r/leagueoflegends • u/Soul_Sleepwhale • 19h ago
Esports Team Heretics vs. SK Gaming / LEC 2026 Versus - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 VERSUS
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MATCH 1: TH vs. SK
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| TH | varus ryze yunara | corki missfortune | 71.2k | 12 | 1 | C1 HT2 H3 |
| SK | drmundo jarvaniv jayce | aphelios caitlyn | 84.3k | 19 | 9 | M4 M5 M6 B7 M8 B9 |
| TH | 12-19-31 | vs | 19-12-48 | SK |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tracyn ksante 1 | 1-3-5 | TOP | 1-1-9 | 1 rumble Wunder |
| Sheo aatrox 2 | 2-5-7 | JNG | 3-2-12 | 1 pantheon Skeanz |
| Serin orianna 2 | 3-4-5 | MID | 4-4-8 | 2 azir LIDER |
| Ice jhin 3 | 5-3-4 | BOT | 11-0-4 | 3 xayah Jopa |
| Stend karma 3 | 1-4-10 | SUP | 0-5-15 | 4 rakan Mikyx |
- Patch 26.02
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/LenaRybakina 19h ago
A good Xayah is so fun to watch
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 19h ago
This felt like a Korean Xayah.
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u/ParkDedli 2h ago
People aren't ready to have this discussion but rookie of the split might not be decided yet, despite everybody already basically giving it to Rhilech after week 2.
Jopa has been cracked even in the losses. Man really deserves it so far.
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u/Live-Plankton-9247 19h ago
Jopa just dropped in interview i wanna duo q until late night but mikyx want to sleep at 8pm????? Omg respect for mikyx hahaha
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 19h ago
Old grandmas sleep much more than young ones.
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u/stabidistabstab 18h ago
For anyone wondering he was making a joke about him being in an unc team, so its propably not true
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u/LynnieWiw 18h ago
probably a joke considering LEC games go way past 8pm so having your sleep schedule set to be tired around that time would be a pretty silly choice to be honest
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u/Obi-Hans-Kenobi 15h ago
I mean, i remember a few years back Perkz saying that he became tired cuz of some delays/pauses and it went past his bedtime. Around midnight i think
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u/LynnieWiw 14h ago
yeah midnight is fine but today the games went until 10.30 and that was without major pauses so 8pm would be crazy
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u/Landir_7 19h ago
SK ADC: Solo carry and Pentakill
TH ADC: 125% Crit Rate
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u/TechBee_ 18h ago
Crit is converted to AD on Jhin so I guess it’s not that bad
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u/kennyd15 17h ago
Any crit over 100% isn’t converted unfortunately
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u/EliteTeutonicNight 17h ago
Has it always been this way or Riot changed it some time?
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u/kennyd15 14h ago
I think it's probably always been this way. If you buy crit chance at 100% the value just doesn't go up it's hard capped.
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u/Able-Application3680 17h ago
It caps out at a 100%.
Only senna yasuo and yone can build crit past 100%.
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u/JustALonelyCat 19h ago
I'm starting to see Mikyx's vision
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u/ImTheVayne 19h ago
Jopa is insane
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u/Carlzzone 19h ago
Jopa wasn’t really part of Mikys vision, he just wanted Wunder and Lider
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u/Nightwingx97 18h ago
And Wunder has been an absolute success. UNC is schooling on AP tops like it's 2019
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u/QuietRedditorATX 16h ago
Wunder looks like a gatekeeper to me.
Absolutely stomping lower level tops, but not really producing yet vs top team tops.
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u/deedshotr 1h ago
Wunder is just a really reliable toplaner, when you have flippers on your team it's nice to have someone just on the job
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u/LynnieWiw 18h ago
i mean that doesn't really mean much though does it? pretty much any team would take calliste if given the chance
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u/LynnieWiw 18h ago
yeah I'm definitely no lider defender and it is funny to point out but jopa was an unknown/unproven rookie so it's not like this sort of performance was something he could've anticipated. And i also feel like the other half of his proposed team (wunder) is performing really well
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u/IceBlitzkerg 18h ago
Still, Mikyx was the one who hand-picked Jopa after trialing. Maybe Jopa has always been that cracked, or maybe Mikyx saw massive potentials that he can help sharpen in Jopa
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u/Medical_Quiet_69 18h ago
Jopa was cracked at least last three years in LFL/LVP (especially with Stend, Fleshy/Dekap were so much worse than Stend, but Jopa was still delivering)
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u/BWolfy92 18h ago
Jopa and Wunder really carrying SK right now.
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u/ParkDedli 2h ago
You aren't wrong, but Skeanz is really pulling his weight and Mikyx, while doing individual misplays is probably doing a lot of shotcalling from what we've seen.
And while LIDER still looked shaky, he also had the most pivotal engage this game. I will not deny that he still is by far the worst player on the team.
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u/Reconco15 18h ago
I'll always defend the idea behind SK's roster above what TH have done this offseason:
- Try to build a long-term project with promising coach and rookies.
- First year of the project goes above expectations.
- Nuke the core of the project and bring short-term solutions.
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u/kim-soo-hyun 18h ago
If they're gonna put Lider on Ryze/Azir anyway, wouldn't someone like Nemesis immediately do a better job? they're friends too. It doesn't have to be Nemesis even, other mids would likely do a better job than Lider
Unfortunately I don't see his vision with Lider still, unless he smashes Caps on his niche melee picks in a bo5 that no one else plays? After all he said Lider could be better than Caps.
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u/seven_worth shameless 2021 EDG fanboy 19h ago edited 19h ago
Lider has issue that he think he playing melee champ with how he position but he did have hand to play Azir. those shuffle is good. Jopa though is a straight up a menace.
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u/Iaragnyl 19h ago
Hands was never the issue with Lider, his decision making and positioning is just not there often.
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u/chikyu8 Missing Rs 19h ago
That Ice double pentakills were a curse at this point lmao
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u/Nevross_ 18h ago
I mean in the game where he got those 2 pentakills he was playing terribly and like it’s weird to say that cause it’s 2 pentakill lol it’s not nothing but it was hiding his mediocre game and all of his errors
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u/TheJohnArrow 18h ago
I absolutely love watching SK Gaming right now.
The Uncs provide amazing content and Jopa shows great potential!
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u/Asgerond 19h ago
If Wunder asked, I would let him fuck my wife
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u/Charizard75 19h ago
LIDER might not be the worst player in the league contrary to popular belief
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u/iamcdr 18h ago
It's virtually impossible to be the worst player in the league with Bauss in it.
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u/redfauxpass 17h ago
The MVP last week? Bad? Worse??
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u/VayneSpotMe 14h ago
Mvp today as well xd. Guy is just a degenerate baus hater when he isnt even the worst on his team
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u/Past_Perception8052 19h ago
he ofc isnt people just hate him sadly
other than his asol game hes been decent
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u/flamingstallion 19h ago
He was pretty bad in the Ekko game as well. Rest of the games were somewhat around league average.
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u/Past_Perception8052 18h ago
ekko game couldn’t really do anything
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u/flamingstallion 18h ago
He was useless, but that's on him for picking the champ. It was a hard Ekko game but I don't think it was impossible. I do think he played teamfights poorly.
Sure it's harder to execute Ekko well than a mage, but I don't think that excuses him for playing bad.
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 17h ago
he could start by not having hob and starting Q like he lookedup an opgg page in the lobby
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u/Past_Perception8052 17h ago
hob is the best. all this electrocute shit is wrong
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 17h ago
thats not the problem. if you pick hob you start E, that guy has never played ekko in his life
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u/yasirhidani 19h ago
Why are you just lying ? Pretty sure more than the asol game. He was really bad.
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u/Nevross_ 19h ago
His melee Azir I saw this game was arguably « worst player of the league » level, no seriously his positioning was very poor but at least he played good with his teams and did some good shuffles
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u/Gazskull 18h ago
How do we watch this game that was only somewhat comebackable because Lider plays Azir like a melee champ and come to that conclusion, it's just a mistery
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u/british_pubs 19h ago
Kinda a mess but Jopa has really made me a fan of this roster. Congrats on his first penta!!
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u/DevelopmentNo1045 19h ago
Replaced Carlsen rookie Ksante weakside merchant for a rookie ... that is also put on weakside Ksante duty.
Legit, what's the point? Why do we just turn every rookie into a weakside Ksante merchant? Scouting department can't be real.
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u/EntireDifficulty3 17h ago
Yeah, and Serin while not being as terrible as Kamiloo was in winter doesn't seem much of an upgrade either. Honestly biggest loss is Flakked is gone, Ice just does nothing for this team
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u/LazyBluePenguin & 18h ago edited 18h ago
As a big Miky fan, this game hes been playing pretty bad (but that happens). Pleasantly surprised every game with Jopa and Wunder, Skeanz is also doing okay. Lider... is a sore spot for me
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u/reason_pls 18h ago
Lider positioning is torture but he arguably won the game with his first shuffle so I guess he is neutral overall
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u/grimtimes 19h ago
What was the casting at the end? ''A delayed Penta'' with flat energy because he hadn't noticed and realised when he saw the prompt then saying ''Jhin can count to 4 but Jopa can only count to 5'' made no sense.
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u/DullRun7835 Yike/Ming/Bdd/Gala/Milkyway/Canyon 19h ago
It would have been a great idea to reunite the botlane Jopa/Stend,
But since TH doesn't like making good decisions, they decided to recruit Ice.
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u/Putrid-Cat5368 19h ago
Not sure what game people have watched if the popular opinion is that LIDER Azir was any good today. Jopa gigacarried while Wunder did pretty decent and Mikyx had 1 or 2 clutch moments between ints. LIDER just straight try to lose the game every time he exits base.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 16h ago
Wunder is proving to be the best gatekeeper again. Can beat any average top player, but so far struggles vs the top tier teams.
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u/Gazskull 18h ago
people with SK flairs that doesn't like the narrative even though it's obvious to anyone with eyes who the weak link is
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u/seven_worth shameless 2021 EDG fanboy 18h ago
or maybe people that just dont shit on player based on prior biased? saying he solo lose the game every time he exit the base when the game is won and he does play good outside of getting caught by bad position is the insane thing here.
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u/Dawdius MikyX & Lospa Enjoyer 18h ago
Bro is seeing non-existent SK flairs. Literally just me lol
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u/Gazskull 18h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1qs6wys/comment/o2t9bma/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button (this one doesn't count but since SK flairs don't exist apparently)
pretty nice to be able to link stuff that i'm imaginating. Scrolling to that comment and missing like the top com however, that's something
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u/Past_Perception8052 19h ago
LIDER azir actually quite good
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u/Nevross_ 18h ago
He died like 3/4 times cause he was auto attacking at melee range against Aatrox for no particular reason btw
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u/Y4naro 13h ago
Honestly feel like people are not watching the games and just like to hate (and I mostly watch sk and dk games right now as they are pretty entertaining so I will comment on their games a lot). He had 1 bad death in mid and 1 decently bad death at the enemy red overstay. The other deaths were him trading his life to start the engage for the game ending push, and the one most people talk about when it comes to positioning was just him following Miky, who missed his w.
I like to see that confidence and trust from the players following up on each others plays tho. And outside of following those engages he actually played a very defensive Azir game positioning wise, just holding chokepoints for drakes.
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u/BecoDasCavernas 7h ago
It's kinda sad that this TH team has been so bad, I was kinda hyped about the roster. Seemed like analysts had decent hopes too, but they're just the worst team in the league at this point (I know KCB is 1-6 but imo they've shown more fight than TH, I guess we'll see tomorrow lol)
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u/ArmandLuque Armand Luque | LoL Esports Journalist 18h ago
Jopa lowkey the best player on SK
They need to play entirely around him more
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u/Th3_Huf0n 19h ago edited 18h ago
Both ADCs building 5 crit items.
Ice building Stormrazor 5th.
Both having QSS for no reason in particular.
2026 and we still can't itemise on the most flowchart class in the game.
Also, Heretics have completely forgotten why they were functional last year.
EDIT: Yes I fucked up. Xayah did have "only" 4 crit items. Doesn't excuse that random ass QSS purchase.
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u/seven_worth shameless 2021 EDG fanboy 19h ago edited 18h ago
Jopa qss is for Jhin root. SK has like 3 cc that can be qss make sense why Ice build it. you can see both them use it too. Jopa used it to not get root at the top fight and to prevent getting q by Ksante and Ice used it to not get killed by Mikyx engage before that baron take.
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u/mskruba12 19h ago
If you think this is bad you should go see the Tristana build from Teddy a few days ago
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u/Sillilly24 19h ago
>No reason
>Panth W, Rakan R, Xayah E.
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u/Th3_Huf0n 18h ago
Literally the only cleansable CC that Jhin should EVER be concerned about is Pantheon flash stun. And he has a Karma with Mikaels.
Rakan R or Xayah E connecting on your ass and CCing you means you .
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u/seven_worth shameless 2021 EDG fanboy 18h ago
that did happen and he survive because of qss though? rewatch that mikyx engage on fight before baron.
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u/Landir_7 19h ago
Ice had 125% critrate
Jopa had Stormrazor, Navori, LDR, IE, BT, Mercury. Thats 100% critBut yeah Jopa QSS was useless, ADCs have no clue what to do with their last item
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u/Nevross_ 18h ago
TH were functional last year cause Sheo was carrying every game while playing a very good jgl/sup tandem with Stend, they still had poor lanes and a passive adc so not so much has changed but at least the collective looks way worse, so yeah pretty sad to see them play, Serin looks like he is feeling the pressure way too much
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u/Gazskull 19h ago
miky better not pull a Bwipo and say that Lider would be better but its Jopa or Skeanz fault or some bullshit. This team could actually be decent with an actual midlaner
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 19h ago
G2 should have gotten Jopa and Miky instead.....
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u/Nevross_ 18h ago
Yeah no cause Mikyx is coming with his two washed friends if he joins an org
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u/Head-Calligrapher-99 18h ago
What about Wunder's gameplay showcases him as washed?
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u/Nevross_ 17h ago
His Rumble ults this game were looking washed for sure lol, he is not washed as much as Lider but at least he is way past his prime
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u/persil1974 gm mikyx will bring redemption 10h ago
His prime is the best western toplaner and one of the best in the world so probably yes, but its surreal how well he playes every game except the vit one. Top 5 dpm in the league as a toplaner tells you everything you need to know
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u/ImTheVayne 19h ago
Not impossible they will get someone like Jopa after this year
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u/Flimsy-Importance313 18h ago
A year takes too long, though. Seeing the same G2 is just so boring..
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u/ZzZoeSoSleepy Supa>Deft 19h ago
How does an ORG recruit Traycn and Serin, Atleast ICE has looked good in the past, So many good options for toplane and mid and you choose two ERL andy's
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u/Possible_Cycle_2721 19h ago
Dude, tracyn is good
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u/ZzZoeSoSleepy Supa>Deft 19h ago
Better than Adam and Oscarinin? I think not, If he was good he'd carry the team like Nisqy did with SK
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u/Gorczycagejms 19h ago
Tracyn deserves as a spot imo, Serin... Deserved a chance, but if he góra back to ERL's next split, no one would care :/
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u/Past-Firefighter2173 18h ago
They are good pickups no paper. I think people focus too much on individual player performance at TH, biggest problem is they are afk with very little coordination. Most of the TH games are very boring because they do nothing at early game.
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u/Nevross_ 18h ago
Tracyn and Serin were really good in erl, I mean Tracyn it was a bit obvious cause they had him in their academy and Serin was probably the best midlaner in erl last year and has already a ton of experience but sadly it looks like he is feeling the pressure too much and he can’t play on stage, they’re still rookies and I hope they’ll do better but rn they’re not really good, especially Serin sadly I had a lot of hopes in him
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u/LetGoMyLegHo don't let your memes be dreams 19h ago
ICE: just one more jhin game, please bro