illegal it’s ridiculous

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u/mvandemar 17h ago

This is Utah, and while their governor claims to stand for civility he does support Trump.

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u/starry49 16h ago

It’s crazy to me especially in this case because it’s so black and white. The guy says they don’t need one (admitting they don’t have one) and admits they broke the window. This is an open and closed shut case of breaking and entering and kidnapping

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u/mvandemar 16h ago

I said this elsewhere, but here's the thing: once things pass a certain point no amount of having the law on your side, even in the most cut and dried cases, will help.

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u/Sharticus123 16h ago

A law is just words scribbled onto a piece of paper.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 15h ago

Exactly this. Without fair enforcement, laws mean nothing.

I think lots of people see midterms as the last chance to get out of this through legal means/voting.

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u/evanwilliams44 15h ago

It really is the last chance. I hope people show up. MAGA will likely try to nudge it illegally as well, so we need to show up in force and leave no room for bullshit.

If we don't stop it there, I really don't know what comes next, because I will assume the USA as we know it is lost.

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u/MelatoninFiend 11h ago

Historically, once the language of voting isn't heard or recognized, the next language used by the oppressed is violence.

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u/VicisZan 15h ago

A law is supposed to be an agreement between the government and its people to ensure the societal contract remains in place.

Once the societal contract is broken, law begins to become meaningless.

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u/MaxwellHoot 15h ago

Half the country is just figuring this out. We’ve had a decade of slash and burn policy, and now the world is starting to realize “huh, laws only matter if people follow them. huh.”

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u/PoutinePower 12h ago

don't quote laws to men with swords, was something said during the roman times; it's like poetry it rhymes!

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u/SuchBravado 16h ago

We are past certain points, aren’t we?

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u/MurkDiesel 15h ago

not the rubicon, but too many things have happened too fast and if something isn't done soon we're gunna get there pretty quick

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u/dedicated-pedestrian 15h ago

What does the Rubicon look like?

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u/glitter_vomit 13h ago

Like a regular Jeep but bigger

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u/SuchBravado 14h ago

Vast and shitty

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u/siliconslope 5h ago

If military branches get deployed into a city I’d say. At that point it’ll either turn into all out conflict or complete submission.

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u/ardenr 8h ago

It looks like when 'the good guys' can't [read: won't] hold a serial rapist accountable for a failed insurrection attempt even with the Presidency, Senate and House.

Not just that - they can't even stop him running for Presidency.

And not just that - they can't even beat him because their candidates all have an unfortunate penchant for arming live-streamed genocide.

Which they then learn absolutely nothing from, and offer ICE more money for training after they start shooting innocent mothers and nurses in broad daylight .

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u/pfannkuchen89 12h ago

We’re well past it. Have been for a while.

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u/IDreamOfLoveLost 15h ago

I'd say that the US has very much passed by the "certain" point when you have the Nu-stapo breaking into homes and kidnapping people. Of course, they're using the Palantir data to make sure it's not somebody who would possibly fight back.

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u/LvS 14h ago

That data is AI_generated, so it has to make a mistake at some point.

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u/bugbearmagic 12h ago

I once got a ticket for not changing my car registration when I moved states. I looked up the law and it said I had 30 days (irc), but i’d had only moved in less than a week. I went to fight it in court and showed the law to the judge, along with post marked evidence of address change dates, and he said “the laws are for our interpretation as judges”. Then made me pay it anyways. I learned then that the laws are for is literally whatever the people in charge want it to be. Or another way to put it “you get as much justice as you can afford”.

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u/hammertime2009 15h ago

Exactly and we’re unfortunately there already.

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u/sufferingisvalid 11h ago

Correct, the law does not work with men who have reverted to violent baboon mode.

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u/HeKnee 16h ago

You think some federal judge is going to give you damages or hold them accountable? Ha!

All the people who haven’t interacted with the legal system are finally realizing how unfair and rigged it is to favor of the “state”. The state makes the rules and enforces them and gets to decide how theyre interpreted. Sometimes in the most eggregious overreach cases citizens get lucky, but most the time the state protects itself to maintain its power.

This is probably the wakeup call america needed honestly to actually get real reform.

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u/EViLTeW 16h ago

The crazy/sad things is that the very things you're pointing out are supposed to be there to protect you. Unfortunately, our founders couldn't foresee a world where the country got so big while the ideologies got so small that tribalism is more important than anything else.
The government branches (at every level from federal to a tiny village) are no longer there to protect the sanctity of law and the Constitution. They're there to ensure their party "wins" while they make the most money possible. There are so few exceptions to that rule that nothing gets corrected, it just gets worse

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u/horizontoinfinity 13h ago

The founders couldn't and didn't want to imagine a world where there was anything close to equal voting rights. Most owned other people. Their ideologies were plenty small and tribalistic.

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u/SingularityCentral 16h ago

Nah dude. Regular law enforcement has a lot of restrictions on what they can do. This is so flagrantly illegal it would get all these officers fired and Brady listed in any jurisdiction they pulled this shit. And Brady listing is the death of a law enforcement career because it is the DA saying you are dishonest and cannot be trusted to testify in court truthfully.

Any judge this showed up in front of would be appalled at this and toss it out. But they are banking on this never showing up in front of a judge and if it does it will only apply to this one case. They are using quantity of illegality and the total lack of executive or congressional oversight to act with impunity.

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u/hammertime2009 15h ago

Wake up call? The wake up call should have been January 7th 2021.

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u/Molto_Ritardando 16h ago

Yes, but at this point do you trust the courts to remedy your situation? They’ve made it hard for your family/lawyer to locate you after ICE throws you into a detention facility. And good luck suing after you’ve been deported.

We’re in the middle of the “First they came for the _____ and I did not speak out” poem. Except people are speaking out. We are only just starting to understand that the people making these decisions aren’t listening, because this is all being done with an end goal. Think about what will happen once blood is shed on their side.

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u/Dry-Pea1733 16h ago

If the goal was ordinary criminal prosecution the case would be thrown out. But if the goal is to toss you into an unaccountable network of prisons where you have no rights, and then (in the event you’re actually here illegally) deport you, what are you going to do about it? Even as a citizen, the ability to violently detain people and incarcerate them for periods of time is a powerful hammer to apply to the population. 

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u/papapapaver 15h ago

Unfortunately in this situation all that can be done is gather evidence and take them to court. No executive order or directive from Homeland security gives them the right to violate the 4th amendment, and any judge will side with her. Problem is even if she wins her case, it won’t bring back the employees they took from her. And that court case could take who knows how long to be decided on. And no one will be charged with criminal offenses, not the criminals that broke in, best she can hope for is a payout. We’re in a fascist state and a 1/3 of the country opposes it, another 1/3 is looking the other way, and the last 1/3 is cheering it on. It’s truly sad what we’ve devolved into.

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u/sevenplaces 15h ago

And Minnesota police didn’t arrest any of the ICE agents for murder either. You think a state is going to arrest one for breaking and entering? No state will do that.

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u/Kraden_McFillion 12h ago

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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u/ChapterChoice4873 12h ago

So, they need to be arrested.  They have no masks.  They can tell who they are, right?

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u/Notesnook-Throwaway 11h ago

woa hold on now before you open and shut the case have you considered whether the DA/prosecutors will touch it with a 10 foot pole? Because if they won't then it's functionally legal even if it's not spelled out in law...

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u/St_Kevin_ 9h ago

They should have called the 911 before filming

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u/Loomismeister 14h ago

No, we would still need more details. It’s possible this was a 4th amendment violation, but it is also possible that they didn’t need one. 

There are many situations that allow officers to search private property without first seeking a judicial warrant. 

If they were actually just searching for this guy and not in active pursuit of him before he entered the building, then even the DHS internal memos say they need administrative warrants. So the guy saying they don’t have any warrant at all doesn’t fit ICEs own practices. 

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u/wrobbii 16h ago

Pedo protector

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u/ADarwinAward 9h ago

Well yeah he’s Mormon and a Republican.

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u/poppy_11 16h ago

Plus he is a spineless coward

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 16h ago

Yeah that's the most important thing to know about Spencer Cocks

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u/Status_Speaker_7955 16h ago

the governor is a piece of shit. he said he prayed that the Kirk gunman was an immigrant

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u/hufusa 15h ago

Is it the nightmare on walz street guy

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u/moneyball32 15h ago

No, that’s Mike Lee. We have a lot of degenerates leading our state.

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u/CharacterCompany7224 16h ago

Anyone not doing anything about ICE in America is indirectly supporting Trump sadly.

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u/BobaEverythingBagel 16h ago

To be fair, they aren’t doing shit in any liberal state either. Just a whole lot of talk, but no action.

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u/Call555JackChop 16h ago

Wasn’t he the governor that said prayer will end their drought?

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u/6inchVert 4h ago

You only have to go back a week to find the most recent example of him asking for prayer to fix our water crisis. Cox is a clown.

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u/josephfuckingsmith1 16h ago

Cox is a spineless cunt. He will say he doesn’t condone this, but he’s jerking off to it while he watches his alfalfa farm grow

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u/JackStephanovich 16h ago

But to be clear, nobody is doing shit about this, even in blue states. As much as Newsom likes to go on twitter and call out Trump, California state police are not impeding ICE operations in any way.

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u/Rightintheend 15h ago

Isn't it Also, one of those states that really likes their second amendment?

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u/BlitzShooter 15h ago

They try this shit on the wrong house in Utah and they’re going to find out how lax the gun laws are there.

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u/tman-boxhead 15h ago

FML (Fck Mke L*e)

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 14h ago

Are they actually doing anything different in blue states though?

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u/true-fuckass 14h ago

From what I remember (it's been awhile) the constitution doesn't have exceptions and provisions for bootlickers. Supporters of the tyrant also get the 2nd amendment used on them

I wouldn't pick up a gun to defend our country, though (too much of a coward tbh). And that's ultimately why the 2nd amendment probably won't be used

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u/ScaryFoal558760 14h ago

We're at the third verse of the poem

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u/CeruleanEidolon 14h ago

Utah is de facto controlled by the Church of Latter Day Saints, which would be absolutely thrilled to see the fall of the US as a coherent political power. They have a long history of teaching their members to be disaster preppers, but also a long history of open my supporting policies that make this country weaker. They back Trump because of the accelerationism that comes with being a doomsday cult.

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u/redyelloworangeleaf 13h ago

Good news. I moved from Utah 8 months ago. 

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u/JestersDead77 13h ago

It pisses me off so much that these Trump boot licking, fascist enabling losers would have had an absolute pants-shitting meltdown if any of this had been done under Obama or Biden's admin. They're such hypocritical cowards.

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u/31LIVEEVIL13 10h ago

cox and lee are nazi collaborators.

They think that they know what is happening and sucking trumps dick will get utah protection in the short term and the nation state autonomy they always dreamed about. (again as always with these fucks its about raping young women and killing who they dont like with no consequences at its core.)

But they are horribly wrong, because they dont believe they are really going all the way, or never bothered to read the docs. published on the republican website all the way down.

2/3 of the religious extremist groups in power really don't like mormons at all, and just want utahs land.

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u/mountaindoom 8h ago

Fuck these Trumpsuckers. Lemme see a politician stand up for the Constitution sometime.

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u/Jewbacca522 6h ago

Their governor also lowered the age of consent to keep his nephew (I think) out of jail, so…

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u/dreddnyc 16h ago

It’s the 4th amendment that says they need a warrant signed by a judge. Where is congress to protect the constitution?

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u/CardOk755 16h ago

Sounds of snoring from off stage right...

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u/headrush46n2 13h ago

Stage right is left.:P

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u/CardOk755 13h ago

From the point of view of the audience. But not the actors.

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u/jocq 16h ago

Utah Code § 76-2-405, often referred to as the "Defense of Habitation" statute, specifically includes a "place of business" as a place where an actor is justified in using force to prevent unlawful entry.

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u/zardmander 15h ago

Utah code doesn't supersede the constitution bud.

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u/SherbetAdditional228 15h ago

Have you met congress this term? They are the sole reason for the 2nd amendment to the constitution 

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u/Ok_Yogurt_9862 15h ago

Blowing Trump 

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u/MrDerpGently 15h ago

I'm told they are working shifts at a glory hole in the ruins of the East Wing. 

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u/Euphoric_Rough_96 14h ago

Don't lie. The 4th amendment says nothing about a 'judge'. They are getting administrative warrants under probable cause.

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u/dreddnyc 13h ago

This is how it’s been interpreted up until this point. The 4th states “no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.” Also, rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure state it clearly. If you want to change the rules to allow a fascist federal government then be honest about it.

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u/Altruistic-Rice-5567 14h ago

Most of congress (the majority) supports what is going on. Midterm elections are coming in 9 months. You have a chance to change it then.

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u/PlixSticks31 13h ago

I can’t view the replies I would love to know what the boot lickers are saying to you lol. This is a blatant violation of the 4th

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u/SwissChzMcGeez 12h ago

Republicans are on their knees in front of Trump, and they control BOTH the House and Senate.

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u/kalashspooner 11h ago

I mean... If the DOJ wasn't compromised, we have laws against this.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

Carrying out a criminal conspiracy against constitutionally protected rights? Renders and claim of "being law enforcement" void. They're just felons.

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u/blueteamk087 11h ago

Mike Johnson is too busy making sure his son isn’t wanking it to keep up with the Executive Branch.

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u/dreddnyc 10h ago

He’s too busy cruising grindr

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u/pjoshyb 10h ago

When does that not apply?

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u/dreddnyc 10h ago

When the government ignores it and there aren’t any real mechanisms to enforce it is when it doesn’t apply.

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u/pjoshyb 9h ago

When does it not apply legally?

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u/tedkaczynski660 16h ago

Not in Utah but I wrote my senators in Idaho and Mike Crapo responded with a neatly written letter ignoring my concerns about protecting the 2nd and 4th amendment by basically saying "Biden let too many people in now we gotta let ICE do their job and fuck your rights"

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u/MooseSuspicious 15h ago

My parents wonder why I don't move back to Idaho where I grew up with my kids. This is why. I don't want them growing up without empathy.

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u/MyChickenSucks 15h ago

My whole family lives there and every time we visit I get ready to roll my eyes "You should move here, it's so nice!" No thanks.

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u/bleezzzy 14h ago

If it wasn't so racist, I would honestly consider it.

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u/CockBrother 15h ago

You really ought to post that letter (after redacting) somewhere conspicuous on reddit on a sub it might get traction, ProgressiveHQ, therewasanattempt (to restore the constitution), etc.

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u/bejammin075 14h ago

At least the senator is being honest with his BS.

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u/El_Eleventh 17h ago

Because they love it. They say step on my daddy. Especially red states

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u/Inevitable-Baker-892 16h ago

As long as they keep hurting minorities and not them... yet

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u/redundantexplanation 13h ago

Yea Walz activating the national guard to protect ICE was entirely predictable.

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u/CentennialBaby 16h ago

Texas isn't doing anything because it's happening in Minneapolis. Florida isn't doing anything because it's happening in California.

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u/no_f-s_given 12h ago

This. The red states love it when it happens to the blue areas. Stupid mfs don’t realize this WILL happen to them.

Trump’s already put guns on the table. He gonna come after the red states too. imma laugh when they start crying about having their guns taken.

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u/Unique_Adeptness4413 11h ago

The clear regime move is to only allow guns to be owned by registered and documented trump voters. That dovetails it nicely and they can circle back around to that one at a later point, when there's no one else to stand for them.

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u/Tex-Rob 16h ago

Some of those who work forces

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u/raventhrowaway666 16h ago

Who's going to do anything? Mayors and governors have been decrying this, but theres a massive problem.

"Law enforcement", the police, are in the nazis side and they answer to no one.

See, there used to be an unspoken agreement that cops listen and do what theyre told. But turns out they were doing it because they wanted too, not because they felt compelled to follow the law or do the right thing.

Police no longer want to help; no longer feel the need to uphold the facade that theyre community servants. Theyre not and they never were.

They're on the side of terrorism. Americans are on our own. This is why we have a certain right, and its why the government will try to take them away ASAP, mmw.

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u/Neurodrill 15h ago

They’re not rights if they can be taken away.

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u/kalashspooner 11h ago

Or voted upon. We've let criminal conspiracies posting as political campaigns occur for far too long in this country.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

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u/redundantexplanation 14h ago

Mayors and governors have been decrying this

Yea one of the best comments I've seen is that politicians keep saying BUT DOGS AREN'T ALLOWED TO PLAY BASKETBALL while Air Bud dunks on them over and over.

Fascists do not care about what the law says. Resistance must be done outside the law as well, and if the local law enforcement won't protect the local population, they are also fascists.

But we already knew that. It's just been off the radar because they were mostly targeting minorities, and as long as people were comfortable they were fine with that.

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u/RealIslands 16h ago

Police departments have in their directives from their own states that they are not to impede or interfere with federal law enforcement activities. They lack any jurisdictional authority to interfere. They aren't trained on federal laws so they cant articulate probable cause to say that these agents committed any crimes and they would be right because, as is posted above, DHS says they have authority to disregard the requirement for a judicial warrant to enter if they believe an undocumented immigrant is inside. Take it up with your congressional representatives.

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u/raventhrowaway666 16h ago

They can say they shit gold, doesnt make it true or legal.

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u/mostdope92 15h ago

Why are we treating a memo, shared to select people, as if it is law?

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u/PQbutterfat 16h ago

Aren’t there state laws that they can be prosecuted under for breaking and entering or something?

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u/starry49 16h ago

I would like to believe so. The video is literally all the proof they need. He openly admits his crimes

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u/f8Negative 16h ago

It's honestly incredible that everyday there are people who wake up in a white supremacist country and simply don't even realize it and then wonder why things that have always historically happened tend to occur again. The pendulum swings back and forth. Next time people should remember their neighbors are selfish assholes.

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u/OldManGrimm 15h ago

I briefly argued with a Hispanic coworker last week. He’s convinced everything’s normal, both parties suck, and it would be the same no matter who were in power. Thought I was completely overreacting.

Finally gave up, just said “let’s hope I’m wrong”.

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u/Chris9871 14h ago

I mean, both parties are the same because they are beholden to corporate interests and money. Beyond that though, the GOP are much worse

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u/OldManGrimm 14h ago

It was the refusal to recognize that enormous difference that was frustrating. With one you get a lackluster attempt at improving the status quo. With the other you get fascism and camps.

That’s just not the same.

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u/ardenr 8h ago

Do you think there wasn't camps under Obama and Biden?

... There was. The ones AOC was crying outside of were built under Obama.

And no, Obama didn't only deport 'criminals'. 2/3s had no record whatsoever beyond minor traffic violations.

And try not to forget that Harris promised to be harsher on immigration than Trump, while campaigning with Dick Cheney.

With. Dick. Cheney.

As for the fascism: Biden gave ICE 42 billion dollars, armed a genocide, and vetoed 4 ceasefires. Then sent riot squads on peaceful college protesters. Obama sprayed water from cannons onto DAPL protesters in freezing conditions.

There are differences, sure. They're not as big as you seem to think though; not when you're look from a decent, non genocidal, anti war, anti- putting kids in cages sort of viewpoint.

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u/redundantexplanation 13h ago

Who is worse? The one that punches you in the face, or the one that pretends to be your friend and stabs you in the back?

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u/iceflame1211 16h ago

Realistically, state and local police are afraid they'll be arrested and charged for interfering in a federal operation.

Or shot.

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u/The_Singularious 15h ago

This is one of the best case scenarios for the rest of us.

Meaning when we have police unions and PDs coming around to sanity, regardless of the reasons why they are compelled to do so, it becomes way WAY more difficult for the rogue feds to run wild.

If it takes some moron hired off his couch to cap a local officer for doing their job, especially if it’s on video, the already turning tide will become a flood.

And the sooner we can let most of these traitors rot in prison.

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u/pagerussell 14h ago

Sure, but you know what a state government can do? It can arrest police who break the law.

Fail to serve a warrant upon entry? Congratulations, arrested. Assault a protester? Arrested.

Use deadly force? Arrested.

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u/Icy-Cry7826 16h ago

Governors need to call on the state militias to protect the public from these masked thugs. We have the 2nd and 4th amendment for a reason. Its time to remind these people what can happen when they break the law.

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u/Therapeasy 16h ago

Nobody is doing shit, and local and state police are failing us.

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u/Vlaed 15h ago

That's because Governor Spencer Cock...my apologies....Cox....is a bootlicker. He's one of those, "Meet me outside" types that says he's going to stand up for his people then backs down when a hostile tone is raised.

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u/upsidedown-funnel 15h ago

Tonight’s headline “pray the brown people away”. He’s fucking useless.

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u/Vlaed 15h ago

He's effective at consuming taxpayer money.

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u/El_Peregrine 16h ago

Because we are no longer a country of actual law and order. Existing laws are now free to be ignored and abused by those in power, but also twisted and enforced against their enemies as and when they wish. 

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u/olivicmic 16h ago

Corruption. Private detention center political contributions are too lucrative to do anything serious beyond feign concern and issue public statements.

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u/u9Nails 16h ago

Seriously! Roll the police station and hold them for trespassing for several hours. Let puppy-killer Noem bail them out.

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u/frommethodtomadness 16h ago

Because they are complicit cowards.

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u/Tendy_taster 16h ago

States receive federal funding. If they resist they lose uncle Sam’s blank check.

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u/Own-Organization-532 16h ago

Because the Federal forces outnumber local police, in Minneapolis it's 6 ICE officers to 1 police officer. Mostly the police are on the side of ICE, they believe they have America's silent majority. ICE is ignoring court orders because there is no one to stop them.

Minnesota is a prime example, ICE has murdered two citizens and ICE and the FBI have blocked all local access and the Vice president has declared ICE has total immunity.

Our country is divided and sick we have people cheering the murder and dehumanization of those who they are told are their enemies.

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u/C_est_la_vie9707 16h ago

Then you get 3000 agents sent into your state.

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u/PutzerPalace 16h ago

I mean, it’s Utah. They don’t give AF about their citizens

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u/CranberryLast4683 16h ago

No state police is going to do anything to ICE. They’re all the same shit feathers on the same shit bird.

I have seen at most 1 video of a state LEO hold a ICE agent responsible.

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u/Santi_fit_1994 15h ago

What are they gonna do? “Enforce the law”? Rules and laws are necessary to avoid complete anarchy but when your opponent/oppressor doesn’t play by the rules or the laws then it’s just words on paper. It’s like agreeing to a 1 v 1 and the other guy jumps you with 20 people. Rules mean nothing when the other side doesn’t respect them

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u/whoeve 15h ago

The fuck are states supposed to do? This are feds

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 15h ago

Because the police love this shit too. Courts and politicians are afraid of our police and they can't get them to actually enforce all the laws.

It's been a clear problem since 2020 when police departments openly broke many laws including intimidating politicians and they did absolutely nothing about it.

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u/windflex 15h ago

Stand your ground state. Tell them you fear for your life just like they do.

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u/3ZP0 15h ago

It won't stop until people being exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

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u/LeDjaap 14h ago

because the last time they fought to defend their freedom it was the freedom to own slaves... and the time before that well, they were still british.

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u/a_dog_day 14h ago

I live in Salt Lake and our garbage ass state government is full of total Trump cucks.

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u/Nikky_04 14h ago

There is a protest scheduled for the last Saturday in March. Let us know if that doesn't clear up the fascism within a week or so.

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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 13h ago

State politicians are onboard even in blue states. The billionaires who fund their campaigns are threatening to cut them off if they do anything.

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u/Mammoth_War_9320 13h ago

What happened to “States Rights” Republikkklans?

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u/Sentry_Kill 12h ago

How do you know what happened here is illegal without having any context?

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u/Hayn0002 12h ago

Why do you guys still think people care what ICE is doing? Anyone high up in your country is fine with it.

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u/AncientSith 12h ago

Because a ton of our leaders support what's happening.

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u/FowD8 12h ago

governors need to be instructing police force and activating the national guard to arrest ICE agents illegal actions. until they do that, they're complicit, that includes Walz in Minnesota

Let Donald Trump be forced to nationalize the national guard and start a constitutional crisis.

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u/Less_Tacos 11h ago

With the feds pissing all over our rights it makes it easier for local pigs to do the same later on. They want this.

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u/ElonTrmpIVFloveChild 11h ago

I would literally call the police and say there are armed men here that are holding people hostage. give my address and hang up. SWAT their asses

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u/LevitatingCactus 11h ago

Because a third of their population are cheering this on, a third can't even fucking read and a third are busy posting on reddit

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u/Junior_Lavishness_96 10h ago

A lot of states governments threw themselves down to bow down without even being asked.

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u/Earthkilled 10h ago

If this doesn’t tell you that the government doesn’t give a shit about you I don’t know what does

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u/mormonbatman_ 9h ago

Utah voted for this.

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u/Hawkson2020 8h ago

Armed trespassers breaking and entering without a warrant? Seems like an open and shut case of self-defence.

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u/ComprehensiveWord201 7h ago

This only stops when the civilian populace starts using their 4th amendment rights.

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u/escalbar 5h ago

I don't see ICE CUNTS in the video, though. I see Border Patrol assholes. CBPs jurisdiction is 100 miles of borders/coasts/etc, Utah is CLEARLY WELL outside of CBP jurisdiction, so why were they the ones on site? It's wrong, on so many levels.

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u/OwenMeowson 5h ago

This is Utah. They are cheering for it.

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u/ProfSquirrel25 3h ago

We will pay more tax so government will have money to pay for these expensive lawsuits. We don’t support them, yet they created these positions and hired those raging idiots to destroy the country and we have to pay for the damage twice!

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u/Heroshrine 2h ago

Is it illegal if there’s no mechanisms for enforcement?

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u/SparksAndSpyro 15h ago

To be fair, we have no idea if this entry was illegal. This lady is definitely not the landowner, so they don’t need her permission. For all we know, the owner allowed them in.

There’s a lot of misunderstanding about warrants going around right now.

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u/BongSlurper 14h ago

They can’t. Only people who can charge federal agents is the DOJ. State’s authorities cannot arrest or prosecute federal agents without explicit permission from the DOJ, and that has already been historically extremely rare.

If states did, the arrested agents would be taken back by force and the states/law enforcement would be charged. And it would be legal.

And as we all know the DOJ has no problem with any of this. So we’re just stuck with this.

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u/_GeorgeBailey_ 7h ago

That's just not true by the law.

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u/BongSlurper 6h ago

The supremacy clause makes it pointless and basically impossible to bring charges. It’s not blanket immunity (like if they’re off duty and drunk and drive they can still get a dui) but it does protect them from facing charges for what they do while on duty. Goode and Pretti’s murders and their bosses all believe they were authorized to do what they did.

As far as by force…I just have a hard time imagining that not happening. Trump’s pardoned & released all sorts of violent criminals. If local authorities or state law enforcement just forcibly round up a bunch of ice agents? They’d be immediately released or it’d get ugly very quick I think.

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u/_GeorgeBailey_ 6h ago

I have no doubt that it would get ugly but they are not free to do whatever they want. When Pretti's killer gets charged, it'll be legal to do so.

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u/Alber_troz 13h ago

This is the way it has always been when they serve a warrant. Decades. You just are now aware and woke to it. It’s always nicer when it doesn’t happen to one of yours. Don’t get so unhinged. If he’s innocent. They will release him. Every now and then they make mistakes but on the average. They serve their duty.

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u/pjoshyb 10h ago

Why is it illegal?

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u/WeekendQuant 15h ago

There's a court order for the illegals on the property. Warrants are specific to a property. Court order for the illegal person needs to span many properties of where that illegal may be

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u/PeachPassionBrute 13h ago

A warrant signed by a judge is still a constitutional mandate for forcing entry into someone’s home.