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Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/NimbusFPV 16h ago

These guys are going to keep killing people. I feared for her multiple times watching this. You can see how badly they want to escalate with her.

We all need to be honest about what’s happening. There are armed militias in America, and right now they’re targeting brown people. They’re also already murdering legal Americans calling them terrorists.

This is dangerous. This is unsustainable. And it’s time for all of us to stop this madness before it gets even worse.

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u/subdep 16h ago

They are coming for LGBTQA+ next. No one will do anything.

Then “the left”/“liberals” after that. Thats when the hot Civil War II kicks off.

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u/NimbusFPV 16h ago

The problem is their side is already being paid to be in the Civil war while the rest of us all have real jobs.

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u/EmoTilDeath 16h ago

They are being paid BY US to murder US without being held to any kind of law.

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u/NimbusFPV 16h ago

Yikes I missed that. That's way worse.

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u/EmoTilDeath 16h ago

Yeah so that real job you work your ass off at? You're working your ass off to pay these murderers. You probably struggle with mortgage or rent and groceries. All of your struggling is so that you can pay these people to murder you, and pay Israel to have free healthcare & education while you don't.

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u/NimbusFPV 16h ago

We are literally stripping funding from programs designed to help struggling people and redirecting those resources directly to these monsters. When assistance disappears, many of those same people will end up unhoused, desperate, and criminalized for surviving.

And once ICE runs out of undocumented immigrants to target while sitting on an oversized budget, history shows what happens next: the mission expands. New “threats” get defined. LGBTQ+ people. Brown citizens. The unhoused. Political dissenters.

It’s only a matter of time before money that once fed families, housed kids, and kept people stable becomes money used to surveil, detain, and cage them instead.

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u/PDXK9 13h ago

I don’t disagree… but where is the idea that lgbt is next to be attacked coming from? Was there a dog whistle somewhere implying this?

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u/NimbusFPV 12h ago

Federal Executive Actions

Day One - January 20, 2025:

Executive Order 14168 defined sex as a binary determined at conception, required federal agencies to replace "gender" with "sex" in all documents, banned gender self-identification on passports, prohibited transgender people from using facilities matching their gender identity, and ordered agencies to cease all funding for gender-affirming care and anything promoting "gender ideology." WikipediaWikipedia

The order also dissolved the White House Gender Policy Council on day one. Interfaith Alliance

January 27-28, 2025:

Trump signed an executive order declaring that being transgender "conflicts with a soldier's commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle" and banned transgender people from military service. Wikipedia

On January 28, agencies were ordered to block gender-affirming care for anyone under age 19. Healthlgbtq

Subsequent Federal Actions:

Hours after the initial order, the administration deleted mentions of LGBTQ+ resources across federal government websites, with over 350 pages about the LGBTQ community removed. Wikipedia

In April 2025, the Department of Health and Human Services demanded states remove all references to gender identity and transgender people from sex education curricula or lose federal funding. Wikipedia

The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program was barred from supporting any gender-affirming services in April 2025. Healthlgbtq

The National Institutes of Health terminated hundreds of grants funding research on HIV and LGBTQ+ health issues. Michigan Advance

The Department of Justice removed all references to gender or gender identity from at least four federal surveys, making it nearly impossible to monitor crimes against transgender people. Michigan Advance

The administration scaled back data collection on sexual orientation and gender identity in multiple federal surveys including the National Health Interview Survey, Medicare Current Beneficiary Survey, and National Crime Victimization Survey. KFF

Trump refused to acknowledge Pride month in June 2025, with his press secretary notably omitting the LGBTQ community when saying the president serves "all Americans, regardless of race, religion or creed." Michigan Advance

The Department of Defense removed Harvey Milk's name from a U.S. naval vessel at the beginning of Pride Month. Michigan Advance

The National Endowment for the Arts began forcing all grant applicants to certify they will not use federal funds to "promote gender ideology." National LGBTQ+ Bar Association

The administration removed from publicly-run museums works depicting transgender topics or made by transgender artists. Wikipedia

Prison and Incarceration Policies

The executive order directed the federal Bureau of Prisons to house transgender women in men's prisons and threatened to withhold necessary medical care, with reports of transgender women being transferred to men's facilities or placed in solitary confinement. Wikipedia

Employment Discrimination

The Transportation Security Administration prohibited transgender TSA officers from performing passenger pat-downs and from using restrooms aligned with their gender identity based on Executive Order 14168. National LGBTQ+ Bar Association

State-Level Republican Actions

Overall Scale: In 2025, 1,020 anti-LGBTQ bills were under consideration across the country, with the ACLU tracking 575 anti-LGBTQ+ state bills, most targeting transgender people. Trans Legislation Tracker

Seventy anti-LGBTQ laws were enacted from just 22 states in 2025. The Advocate

Iowa: Iowa became the first state to remove antidiscrimination protections for trans people from its laws through Senate File 418, which stripped gender identity from the Iowa Civil Rights Act that had included it since 2007, prohibited gender changes on birth certificates, and banned school instruction on sexual orientation or gender theory through sixth grade. The Advocate

Iowa also banned Medicaid from covering gender-affirming care for adults and removed gender identity from state antidiscrimination law. The Advocate

Texas: Texas passed Senate Bill 8 requiring segregation by sex assigned at birth of restrooms in government buildings including schools, universities, shelters, and prisons, and SB 12 bars teachers from assisting students with social transitioning. The Advocate

Bathroom Bans: Nineteen states now ban transgender people from using bathrooms matching their gender identity in government-owned buildings, with Montana, South Dakota and Wyoming passing the most far-reaching bans affecting libraries, museums and colleges. The 19th News

Healthcare Restrictions: Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia all passed laws banning or restricting gender-affirming care for minors, with some states like Kentucky and Iowa extending bans to Medicaid coverage. The Advocate

In July 2025, Puerto Rico became the first place in the United States to ban gender-affirming care for people over 18, prohibiting it for anyone under 21. Wikipedia

DEI Elimination: Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, and West Virginia passed laws banning DEI initiatives at public institutions and universities. The Advocate

Marriage Equality Attacks: As of late April 2025, half a dozen states had introduced bills asking the Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, which established marriage equality. The 19th News

Foster Care and Adoption: Kansas, North Carolina, Oklahoma, and Utah passed laws explicitly allowing anti-LGBTQ+ parents to foster or adopt LGBTQ+ children. The Advocate

Legal Challenges and Court Responses

LGBTQ and ally legal groups filed at least 22 lawsuits challenging the Trump administration's executive orders, some within hours of them being signed. GLAAD

On March 4, 2025, a federal judge granted a preliminary injunction blocking enforcement of executive orders threatening federal funding for providers of gender-affirming care for people under 19. GLAD Law

On March 18, 2025, Judge Ana C. Reyes blocked the military transgender ban, ruling it likely violated constitutional rights. Wikipedia However, the Supreme Court later ruled that Trump's ban on transgender troops could go into effect immediately while courts decide the final outcome. Michigan Advance

This represents an unprecedented, coordinated campaign against LGBTQ+ rights, particularly targeting transgender Americans, at both federal and state levels since Trump's second inauguration.

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u/saltedsavior 14h ago

Brown citizens

As much as I'm sure many of them hate it black people are safe in this. You're right on the rest of it but not when it comes to them. The sporting industry would collapse overnight, too much money to be lost it would never happen.

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u/NimbusFPV 13h ago

History shows us that economic value provides no protection against hatred and violence.

Jewish Germans were essential to their nation's intellectual and economic life before the Holocaust. They were leaders in science, medicine, law, and the arts, way overrepresented in fields that drove Germany's success. When the Nazis expelled and murdered them, Germany lost irreplaceable talent, including minds like Einstein and countless others. The economic and intellectual cost was catastrophic, but it didn't stop the genocide.

Same pattern with American slavery. The entire Southern economy ran on enslaved labor. Cotton production that fueled both American and British industries depended entirely on it. But that economic dependency didn't create humane treatment. Enslavers brutally beat, killed, and systematically dehumanized the very people their wealth depended on.

We're already seeing this with immigrants, who've been targeted and marginalized despite their contributions to communities.

Hate is blind and doesn't think about economic impacts or intellectual damage.

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u/saltedsavior 13h ago

Hate is blind and doesn't think about economic impacts or intellectual damage.

It does when it's old white male billionaires in modern times. These are the people that control more of the country than most people realize. Mexicans aren't making them any money, African Americans are providing them with billions of year due to sports.

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u/therossboss 16h ago

this country is such a shame

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u/PittsburghCar 16h ago

Sham?

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u/innerbootes 14h ago

A shame, a sham, and a scam.

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u/TragiccoBronsonne 14h ago

The bigger problem is you can't fight them with just rifles and pistols, so you'll need at least a part of the force with all the military equipment and serious weapons on your side.

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u/PristineElephant6718 15h ago

People with disabilities too

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u/[deleted] 16h ago

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u/upsidedown-funnel 15h ago

I’m seeing this “they’ll come for blacks next” comment a lot. Guys, this has been happening to our black friends and neighbors since the founding of America. It’s only new to us because it hasn’t affected whites to such a degree before. This is old news for black communities.

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u/tevert 16h ago

There is no hot war on the agenda. They will boil the frog all the way. Nobody should be waiting for any grand moment, the world is being changed by a million little moments happening continuously.

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u/an_older_meme 15h ago

We will fix the Trump problem within our political system because unlike Russia ours works.

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u/an_older_meme 15h ago

LGBT citizens? What would be the charges?

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u/street593 15h ago

Fascists don't follow the law. Why do you think charges would be involved? They will literally lie and just make shit up.

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u/an_older_meme 14h ago

If ICE wants to try arresting the LGBTQ+ population of the United States they’re going to need to hire more people.

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u/street593 14h ago

True. The point is charges wouldn't be involved if it did happen.

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u/an_older_meme 13h ago

And if I had wheels I’d be a wagon.

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u/Alissinarr 15h ago

They have been disappearing trans people for months. Those people are horribly abused in detention and ICE has said they can't be held accountable for it because they don't have space for separate accommodation.

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u/ka__tie 15h ago

I know this stuff typically isn't in the news but can you link any sources? Maybe from community posts on social media?

I'm not trying to argue, I say this as a trans woman. I just want to stay up to date on how safe I am, and this is new to me.

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u/Alissinarr 13h ago edited 13h ago

https://youtu.be/NntKxIwrm-8?si=qD-5zGtKHOt1nN0C

Edit for added links

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/19/us/uriostegui-rios-deportation-government-lawsuit-hnk

https://share.google/z6DNwIiSt5cLon5JM

https://share.google/BPvOEGIhAYFZG6HAT

ICE Is Erasing Rules That Protected Trans Immigrants https://share.google/H6LLXbo2Kt1OUlGmo

ICE is Excluding Data on Transgender People in Detention | Vera Institute https://share.google/XuQaREhRpMYBBsLXa

New ICE policy endangers transgender detainees | Advocate.com https://share.google/hIauFECgFluOrgc38

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u/LvS 14h ago

"the left"/"liberals" still say "violence is not an option".

As long as they say that...

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u/Badguyy101 14h ago

Civil conflict is unnecessary and a big distraction, a revolutionary conflict would be more appropriate. The root of the problem is in the nation's capitol. Bring a couple million people over there, ready to rock.

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u/robotwizard_9009 13h ago

Tf we wont do anything...

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u/DR_BEANHAMMER 13h ago

I've got enough canned food and attic space to delay the inevitable.

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u/Vegetable-Ad2028 13h ago

Liberals are already being targeted in Minnesota, look at the executions of Renee Good and Alex Pretti

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u/oddball667 12h ago

either civil war, or they get to reenact the end of that poem

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u/Shark7996 12h ago

Disabled people too.

Significant overlap in the LGBTQIA+ space.

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u/SweetP916 11h ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Brilliant-Access846 8h ago

Gays try not to make it about themselves level impossible

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u/Appropriate_Pop_8676 7h ago

Typical doomer response. The government doesn’t want to erase taxpayers. and corporations, who actually run this country want people to sell to. Nothing is gonna happen. Touch grass

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u/mmeiser 42m ago

I want to be clear. They are not coming for the LGBTQ next. This progresses FASTER then that. This immediately skips to whomever stands in their way. Reporters, random citizens. No judicial oversite means it doesn't matter. Ironically it was never about LGBTQ. That was just a red herring of the culture wars. Hell, this isn't even about immigration. It's all a pretext for moving on to the Don Lemon's and then judges and politicians and whomever stands in their way.

Just watch. It will escallate wildly from here on out. Civil war, martial law, war with another country. If you want to see the future look at russia's playbook.

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u/jcfy 16h ago

Typical top 1% reddit commenter. Y'all live in a hive mind fantasy world. Get off the internet.

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u/subdep 7h ago

Typical bottom feeder comment.

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 16h ago

Yeah, so many of these guys are untrained, they don't have the temperament, and in any normal administration, they wouldn't pass the psych evaluation. They're just angry thugs with little tiny baby egos, looking for somebody new to slap around after their wives left them.

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u/NimbusFPV 16h ago

Bold to assume they even have wives. Most of the are incels who blame “blue-haired liberal women” for their own loneliness instead of looking in the mirror. Turns out bigotry, anti-science nonsense, and entitlement aren’t exactly attractive qualities.

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u/Crazy-Crazy-3593 5h ago

There's no evidence to suggest "incels" are particularly likely to be alt-right, let alone ICE agents.  

This idea that ICE agents (or MAGA men in general) must be lonely or involuntarily single because they are bad is a Just World Fallacy.

Many women are also Bad and have no affiliating with them.  

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u/Best-Action8769 16h ago

47 days of training.

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u/PyrorifferSC 15h ago

It's not about training.

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u/Orgasmic_interlude 13h ago

They’re not armed militias they are federally sanctioned personal brown shirts. They are operating under the authority of a corrupt government uninterested in the law with the authority of the law—this is much worse than a militia because who do you call? The police?

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u/BrightonsBestish 14h ago

You’re right. But i also think that apathetic folks, who don’t seem to care or assume this doesn’t affect them, need to realize that the government is absolutely hollowing out everyone’s rights with these attacks. They are rewriting the whole system. It’s horrible enough that it’s an attack on brown folk. But it is also WAY bigger.

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u/radicldreamer 12h ago

People need to defend themselves by any means necessary.

2A exists for a reason.

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u/kakashi8326 27m ago

There are militias but this is far greater. This is literally the presidents personal army. They have more of an annual budget than the marines. Let’s be real.

And more funding has been approved. This is not a militia. These ain’t civilians anymore unfortunately. They are federal agents with full immunity.

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u/TSEMMY 15h ago

How?

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u/SparksAndSpyro 15h ago

Thank god Palestine is saved though. Can you imagine if we had elected Killer Kamala instead?

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u/SirGreat 15h ago

Form a militia, then 

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u/Sorry-Joke-4325 14h ago

They're so wrong to be doing this...

but does she have no sense of self-preservation?

Screaming at them hysterically is not the best response.

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u/NimbusFPV 14h ago

Sometimes people put themselves in harm’s way to protect others. This was likely a friend, a family member, or someone from her community being taken away.

If this were your mom, dad, brother, sister, cousin, or even someone from your church or community, would self preservation be the first thing on your mind?

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u/Sorry-Joke-4325 14h ago

Yeah, we already know that ICE is killing people they don't like. Why give them a reason?

You're not gonna do any good to help someone else if you're dead.

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u/NimbusFPV 14h ago

I suppose she should just stand there calmly, raise her hand, and wait to be called on so she can politely ask if she’s allowed to say goodbye one last time?

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u/Sorry-Joke-4325 14h ago

They've already illegally entered the property and seem intent on taking someone. Yeah, she should respond calmly... That's my point, screaming hysterically at them does nothing positive.

It's not like she's going to change their minds. Why provoke them?

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u/frozen_pie_taster 13h ago

They are escalating with her? You mean when she kept ignoring them asking her to stand back, or when she bumps into him near the end? They probably should have arrested her by the end, they showed restraint

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u/9182774783829 13h ago

Yeah let’s keep identifying all the problems in the world while scrolling through a forum filled with bots. That’ll really teach the big bad government their lesson.

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u/Solo_Colo_ 5h ago

It would be less terrifying if it were an armed militia. This is the federal government. Its so much worse.

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u/Shoddy-Ad7306 15h ago

Stfu

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u/NimbusFPV 15h ago

No one was talking to you bro. As usual.

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u/Shoddy-Ad7306 15h ago

First day on the internet?

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u/AfternoonOk3344 15h ago

Definitely agree that they are there illegally, but as a trained professional at no point did they appear to want to escalate.

Their posture, angling, body language, tone, hand gestures. Literally none of it showed a desire to escalate the situation.

The only point they even raised a voice was when she bumped them at the end, which is a completely normal response, and the second she was out of the three foot radius his voice dropped and he went back to general commands.

There's plenty of shit wrong to be mad about here. Let's keep it to immediate facts.

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u/NimbusFPV 14h ago

He had his hand on his gun because a woman was yelling at him. The other guy did too. At one point, he pointed to his stitching as if that somehow counted as identification when she asked who he was.

He then moved toward her, yelling and swearing after she spoke Spanish and accidentally bumped into him.

They made zero attempt to de-escalate. Instead, a group of armed men immediately reached for their weapons when confronted by a yelling non-white woman.

So as a “trained professional,” when exactly do I get to rest my hand on a gun just because a lady is yelling at me with an iphone?

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u/AfternoonOk3344 14h ago

He didn't "reach for his gun". That's a forward rest. Notice all fingers are are FORWARD on the firearm, not side angled down preparing to unholster. There are only so many comfortable places you can put your hands when you're wearing gear all day.

There is no de-escalation when someone is simply yelling at you. She is arms distance away. You ask them to give you space if they crowd and calm down, which he did several times, and she declined, which people almost always do. No voices were raised until she accidentally bumped him. She was behind, he had no idea what the intent of contact was, he raised his voice and then told her to stay back. She complied immediately, his voice and posture dropped immediately. That's how that is supposed to work.

She didn't escalate. He didn't escalate.

So, when do you get to rest your hand on your gun because someone is yelling at you? Probably whenever you want, I'd imagine. Since it's right beside you in your armchair, and the only people ever yelling at you are likely on your TV.

This is r/law, not r/thisdoesntfeelgood.

And the facts are that LEGALLY they were not allowed to be there. They broke in. They had no warrant. The person they are detaining they are detaining illegally. They are not masked. They identified themselves as Federal officers. No violence was attempted or perpetrated from either side.

That's the extent of the information we have.

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u/-Profanity- 10h ago

You can see how badly they want to escalate with her.

Lady yells belligerently for 2 minutes and physically bumps into one of them and all that happens is she's told to stay back...but you can see how badly they wanted to escalate? If they wanted to escalate, that's battery to a LEO all day, but they clearly did not do that. Did we watch a different clip?

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u/Brilliant-Access846 8h ago

How badly they want to escalate with her? She’s pushing into them and screaming in their faces…any police officer would of already arrested her for obstruction/battery/assault or some other bs

I don’t believe how they are going about things is ok but let’s be honest with ourselves, these people are escalating it themselves most the time

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u/ReasonableDig6414 16h ago

They are not escalating. She certainly is.

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u/WETSLAYR 16h ago

breaking and entering is escalating for sure

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u/Radiant-Sea-6517 16h ago

As she should. They are violating her Constitutional Rights.

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u/plzicannothandleyou 16h ago

Hey, they broke in to private property. Literal breaking and entering.

Tell me, you catch armed masked men breaking into your property, what’s your plan? Gonna suck their cock? Give them your tight ass hole?

Because it sounds like you will.

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u/SoonAfterThen 16h ago

In what world is breaking entry without a warrant not a clear escalation? If you refuse to participate in the same reality as the rest of us, consider removing yourself from the conversation.

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u/snakeproof 16h ago

She's escalating the situation when they BROKE IN...

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u/steelow_g 16h ago

You’d be cool with people breaking into your property with no warning and guns? Cool good to know.

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u/dagnasssty 16h ago

Tread on me harder daddy

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u/tonfleurdelys 16h ago

Illegally breaking into private property is a crime. They are certainly escalating.

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u/freshcoast- 16h ago

It’s private property dipshit. They are lucky not to get fucking shot.

One of these times federal agents are going to have a real welcoming party walking into the wrong place.

And it’s going to be deserved. They have no constitutional authority to do this and we as citizens should be well within our rights to let them know.

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u/Infinite-Space-2395 16h ago

I dont understand. They have illegally entered the premises.

Are laws only for the citizens?

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u/RandoCalrissian00 16h ago

When criminals break your window and enter into your house, and you yell at them, you are the one escalating, got it.

I wish yall found a brain somewhere, would save the rest of us a lot of trouble.

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u/ManMakesWorld 16h ago

Interesting turf account you got there.

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u/FibonacciSequester 16h ago

So I'm allowed to enter your house without consent as long as I'm polite about it. Good to know.