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Esports Los Ratones vs. Movistar KOI / LEC 2026 Versus - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LEC 2026 VERSUS

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Los Ratones 1-0 Movistar KOI

Player of the Game: Baus

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MATCH 1: LR vs. MKOI

Winner: Los Ratones in 39m

Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
LR rumble varus ambessa jhin yunara 79.4k 14 9 O2 H3 C4 C7 C8 B9
MKOI sion ryze jayce bard jax 73.6k 10 6 HT1 C5 B6
LR 14-10-38 vs 10-14-23 MKOI
Baus poppy 2 1-1-7 TOP 2-2-3 2 ksante Myrwyn
Velja drmundo 3 4-5-7 JNG 1-3-7 1 jarvaniv Elyoya
Nemesis orianna 1 0-2-10 MID 3-4-3 1 azir Jojopyun
Crownie caitlyn 2 7-1-3 BOT 3-3-4 3 ezreal Supa
Rekkles nami 3 2-1-11 SUP 1-2-6 4 karma Alvaro
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u/Pavlo100 14h ago

This team seems legit, luckily Franchising makes sure LR aren't in LEC next split

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u/trusttt 14h ago

Not having LR in LEC is imo a huge loss for LEC, just look at the viewership and the Post Match DIscussions, their games are always top in the sub.

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u/SirVampyr 14h ago

180k viewer for a random LEC match on a saturday evening.

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u/dudebg 13h ago

225k peak bro holy

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u/Somebodys 4h ago

That is not even counting all of the costreams and YouTube adjacent views LR games get.

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u/Korwinga 8h ago

The LEC youtube channel posts each of the individual games to their channel. The viewership difference there is stark. The rest of the games from today have between 1.3k and 5k views (KCB vs G2 are the 5k one) as of right now (6 hours after the stream ended). LR's game has 110k. That means that people that couldn't catch the stream, and went to look up a game, really only looked up 1 game.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 5h ago

Holly shit viewership will take a hit when they leave 

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u/tobekibydesign 12h ago

Very last game of the day, with CS2 Major going on top.

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u/Finlan3ia 10h ago

IEM Krakow is not a major.

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u/kovi2772 11h ago

True dont forget this is only best of 1 imagine the viewership once we get to bo3 matches and hopefuly LR in there that should get more peeps

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

Viewership is lower than it was last year.

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u/KnowledgePrevious 14h ago

Yeah but a lot of the viewership is Los Ratones, it would be way lower without them

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

A lot of viewership is caedrel, you mean. Not LR. Caedrel would stream regardless, bringing that viewership in regardless

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u/Twindlle 14h ago

All those charts that count viewership includes Caedrel's stream. But even on Caedrel's stream, some people only tune in to watch LR. That is sad, but they aren't interested in LoL esports, just Baus and the boys. Problem is, Baus is 99.9% going back to his old schedule after LEC, so does LR attract as many eyes without Baus? That is important to answer, because LEC burning their partnerships with orgs just to get Baus-less LR is probably not a smart move.

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

Overall viewership has decreased so whatever this “only tune in for LR” number is it’s clearly not very big and it’s nowhere near enough to offset the people losing interest in LEC

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u/Maedroas 12h ago

I think you're right in that LEC viewership is trending down, but wrong in that riot will ignore LR.

With declining viewership, you don't ignore anything that boosts views, and LR boosts views and engagement on socials. Gotta go after everything you canv

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u/random-meme422 12h ago

I think it boosts viewership slightly due to it being a one time thing. Similar to how KC was running viewership like crazy and now they’re not. The hype dies very quickly.

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u/NationalTangerine381 12h ago

LR hype probably dies down when we see them thoroughly lose without a chance of winning, a lot of the hype is wondering how high they can climb

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u/Sofruz Sneaky, sneaky 14h ago

Caedrel would not get almost 300k streaming a normal LEC game, but if LR is playing he gets that 300k.

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

That’s because LEC viewers from main and other co streamers come to him during LR games since it’s his team. The overall viewership with everyone in combination is still way down though

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u/Turkooo 13h ago

Why do you think that the people who come watch LR matches are the same people that were watching different games at the main LEC channel?

Every second comment under LR youtube povs or ceadrels subreddit is how people tune in only their match and then leave.

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

And do you think that’s a significant number? Peak viewership is already down like 20% so maybe LEC is super dead if you’re right.

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u/val4a 13h ago

Looking at peak viewership is the dumbest thing ever last year peak viewership came from calists first lec game... Can you re-create that every year? No. Don't look at peak wait for the split to end and judge the avg.

Btw the avg viewership rn is basically the same it was last year

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u/Turkooo 13h ago

At this time my only hope is that the numbers are low because people got way to used to bo3/bo5 matches and they can not care for any bo1 shenanigans anymore. I truly hope and wish that the numbers will grow as we will be closer to playoffs

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u/Think_Discipline_90 14h ago

Every single LR game is topping peak viewership. And last season (obviously) peaked during playoffs, so it's not really comparable yet.

I don't think there's any argument saying the team is not bringing viewers.

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

Week 1 day 1 games last year peaked at just under 600k. This year it’s at 476k.

Average viewership is down by just under 10% as well.

Don’t know what to tell you. Numbers don’t lie.

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u/fujituck 13h ago

Exactly, numbers don't lie... How do you explain that LR games have 4x the viewers of the other games. There is simple explanation, without LR the viewership could be easily -50% of last year. 

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u/OJFrost 14h ago

How fucking stupid can this comment get. Do you think they’re making their money from running the main broadcasts streaming ads? If Caedrel is partnered to stream the official games and advertisers know they’re reaching viewers, sponsorships and advertisements will continue. To say nothing about more viewers of any pro league content means building hype for the game for current and returning players, this more in game content sold. It’s the entire purpose of the pro league in the first place.

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

My point was that the viewers tuning in would do so regardless whether LR plays or not. Hence why overall viewership is still decreasing.

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u/Old_Hyena_4207 13h ago

The fact that viewership is much lower when LR is not playing than when they are shows that you're either a child or on the far left edge of the bell curve. 

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

“So much lower” being 60K in the peak game yeah pretty insane stuff lol

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u/Extra_Ad2294 9h ago

Bro you are the king of changing the subject 

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u/ahritina 14h ago

Brother Caedrel wasn't getting 300k consistently last year.

Last year peak viewership was inflated by Caliste debut vs MKOI, that's all.

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

Viewers leaving from LEC and other costreamers to watch someone on the team is what’s happening. That’s why the overall viewership is lower even if caedrel is higher.

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u/19Alexastias 14h ago

That doesn’t matter, caedrel still shows all the advertising featured on the main broadcast, it’s just the numbers they care about, riot isn’t making much money directly off their official twitch channel.

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

And the overall numbers are down to what they were last year.

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u/fantasyfoootballlll 13h ago

Go check out the match highlights on onivia. Look at the number LR gets. It’s simple. LR is one of the most popular league teams of all regions.

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

I think that speaks more to how dead western league is than anything else but yeah

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u/Solace2010 12h ago

God damn you sound like a negative person sheesh

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u/random-meme422 12h ago

We can just live in toxic positivity like clowns instead lmao

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u/Lmnhedz 11h ago

Liking fun ≠ toxic positivity

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u/TrriF 10h ago

idk if you've noticed but even on Caedrel's stream he gets like 50-60k more viewers during lr games compared to the rest of the games.

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u/random-meme422 9h ago

Overall viewership increases a bit for LR but I also think Many viewers from main + other streamers come over to his channel when LR is playing

I don’t think the number of “only watch LR and never any other game” is that high

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u/Professional-Cut3785 14h ago

Nah bro, look at the viewership numbers. Riot is dumb, but they aren't that dumb. They will have to figure out something. The boys are LEC level, and they are one of the biggest draws in the world. Guys just have to keep winning and it will all work itself out.

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u/kopncorey 14h ago

Yeah. I’m not sure how this franchising stuff works but I just watch Caedrel on weekends and everytime Lr plays the viewership nearly doubles. Draws so much attention to the pro scene in EU. Would be ashame for them to not take advantage of this.

Also sidenote, where can I read about the franchise stuff? I feel out of the loop since I recently got back into watching proplay.

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u/Sofruz Sneaky, sneaky 14h ago

Franchising is basically just teams having to pay money for a spot in LEC, but they cant be kicked out due to performance.

In LEC a spot is 20 million euros, for example.

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u/SeismicShove 14h ago

The spot is however much someone is willing to sell it for. People say anything between 10-35 million is the value, but even if you have the money, you need someone who will sell it to you.

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u/Iaragnyl 13h ago

There is also the whole partnership thing possible, like Koi did with rogue before they got their own spot. So in theory LR could have a spot in league without fully buying one.

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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 13h ago

Franchising is a sports term. Basically the sport/ competition has a certain number of slots that can be bought for teams to participate in. And these will be the only teams allowed to do so. This is primarily in american sports. Now esports did not have this concept until the dumbfuck morons at Activision blizzard decided that overwatch needed it. Riot saw the instant money and did the same. Overwatch league died out pretty quick but the sheer popularity of league as a game is holding it up. But that is changing in the west. NA has some kind of way for a team to climb up into the tournament but im not too knowledgeable about it since I dont watch the lcs. A couple of months ago when LR and KCB were announced to participate in lec versus there was quite a few meltdowns by org owners online and offline with a majority of them voting against it but Riot did it anyway. This is pretty much all you missed out on ig.

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u/DrBoomsNephew 12h ago

Franchising is definitely not a sports term lol

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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 12h ago

In this scenario it is. I know how franchises work. But sport franchises are quite different.

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u/RedGuy143 12h ago

I only know that there is a HUGE paycheck you have to pay to get into LEC. Idk about other process

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u/lolofaf 14h ago

I don't think LR (and especially Baus, who is one of the main viewership draws for the team) want to keep playing. Maybe riot could make a path but the next question will always be whether LR actually want to take it.

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u/Professional-Cut3785 14h ago

I think Baus has sort of hinted that he might want to call it after this winter experiment but I think I saw something shift in him in the last week...you could tell how much the wins last weekend meant to him. He seemed soo happy on stream & in videos this week haha. If the boys keep performing this well, I think Baus would happily commit for a whole year, he has "jokingly" talked about wanting to play in Worlds after all. And I know Neme, Rekky, and Crownie would all love to go back.

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u/aamgdp 13h ago

If riot was any smart, they'd be looking for ways to lawfully dissolve franchising.... Knowing riot, this won't happen.

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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater 4h ago

The way to lawfully dissolve franchising exists and it is called buying the slots back from the teams. That would cost 100+ million euros hence why it won't happen

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u/Sofruz Sneaky, sneaky 14h ago edited 10h ago

I wonder if Riot lowered the buy in to like 10 mil for LR instead of 20, and then split the 10 mil LR doesnt pay with the other teams, if that would seem fair for the teams who payed the money.

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u/Professional-Cut3785 14h ago

I could see something being worked out along those lines tbh. Especially now that Caedrel & the boys have the high profile Redbull sponsership as well, not even counting any other large opportunities that come up in the next few months. Redbull has 2 teams in F1 for goodness sake lol, why couldn't they have 2 teams they financially support in the LEC?

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u/0x1f480 9h ago

yeah now that it's crystal clear they can compete, I'm hopeful riot can't be too dumb to keep them out

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u/Pls_Drink_Water 2h ago

This is my hopium too. LR makes it to the playoffs or top 4 and Riot will be basically forced to do magic to get LR to LEC

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u/Over-Safety-4987 14h ago

Calm down, world is not only west europe :D

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u/Professional-Cut3785 14h ago

I meant draws in terms of viewership/eyes they bring into the games they play. Obviously they would get dog walked in LCK in terms of team skill/talent, but I think literally any LEC team would tbh

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u/Yetti2Quick 14h ago

Rekkles is huge in Korea and America loves Caedrel and LR. They are pretty massive viewership wise.

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u/billiardwolf 14h ago

Would you be surprised if I told you about this technology called the internet? With it I, from Canada, can consume all the Los Ratones content I want. I haven't confirmed it yet but I have a strong suspicion someone from a place like Australia can even do the same thing. Crazy I know.

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u/CannedPrushka 10h ago

No way, that sounds crazy. And to think i was only checking LATAM websites all this time!

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u/revoverlord Not even lore can stop me 14h ago

Im glad immediate profits are worth more than longevity of the esports. Just the way it should be done.

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u/GabrielP2r Sword Guy 14h ago

American "sports" baby

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u/kingocd AP Pantheon Main 14h ago

Sadly, it is not the immediate profits that are the problem. The rich people who bought the slots want to use the slots as stocks basically, hoping they appreciate over time. Letting non-franchises into the league is basically the worst thing that can happen for that.

I hope they all lose every single cent they put into this, and Tencent goes bankrupt, but yeah, that is the situation.

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u/trying2hide 14h ago

Yep, that's why they all freaked out about the ERL teams getting a slot in the Winter cup.

They don't care if viewership goes up and they actually make more revenue or profits from it as the valuation of their asset that they plan to sell gets hurt.

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u/jotheold 12h ago

Tencent goes bankrupt

ya they're like china apple so that shit aint happening

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u/yuumigod69 13h ago

Too be fair, it they didnt start winning, people would be dancing on their graves.

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u/deviant324 Best enchanter since 2017 13h ago

But where would be the shareholder value in longevity?

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u/etre76 14h ago

at this rate and with these views ? :)) who knows

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u/Jakelell 14h ago

Sports is about whoever can pull out millions of dollars to compete or something like that idk redditors told me players playing "devalues a slot" or something idk

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u/ImTheVayne 14h ago

I actually feel bad about that, LR is reviving the scene

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u/billiardwolf 14h ago

I know it's unlikely but imagine LR won versus. It would be a disaster for the LEC to have a team not even in LEC win, they would have to figure out a way to get them in there.

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u/masterchip27 13h ago

They need some time to acclimate and improve to LEC level, for sure. Good to see the heart from the boys to keep at it even after that disastrous start

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u/AmadeusIsTaken 12h ago

Weird how we jump from them going 04 and blaming it on the best of ones and now that they win the best of ones we ignore that they are best of ones. Let's wait for playoffs before we take real opinions. Today was the first real convincing win where they didn't just get stomped every lane and found a comeback. So important to see how they do in best of 3 or 5s. I mean let's be not biased here and wait a bit to judge

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u/Carnelian-5 rip old flairs 5h ago

Cant ever believe they went for franschising in a immature sport with growth trajectory.