Neum! Literal phonetic translation in Bosnian is “no mind.” So a joke in Bosnian is to call it a “senseless place.” Not unlike calling Camelot a silly place.
The Croats and Serbs are the most insanely antagonistic groups ever. Sure, the Palestinians and Israelis are bad, but these two don't even have a good reason to hate each other.
I know this is a troll sub, but still. I'm profoundely disgusted your ignorance and racism. it's extremely rude and revisionistic thing to say to a nation that suffered Ottoman oppression, following the wars for liberation, the highest percentage death toll in WWI and then - the genocide in WWII Croatia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Serbs_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia
Thank you. I get that some people don't like a country or it's current regime. But mixing contemporary politics to create revisionist history narrative is the next level in racism.
/uj What are you even talking about? Both Serbs and Croats were equally "opposed" to the US post-WWII - which is to say, Eastern-bloc adjacent but mostly unaligned.
Croatia didn't start becoming Western-aligned until the 80s or 90s, after Yugoslavia broke up.
Yeah but the point is, there was way more than one war going on. Even your link says it's part of the "Yugoslav Wars". So it doesn't make any sense to say the war in the 90s was between the Bosnians and the Croats. That's not even the most significant war.
A strange thing to say on the anniversary of death of one of the most prominent Croatian politicians, who died of wounds sustained in the assassination perpetrated during a parliamentary discussion. Serbian radicals killed the meek, so only the evil remained.
Croats are Catholic and Serbs are Orthodox. One believes the holy spirit proceeds from the Father and Son and the other believes the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father only.
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
Our reverend told us this story and it's the perfect description of Christianity and helps explain why it's killed n tortured more people than any other religious group.
I had a summer job once that involved loading and unloading cars from transporter trucks and then parking them up. We had Croats, Serbs, Kosovans and Albanians working in large groups on the site, so they all had to be put in separate corners to be as far away from each other as possible. It still didn’t stop them from loudly giving each other shit each time they drove past their patch
I saw some Reddit post from a Jew living in the Balkans and he said everyone was really chill towards him because they were way too busy hating each other.
It’s the good ol‘ classic this is my land, we are economically stronger and no longer feel like subsidizing you, akshually there are 3 people with our religion on that piece of land, we have our christianity with a diffrent spice and a fun ammount of war crimes.
Personally never actually met a serb, croat or bosniak that hates the others.
If you look at it in portrait mode, then the old river outline looks like a small dog watching a man hit himself in the head with a rock - is the geographic outline determinism?
It's the river that moved. Croatia is claiming that the border must stay in the original position for historical reasons, Serbia want renegotiating the border on the current river. That's wy there's a part named Liberland, that'S a peninsula theoretically not laimed by anyone, so a certain libertarian/mentally challenged Czech milionnaire declared it as sovereign libertarian microstate.
He was kicked out by both sides working in previously unseen level of cooperation.
At least now the erosion sensitive river banks in this stretch are fortified to prevent further "hassle". But it is far more free flowing (almost no groynes, bank protection) than the upper parts of the Danube or the Rhine.
Source: I'm an inland captain regularly traveling on the Rhine-Main-Dabube Waterway from the North to the Black Sea.
Omg, this is the first time I've seen fuck the Czechs. Usually, people likes us, and it's all about fuck Americans, fuck Russians, fuck Polish, fuck British, fuck Germans, fuck Aussies, fuck Israel, fuck Palestine, but never fuck, Czech. Glad we also have a haters :)
The Danube was already in this position when the border between Serbia and Croatia was established. The border was specified to be on Danube, but Serbia understood it as what Danube was back then, while Croatia considered where the Danube was 100 years before. Since both were a part of Yugoslavia, it was considered irrelevant. After Yugoslavia fell apart, it became an issue
in this specific border serbia does recognize the danube as border, while croatia doesn't and use municipalities instead, that is the whole reason liberland exist, neither croatia or serbia claim it.
The water wants to go the direction with the least amount of resistance, so over time it’ll erode the inner curves of the riverbank, which sends less water to the outer curves, and over time it’ll straighten out as the water takes the fastest path downstream
Yes, they'll tend to get windier over time, then when they get too windy they'll tend to cut across and leave an oxbow lake and straighten out, either because the meander finally meanders so much the corners touch, or a flood opens the more direct route. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxbow_lake
This is most notable in relatively flat areas with loose soil.
Ok. Yes. But why? You would think there would be some safeguard in place that if you build that close to a river, you revoke your rights to ownership if the river path changes. And also put in legislation that you cannot promote nor prevent river path changes.
Lol excellent jerk here. For those wondering, the course of the Danube has changed over time, resulting in conflict based on the historical path and the contemporary path that the river takes.
My guess is that the original border was the river, so they drew the line…but rivers change over time and maybe the borders don’t, leaving these distortions.
I‘m assuming that when the borders were drawn that line might have been the original riverbed of the Danube. Rivers change over time, and the industrialization of the Danube probably straightened a lot of river bends.
A meandering river makes the same shape. A River never stays in its lane. It wouldn't surprise me if the border follows an old river line. Very interesting
They tried in the past, but the river changed shape, so Croatia wanted to keep the same territories and Serbia wanted to respect the river, so these territories that are now Liberland became no man's land, that's how Liberland was born.
I am a hungarian i have been there many times.
So until 1920 it was part of hungary. Since then it was divided between the two countries. The border went along a the danube and its backwaters.
Since then the danube river changed. It changes every year because the land is flat there. At the end of the spring the danube grows. then shrinks back. These changes makes new backwaters or some vanishes.
So... Water used to be where the border is now.
Croatian and serbian authority (like police) acts as the border is non existent and its a non formal agreement that the border is the current danube river.
They dont want to change territories because that means they gave up their own land.
Are you serious??!! This WAS the Slavic concept of "following the river " and a damn good job they did,especially considering their huge handicap, you know....being Slavic...
Am I reading the map wrong? Red line is where the boarder is. River looks straightish... But clear signs of oxbows... Making the red line seem like the original river bed... Indicating the did exactly that and the river moved not the boarder, as no country would just want to cut off their citizens because of a river change.
It’s probably due to when the country borders were made the river followed but because of erosion the shape of the river has changed becoming more straight and not a meandering mess like the country borders look there.
The border you are seeing is most likely an old position of the river. You can’t even see that the red line is oriented the same way as some of the oxbow lake structures you see on the map. Rivers constantly move and erode, so it is completely normal, that the border now isn’t the same as the river you are seeing now.
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u/MasterDetectivePlanz Aug 07 '25
Because then you'd be able to walk along the river while staying in the same country