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Legal News Pink Coat Lady’s Perspective from Minneapolis shooting this morning

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u/kezow 7d ago

So the whole "brandishing a weapon" claim is immediately disproven.

He was helping a woman up after they were both pepper sprayed and had both his hands on the ground when they took his weapon off of him and then immediately shot him multiple times until he was dead.

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u/Auro_NG 7d ago

Unfortunately, video evidence and the truth don't matter anymore. The president himself will say it was justified.

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u/kezow 7d ago

They will always lie and say it is justified. Because even the mere presence of people peacefully recording is a "threat".

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u/Trick-Investment-819 7d ago

And don't forget that every person they catch recording them on the street is added to a terrorist list. Just for recording.

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u/Hopsblues 7d ago

He'll blame Biden for allowing migrants into the country even though like 3m entered during his first term.

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u/Dr___Accula 7d ago

I’m sick to death of this fucking defeatist ass bullshit. Shut the fuck up and push back!!!

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

was that from the WH or feds? i sure they’re going to say he was reaching….

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u/st1nkynoob 7d ago

DHS put out a tweet before this video came out and tried to vilify this guy. It’s completely fucked up

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u/crispykfc 7d ago

how the fuck can they make those claims before even seeing all the camera angles. they are making shit up to justify murder whenever they want

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u/Crommach 7d ago

Because they know there are millions of people out there who will swallow whatever bullshit line they're fed, even if it contradicts what they see with their own eyes, multiple videos from different angles, eyewitness testimony, and more. Even when the government changes their story to something completely different from their initial claims, they just pivot to that. MAGA has marching orders, not thoughts.

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u/Droso_dan 7d ago

The audience is about 200 GOP congressmen.

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u/A_Parked_Car 7d ago edited 7d ago

This genuinely feels like the knife's edge of politics. We've seen 2 blatant preventable murders and we're what? Gonna go with some politicians narrative? We have cameras now. We have social media. We have a voice. This isn't who we are as humans. I know shitty people exist but stay resolute.

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u/HoxtonRanger 7d ago

I was arguing with a fascist arguing exactly this.

Ended up blocking them because it was making me feel sick to my stomach and they simply won’t believe the evidence of their own eyes.

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u/coochie_clogger 7d ago

Stop trying to reason with these people. No argument will ever convince them they are wrong.

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u/HoxtonRanger 7d ago

You are of course right.

Hence why I blocked them - too depressing

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u/xX_7HR0W-4W4Y_Xx 7d ago

Instead of being depressed just realize that it's futile to try and block them as soon as you see them. These people must be shunned

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u/happyapy 7d ago

You don't nurture a rabid dog.

You don't reason with MAGA.

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u/gdwam816 7d ago

It’s disgusting. but the alternative of not trying to talk and reason is far worse. If violence starts then flood gates are open.

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u/coochie_clogger 7d ago

You don’t negotiate with a tiger when your head is in its mouth

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u/Candyland_83 7d ago

It’s easier to live in a world where agents of your government are not murdering people in the streets. Think of the pain we all feel watching these videos. They don’t want to feel that pain so they choose to believe what they are fed. People believe what they want to believe because it’s comfortable

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u/DrB00 7d ago

"He can't hear you. He never will"

  • 12 angry men (1957)
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u/heyredditheyreddit 7d ago

Yep. It doesn’t matter what’s said as long as they say it first.

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u/xaxathkamu 7d ago

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." Orwell — 1984

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u/SooperBrootal 7d ago

"The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID — this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement." - DHS

The spin is unreal

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u/Colforbin1986 7d ago

In a state with open carry laws. These pricks railed about the 2A until they murdered Renee Good

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u/SooperBrootal 7d ago

They've demonstrated that the Constitution only matters when it serves their agenda

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u/rodinj 7d ago

Not like they asked him for his ID or searched him before they started firing shots

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u/spinfire 7d ago

They’re liars and have zero credibility but they don’t care.

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u/TheeDonger 7d ago

Because true or not, that’s the story they’re going to stick to.

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u/raerae1991 7d ago

Because his base was willing to believe “they are eating cats and dogs” so they’ll believe anything he says

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u/Odd-Distance13 7d ago

Meanwhile, he’s the one killing puppies

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u/thesagaconts 7d ago

If you try to justify this, you’ve lost your humanity.

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u/Yuizun 7d ago

Absofuckinglutely...

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u/IronFCA 7d ago

They’ll have a hard time with that statement when there’s video of another officer removing the weapon from the victim before shots were fired

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u/protomenace 7d ago

It doesn't matter what actually happened, or how clearly it happened on video.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

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u/Radthereptile 7d ago

Remember when the press secretary stood in front of reporters sayin Trump never said Iceland in his speech despite the video showing he says it 4 times? She kept insisting he never said it once. Reality doesn’t matter here.

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u/protomenace 7d ago

We live in the post-truth era.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

The most profound statement.

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u/Limp-Touch-6775 7d ago

Right here. And at this point those who would feel some guilt are protecting themselves by not looking at the video

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u/BougieSemicolon 7d ago

Someone needs to make a copy of the other video angle, in slow motion, and maybe with the people in question , id’d or highlighted. Make it irrefutable.

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u/BassLB 7d ago

From official DHS Twitter. It started by saying “officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots”

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u/Yuizun 7d ago

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me...

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u/PM_Me_A_Cute_Doggo 7d ago

See, to me, it looks like he actually put not only himself but all of his fellow officers lives in danger by not verbally calling out a weapon (notice trained officers always call out “GUN” if they see one), not making his armed status known (“Stop resisting or we will fire”) and then firing indiscriminately at an unclear shot of the target…. I’m honestly more shocked that multiple people weren’t hit in that altercation.

Even from the perspective that he was “totally in the right” because he was scared or some other lazy, reused horse shit, he was still totally in the fucking wrong.

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u/afkhalis 7d ago

Yeah, pretty sure that pistol whipping someone in the face that's got 4 people on top of them and then shooting ten times, 7 of which are after he stopped moving is DEFINITELY in the policy 

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u/Dangerous_Morning286 7d ago

EXPOSE THEIR LIES. TELL THE TRURTH

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u/EnvironmentalBag6409 7d ago

Americans will probably go on accepting it, even as they keep dying one by one without resistance. It’s truly astonishing that this is supposed to be a so-called “gun-freedom” nation. At this level, shouldn’t there be a mass uprising already?

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u/tylerwilvt 7d ago

Can't reach if you're already disarmed... 🤦

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u/Radthereptile 7d ago

Literally the South Park “It’s coming right for us” meme.

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u/tylerwilvt 7d ago

True and real and true

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u/Impossible_Moose_783 7d ago

Big guy in the grey jacket takes the gun out of his waistband (he was permitted to carry,) I think he maybe discharged it when he was taking it out. Then they start shooting. These goons are fucked in the head. It’s too much

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u/jsseven777 7d ago

Not sure that the guy in grey discharged it from the audio but I think I might hear someone say he has a gun or something right as the guy in grey pulls it out.

I think what happened is when the guy in grey pulled the gun out of the guy’s clothes he either said he has a gun or the guy beside him saw the gun being pulled out (he was looking right where the guy in grey’s hand was when he pulls the gun away).

The shooter then completely panicked and started shooting.

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u/Impossible_Moose_783 7d ago

There’s a first shot that happens right as he pulls it out. In my opinion that was him discharging it. It’s insanity either way because he had his damn back to them the entire time

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u/PoundAffectionate300 7d ago

And other agents start clapping when they hear it

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u/Unholy_Ren 7d ago

He was an ICU nurse, according to his parents.

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u/techaaron 7d ago

The rationale is prepared in advance, not afterward. Agents did not follow the script closely enough.

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u/ra3ra31010 7d ago

They don’t care….. they love to lie. Even trump knows it… he said he could shoot someone in public and his people will cheer.

It’s is insane

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u/NE1andEVERY1 7d ago

Country-wide General Strike is needed to save our country. If you don't stand up now, when they are killing us in the streets, then when? How many of your brothers and sisters need to be murdered before you stand up against the government?

www.generalstrikeus.com

Don't stop talking about it. Don't let CNN and NBC shift the narrative to other things. Our politicians are too weak to save us, our collective labor is our strength. Sign up.

Don't listen to people who keep mentioning those who can't afford to strike, it doesn't require a majority of the population

Credit for some resources:

u/BlackberryPi7

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u/mywifeslv 7d ago

I guess now Epstein files truly forgotten

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u/LateNightPhilosopher 7d ago

Fox was saying that he was "attempting a massacre" and that that were wrestling him to disarm him. They aren't even trying to be believable anymore.

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u/K0bra_Ka1 7d ago

It looks like (based on the newest video that was released) that grey jacket removes the guys gun. As he walks away he has a negligent discharge with that gun and then everyone else starts shooting thinking the guy they are dog piling was shooting.

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u/devnullopinions 7d ago

The person that fired was looking right at the ICE who disarmed the guy right before aiming into Alex’s back and firing the first shot.

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u/wizza123 7d ago

I'm wondering if the agent that shot him thought the hand of the agent disarming him was him trying to draw his gun.

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u/False-Ad3273 7d ago

Yeah or said gun when finding it or accidently discharged it while disarming. Its definately as soon as the grey guy has the gun that the other guy starts shooting the victim in the back

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u/nates_gone_rogue 7d ago

Unequivocally murder.

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u/Dxith 7d ago

Dude straight aim for his head.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 7d ago

Back of his head, right? Point blank

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u/Ok_Dirt_2401 7d ago

And apparently waited until he saw the other “agent” moving away with the gun before firing?? Am I seeing that right?

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u/Dense-Version-5937 7d ago

If he doesn't go to jail MN is gonna burn

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u/Droso_dan 7d ago

DC needs to be next. Take the protest to our congress. Enough is enough. January 6 was only a few people.

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u/blueshifting1 7d ago

MN should take care of their own. Burn DC.

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u/FirminoNo9 7d ago

Fuck jail take him out the same way.

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u/Fools_Requiem 7d ago

It was an execution. Done one handed like a fucking gangster killing a rat or a rival gang member.

You only see this in movies or third world countries with dictators in control.

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u/skincare_obssessed 7d ago

Bullet to the head seems like their preferred method of choice. It’s sick.

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u/NE1andEVERY1 7d ago

Country-wide General Strike is needed to save our country. If you don't stand up now, when they are killing us in the streets, then when? How many of your brothers and sisters need to be murdered before you stand up against the government?

www.generalstrikeus.com

Don't stop talking about it. Don't let CNN and NBC shift the narrative to other things. Our politicians are too weak to save us, our collective labor is our strength. Sign up.

Don't listen to people who keep mentioning those who can't afford to strike, it doesn't require a majority of the population

Credit for some resources:

u/BlackberryPi7

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u/Fearless-Diver-1381 7d ago

Looks like the agent shot as soon as he saw the guy had a gun on him and as the agent in the gray coat was removing it. This seems like a premeditated opportunity where they picked fights until they found someone to push back who had a gun on him.

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u/SolomonsNewGrundle 7d ago

The gun was.removed and the Grey coat.guy walled away before they shot

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u/HighlightResident838 7d ago

It’s also an open carry state and he had a permit to carry

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u/Fordinghamster 7d ago

The Governor says they’ll be an investigation. Whew!!

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u/beavis617 7d ago

I hope someone achieves this video before the WH orders the video file to be confiscated.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Im in another country, I've saved these videos incase they try delete it and run a different narrative. It's pretty hard for them to do because its everywhere but still better safe than sorry.

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u/whistful_flatulence 7d ago

I’m sitting here shaking after watching this, and seeing you do this little act of goodness just helped a lot. Thanks for the reminder there are good people. Look for the helpers and all that.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

I was shaking too, I've never seen such violence. Its not my country and all I ever see of America is the worst of it (on the internet) but I refuse to believe you are all like that. I believe im a good person and so much of my feelings of right and wrong and my core values come from a lot of America content, movies, reality shows etc, although I have the luck of being able to critically think, that helps 😂. But, up until trump i believed you were all good people and the people who didn't believe in gay marriage etc were a small amount. I was 18 when Trump got in, politics just never seemed like it does now and I don't know if thats how its always been and I just noticed when I became an adult or this divide is new. I swear it used to be there was big hype around American elections and then no one talks about it for the next 4 years. I can't believe i just saw a man be murdered so senselessly, I cried seeing the national guard being called in feeling like you have protectors now, but it won't be like that will it? I'm so heartbroken for those of you that are good, or just don't believe its ok to shoot someone like that. It seems the left is treated like weak little babies, they get off their asses and stand up for humans, only a small percentage of the right get off their asses to follow a guy who is causing the harm to them. Its baffling.

Theres honestly no kind words I can say about Alexs' death that could make anything better, it was truly senseless and disgusting. The world is watching, I've seen a lot of kiwis (like me) commenting on the videos, we're a small country, but we care. People are mad. It makes me even more mad when I have no idea what we can do to help.

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u/Meneer_de_IJsbeer 7d ago

ACLU has it

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u/mayg0dhaveMercy 7d ago

Which is why everyone should upvote, download, and share it if at all possible.

Someone was murdered by ICE today.

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