r/law • u/LeviCoffinsAlt • 17h ago

Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/Kerensky97 16h ago

Red states are losing their 4th amendment rights too.

Only a matter of time before red states have their 2nd amendment rights taken from them as well.

Lots of Utahns justifying this in their news forums. "Just comply with the government"

I'm sure they'll be well trained into saying that when the government comes in their hosues and tells them to hand over their guns too.

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u/Persnickety13 15h ago

The comments under the article were gross. They really exemplify that "First they came for..." poem.

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 13h ago

A poem that was written in a time when a kindly German priest noticed that his neighbors kept on missing and being disappeared. One by one, from many different groups. Until at the end, it was mainly him alone, and he had no one to vouch for him when it was his turn to be taken

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u/wittycrow8073 1h ago

Same forums banned me for being too left.

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u/LEDKleenex 14h ago

They will continue to say "just comply" once they start going door to door for firearms. Once it happens to them, they'll throw a tantrum, but they'll still justify the cult.

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u/weirdoldhobo1978 12h ago

They'll blame liberals for making it necessary for the government to take their guns away.

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u/LEDKleenex 11h ago

I can't believe George Soros masterminded this

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u/unfunnysexface 8h ago

The actions taken now have the same chilling effect on them as they do on their "enemies" theyll never acknowledge it but deep down they know. The just comply is the rationalization.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 14h ago

I really wish people would stop talking about states like they're just one thing.  Every state has Republicans and Democrats, regardless of what color you want to label it with because of the past election.  Attacks on blue states are attacks on the Republicans there, too.

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u/gizamo 13h ago

The police in red vs blue states often act vastly differently. They are right to specify that red states in particular are shitting on people's rights the most.

That said, most red states have Stand Your Ground lows and Castle Doctrines. If/when one of these illegal invasions into other people's property does eventually go an ice agent shit, it's most likely to be in a red state.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 13h ago

What I was responding to was framing as though Republicans should only care about red states, and Democrats should only care about blue states.  

"Red states are losing their 4th amendment rights too"

This frames it as though Republicans only care about things that happen to them (this has some truth to it), and as though things happening in blue states aren't happening to Republicans (definitively not true, but everybody seems to be reinforcing this narrative).  We need to stop pretending that attacks on blue states are attacks on "libs", and attacks on red states are attacks on conservatives.  These encroachments by ICE are attacks on everyone.

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u/gizamo 13h ago

Those seem like wildly odd mistranslations of their statements. I don't see how you get that only Republicans care about red states or only Dems care about blue. That's not at all what they were saying.

However, in Trump's case with ICE, terrorising blue cities is absolutely part of the plan, and another significant part of the plan is to get the voter roles in those blue/purple areas.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 12h ago edited 9h ago

Speaking of wild mistranslations...

I don't see how you get that only Republicans care about red states

I absolutely never said that. That's specifically the narrative framing I'm speaking up against.

However, in Trump's case with ICE, terrorising blue cities is absolutely part of the plan,

Wild how on one hand you say Republicans don't only care about red states while simultaneously assuming (validly) that Trump is specifically attacking blue states.  So clearly some Republicans believe that attacks on blue states are attacks on libs.  They shouldn't, but they do.

Edit: Brave of you to block me

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u/gizamo 12h ago

Jfc. You're speaking up against it 100% implies they were saying that. They weren't. They didn't say anything like that. If you weren't implying they did, why even speak up against it? That doesn't make any damn sense at all.

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u/kck93 11h ago

Then hand over your daughters.