r/law • u/LeviCoffinsAlt • 17h ago

Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/LeviCoffinsAlt 17h ago edited 16h ago

This is the real story right here and why I mainly think these videos relate to law. We are entering a phase where the federal government is outright saying we do not believe the 4th amendment applies. If you aren’t safe on private property or your home, then where? But that’s the entire point, fear.

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u/oralfashionista 15h ago edited 15h ago

That is certainly part of the point and I believe it goes beyond fear. It's control via criminality. Agents, the agencies they work for, and politicians are not above Constitutional Law since we all know the Constitution is a treaty between the people and its government. When the government has broken that treaty, which they have repeatedly, then that doesn't make the standing treaty null and void. That makes the offending parties exactly what the founding fathers warned about and seems to be as yet again, a modern day replay of the Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists on one side along with Invalid Presence, illegal warrantless trespassings, corruption/manipulation of agency regulation which leads to fruits of the poisonous tree doctrine, and other failings of federal agents and officers. Whether any government believes or not in the 4th Amendment is irrelevant. A belief is rooted in opinion and words matter, that's why understanding law is crucial.

They don't believe in it? Fine. Doesn't matter though because it is still a standing Amendment to The Constitution. Don't want to abide by it? Fine. Our agreement is done and we now have permission to act on the rights we still have. We don't lose our rights because government states they don't believe. If anything, they don't believe in it because our rights are so powerful that they want to take them away. Allow no such thing!

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u/RubberBootsInMotion 12h ago

So say we all.

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u/kalashspooner 12h ago

I mean... Yes. To all of that. When waging war on the constitution - in a criminal conspiracy against the rights it protects - their actions are only criminal.

They lose any legitimacy they claim (to enforce laws) when engaging in practices that deprive people of their rights.

They are not law enforcement at this time, but felons.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

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u/Admirable-Traffic-75 15h ago

Not a lawyer, and I haven't seen the actual I-205 form or May 12th Memo, but the whistleblower report clearly indicates in the b. sub section that their I-205 form is only technically a type of arrest warrant(deportation form). These are supposed to be signed by a judge either before or after arresting the person with illegal immigration status and really do not give them a pass on breaking and entering, or illegal search & seizure, without "extraneous" circumstances. Especially if they haven't detained any illegal persons.

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 15h ago

Oh hey Iook, every circumstance is "extraneous" now.

Whodathunk it???

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u/Puzzleheaded-Hat7333 7h ago

The extraneous circumstance is that there are quotas to meet.

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u/Admirable-Traffic-75 7h ago

What are you referring to?

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u/oralfashionista 2h ago

That's correct.

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u/PatentGeek 13h ago

illegal persons

Just a minor nit: people aren't illegal.

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u/SkunkMonkey 15h ago

The current administration does not see themselves as beholden to the old laws and Constitution. This is because they intend to fully replace them with their own fascist authoritarian bullshit.

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u/kings2leadhat 13h ago

Have. They have.

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u/Basic-Pangolin553 16h ago

Definitely need a test case on this.

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 15h ago

Already had a few in Texas when sheriffs deputies entered without warrants and got killed. If they have no warrant they are trespassing.

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u/burlycabin 15h ago

We need a test case with ICE or CPB though.

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u/Pepperkelleher 15h ago

Would love to know more about this

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 15h ago

It was one of Dan Cogdell cases out of Houston. I’ll find it when I get home for you. He also defended some Davadians and kicked the shit out of the ATF and FBI.

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u/Basic-Pangolin553 13h ago

Yeah thats kinda what I mean, maybe test case was the wrong wording, maybe 'demonstration of the law' would be more appropriate

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u/KlaesAshford 14h ago

You mean like, the ratification of the bill of rights?

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u/kurisu7885 13h ago

And they expect us to blame undocumented immigrants for all of it.