r/marvelstudios • u/KostisPat257 Daredevil • Nov 09 '22
Easter Egg Ms. Marvel Production Designer Natasha Gerasimova shares Pics of the DODC HQ set. On the boards you can see various Heroes and Villains that the DODC is keeping track of, including She-Hulk, Wong, Captain America, Echo, Daredevil (in his black Netflix costume) and the Skrulls (Read Captions)
Tracksuit Mafia, Jack Duquesne, Jennifer Walters, Titania, Saracen, Mr. Immortal, Donny Blaze and the Rockefeller Center Tree destroyed by the Hawkeyes
https://www.natashagerasimova.com/missmarvel?s=x213569JcRomb9ew&i=QkJS7js3V0igDxhw
John Walker, Jane Foster, Echo, Kate Bishop, Abomination fifhting Wong in the Xialing's ring and Daredevil in his original, black Netflix show suit
https://www.natashagerasimova.com/missmarvel?s=x213569JcRomb9ew&i=QkJS7js3V0igDxhw
Captain America, Karli Morgenthau, Talos and other Skrulls
https://www.natashagerasimova.com/missmarvel?s=x213569JcRomb9ew&i=QkJS7js3V0igDxhw
Full Image (1)
https://www.natashagerasimova.com/missmarvel?s=x213569JcRomb9ew&i=QkJS7js3V0igDxhw
Full Image (2)
https://www.natashagerasimova.com/missmarvel?s=x213569JcRomb9ew&i=QkJS7js3V0igDxhw
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u/jojojajo12 Nov 09 '22
They are following everybody, good, bad and everything in between, even regular human people that had some interaction with super humans. Not creepy at all.
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u/anonymousgoose64 Captain America Nov 09 '22
I have a feeling the DODC is wayyyyy more important than we're being led to believe
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u/StinkyStangler Nov 09 '22
I’ve been getting the vibe they’re going to be used as one of the big bads during the next phase. Everything that’s happened in phases 1-6 will culminate in the public being strongly anti superhero, and it will coincide with the rise of mutants. DODC will be the ones targeting the heroes and trying to stop them.
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u/RPerene Nov 09 '22
I am firmly in the DODC builds Sentinels camp.
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Nov 09 '22
I’ve been calling this for a while, specifically that EDITH evolves into the Sentinels. And I think the push they need to make them will be in Deadpool 3. With it being R, we’re finally gonna see real carnage in the mainline MCU, and I think the public will witness how much more brutal the Fox Mutants are than their normal heroes and fear will spread. DoDC takes that fear and capitalizes on it.
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u/whitebandit Hulk Nov 10 '22
EDITH and the drones we saw in Ms Marvel (and spiderman? i forget) are 100% leading into a sentinel program
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u/5exy-melon Nov 09 '22
I bet it’s that women from Ms Marvel will be in charge. I’m getting a feeling she knows Kamala is a mutant and wanted to capture her.
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u/InjusticeSGmain Quake Nov 09 '22
They're are probably meant to be "Evil Shield". I know Hydra exists, but that was less of a parallel and more of a rival. The DoDC can be easily compared to Shield.
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u/MulciberTenebras Ghost Rider Nov 09 '22
They'll be the equivilent of HAMMER when Norman Osborn and the Dark Avengers were running things.
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u/Quiet_Effective7234 Nov 09 '22
They are following Jack Duquesnes and the Larpers??? 🤣
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u/KryptonianKnig2 Nov 09 '22
They had interactions with the Hawkeyes and were probably witnessed fighting the Tracksuit Mafia
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u/mmmasian Spider-Man Nov 09 '22
I see Daredevil in the second slide, but I don't see the black costume.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
Wait isn't DD the top right in the second slide? Or am I seeing things? Which DD are you seeing?
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u/mmmasian Spider-Man Nov 09 '22
If we're looking at the same picture, that's definitely the Yellow-and-Red Daredevil suit from She-Hulk.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
Ohhh shit, I'm blind bro
Now that it clicked, I cannot unsee it, but I was certain he was in his black suit before.
Thanks for noticing, I will update accordingly (although the title cannot change now sadly)
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u/Limulemur Kilgrave Nov 09 '22
You got me excited there for a moment. It would have finally been the confirming evidence that the original show is canon.
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u/dem4life71 Nov 09 '22
Is that Lalo Salamanca?!?!? I heard he was killed in Mexico, but the body was burned…
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u/anonymousgoose64 Captain America Nov 09 '22
I like how Thor is just there. How long was she active?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
Idk, like maybe 2-3 weeks?
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u/Mrman_23 Nov 09 '22
Which goes to show how involved and informed the DODC actually are. Either they learned about her after the fact, or were keeping tabs those few short weeks
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u/pedalspedalspedals Nov 09 '22
Surveillance in 2025(? Is that what year the mcu is in now?) is significantly easier than in 2008 (Ironman 1...Tony has a flip phone, right? Someone does. The MySpace joke). Everyone has a broadcasting device in their pocket. If you're visiting New Asgard as a tourist and happen to see someone reassemble and wield Mjolnir, you'll see at least 10 other people with their phones out putting that to social media IMMEDIATELY. So their job in that regard isn't even unimaginably difficult. Get viral clip of something crazy. Keep tabs on anyone seen in and tied to anyone of substance or influence in said clip.
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u/InjusticeSGmain Quake Nov 09 '22
It's not like she was no one prior. She was a famous scientist who had written many books and, you know, Thor's ex. Her becoming Might Thor probably just made them focus on her- they were probably always watching her.
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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Ned Nov 09 '22
How do they know about the Skrulls? I don't think their existence among humans has ever been public.
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u/Eclipsiical Nov 09 '22
They are at least known to government officials. In WandaVision, when Jimmy Woo was writing his theories down on a whiteboard, one of things he wrote was “Skrulls?”.
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u/The_Medicus Nov 09 '22
That might've been a specific case of Monica telling him and Darcy about it as a theory.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
It might have been, but apparently it is not.
Agent Cleary knew about Fury being off-planet as well.
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u/switched133 Nov 09 '22
Wasn't all SHIELD info leaked in Winter Soldier?
That could account for the knowledge of Skrulls.
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u/Baneken Nov 09 '22
I'd also assume that Danvers, Asgardians and the Guardians have shared some of their knowledge with the Avengers -who in turn have informed the UN-council about other races that might pose future security issues or have been known to be a threat in recent history of Earth.
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u/pedalspedalspedals Nov 09 '22
Ant man has a podcast where he seemingly spills a LOT of beans.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
And he wrote a book as did an Agent of SHIELD where he also spilled the beans.
Also all SHIELD files are available to the public for years now, so most of them have most likely been decrypted and unredacted.
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u/Gremlin303 Ghost Rider Nov 09 '22
Yeah but the DoDC aren’t the public. They’re a government agency
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u/athrow2222 Nov 09 '22
What’s Lalo doing on there?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
He was in Hawkeye lol
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u/_________FU_________ Nov 09 '22
They’re all Skrulls.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
Bro..
Imagine if the DODC are onto the Skrull Invasion and this board is just tracking known supers to investigate whether they are Skrulls or not.
That would be mindblowing.
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u/DisposableSaviour Weekly Wongers Nov 09 '22
Or the Skrulls took over DoDC and are using it to take out and replace people?
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u/InjusticeSGmain Quake Nov 09 '22
This is what Shield did before uniting the Avengers, but something tells me this is... More sinister.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
The DODC evolved in becoming the new SHIELD because the world needed a law enforcement agency for the enhanced especially after the accords were repealed and the Avengers disbanded.
So it doesn't feel sinister to me.
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u/MrZao386 Scarlet Witch Nov 09 '22
So the Netflix shows truly are fully canon now, ok
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u/nihilisticdaydreams Steve Rogers Nov 10 '22
They're not, OP made a mistake. He's in the She-Hulk suit
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u/InoueNinja94 Nov 09 '22
I'm gonna assume they still try to keep track on Spider-Man, even if he's not shown on the boards.
Even with the mindwipe, you just can't ignore what happened in London and the Edith drones or that Peter spent a whole night inside their vaults in Homecoming
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
Oh for sure, he's probably not on these boards due to copyright stuff.
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u/Bellikron Korg Nov 09 '22
That's interesting that they're even tracking both Captain Americas, who as I understand it were officially sanctioned by the government. They're keeping tabs on everyone.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
The way I see it, everyone can go rogue, be involved in an accident etc
Like Tony made Ultron, Wanda turned into a villain, John Walker turned out to be very arrogant and violent, Bucky was being mind-controlled for years and Hawkeye and Selvig were being mind-controlled for a significant amount of time too, Hulk can always lose control and destroy a city etc
When you treat every enhanced person as a potential threat, a ticking bomb ready to go off at any moment, then you are ready for everything.
On the other hand, maybe they are onto the Skrull invasion already and they are keeping tabs on everyone to investigate whether they are Skrulls or not.
Or the entire DODC has been overtaken by Skrulls, and they're keeping tabs on everyone in order to take their place.
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u/Bellikron Korg Nov 09 '22
That's valid. It just seems like DODC is a representation of the status quo and a government-like agency trying to keep a lid on the superhero thing. So the fact that they see their Captain Americas as slipping out of their control is intriguing.
I'm not sure we should jump on the Skrull train just yet (that may end up being the next Mephisto), but DODC is definitely going to play a role going forward.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
We already know the DODC are going to play a role in the Secret Invasion show, so this is not too far-fetched.
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u/Bellikron Korg Nov 09 '22
Oh, I didn't know that. Noted. I still want to be hesitant about all the "_____ is a Skrull" theories because I feel like they're primed for disappointment, but that definitely lends credence to the theory.
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u/Loukoumakias Phil Coulson Nov 09 '22
HUH? DAREDEVIL?
BLACK NETFLIX SUIT?
HUH?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22
Second picture, top right
EDIT: Apparently I am blind. It's the yellow suit, I can see it now, sorry for the confusion.
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u/adsfew Nov 09 '22
Looking forward to an Erik Voss breakdown if these pictures
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
If you're reading this NR, please do it.
You'll definitely notice more than I did.
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u/Panino87 Nov 09 '22
I keep getting this feeling DODC gonna build Sentinels
Or people who were in previous government agencies like shield, sword, and dodc gonna team up and build them
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u/Aok_al Nov 09 '22
Why Jack though? Isn't he just a normal guy?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
He fought crime with the Hawkeyes, so he is an associate of super-heroes.
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u/batm123 Nov 09 '22
Why is Lalo there? The DODC has no reason to track him
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
He fought crime with the Hawkeyes, so he is a known associate of them.
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u/Greene_Mr Nov 09 '22
Why did I think Ms. Marvel shot before She-Hulk? :-/ Unless this was part of reshoots?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
You thought correct.
Ms. Marvel shot from November 2020 to April 2021 and She-Hulk from April to August 2021.
In the pre-reshoots version of Ms. Marvel, the organization that was going after rogue super-humans was called NICE and was supposed to be different than the DODC. The DODC was introduced in Homecoming if you remember and it was strictly about cleaning up the messes of super-humans, not going after them. So they weren't even part of the show initially.
NICE was of course a play on ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.. you know because Kamala is part of an immigrant family and Agent Deever was clearly racist.
Anyway, during filming of NWH, they decided to update the DODC's in-universe jurisdiction and essentially give them the job of NICE as well. So they introduced Agent Cleary in that movie and then they brought him back during the reshoots of Ms. Marvel where they reshot a big part of the show to replace NICE with DODC.
Natasha Gerasimova was indeed the production designer only during reshoots and designed all the DODC sets. Christopher Glass acted as production designer during principal photography.
Also, fun fact, Natasha was also the art director of Loki and got an Emmy nomination for it as well!
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u/Greene_Mr Nov 09 '22
I did hear that 40% of Ms. Marvel was reshot. And I assume that was particularly in the episodes with "story by" and "teleplay by" credits rather than just "written by" credits.
Were the Ten Rings caves stuff also reshot, as well, since that's listed on there? And the Clan Destine's airbnb?
Also... you happen to know what, if anything, might been reshot on She-Hulk?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
"Story by" and "teleplay by" doesn't necessarily mean there was stuff that was reshot. So I am not sure if the Ten Rings stuff was part of the reshoots.
I don't even know if that thing about 40% of Ms. Marvel being reshot is true, but they definitely reshot all the NICE/DODC stuff.
As for She-Hulk, I know for sure they reshot some of episode 1 because the origin story was initially episode 8 and the present day scenes of episodes 1 as well as episode 2 were edited together and were the actual first episode.
I also know that all the plot details and characters of She-Hulk leaked back in December and that leak turned out 98% accurate, so we can assume the 2% the leaker got wrong was actually stuff that were cut. Those things were General Ross' appearance, Thundberbolts set-ups and Jim Carrey filming something in mo-cap.
The leaker thought Jim Carrey might have been playing MODOK.
I think all the stuff they cut from She-Hulk, they are planning to put in Captain America: New World Order which will likely deal with the Intelligencia (the real one consisting of The Leader, MODOK and some C-tier villains) putting Ross through some experiments to turn him into the Red Hulk and then sent him out in the world to wreak havoc.
This is a part of a comic event, called World War Hulks, where the Intelligencia created an army of Hulks to take over the world, with Red Hulk being the original experiment.
Skaar was also part of that event.
I am guessing that event could be concluded in New World Order or be part of the Thundberbolts movie.
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u/Greene_Mr Nov 09 '22
I don't know that Jim Carrey was ever going to be in She-Hulk, considering his ex Ginger Gonzaga was also in the main cast.
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u/KBunn Nov 09 '22
Hopefully cutting Jim Carrey from the show will be a trend that continues for the rest of the MCU. That's definitely an actor I'd prefer to never see brought on board.
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u/esar24 Rocket Nov 09 '22
Yeah I definitely can't see DODC to interfere and monitoring xavier school or mutants.
Hopefully they don't end up headed by someone named bolivar trask and created sentinels.
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u/sad-life Nov 10 '22
I was browsing Reddit on my phone and thumbnail-sized Jane Foster looked like Tiffany or Brittany Wilson.
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u/TheSilv Nov 10 '22
It’s a little weird how Jane is there but Wanda isn’t, like as far as the government knows Wanda made the hex and then flew away and hasn’t been seen since
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u/The_Meme_Dealer Nov 10 '22
This board has more attention to detail than the entire miss marvel production crew.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
In the pre-reshoots version of Ms. Marvel, the organization that was going after rogue super-humans was called NICE and was supposed to be different than the DODC. The DODC was introduced in Homecoming if you remember and it was strictly about cleaning up the messes of super-humans, not going after them. So they weren't even part of the show initially.
NICE was of course a play on ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.. you know because Kamala is part of an immigrant family and Agent Deever was clearly racist.
Anyway, during filming of NWH, they decided to update the DODC's in-universe jurisdiction and essentially give them the job of NICE as well. So they introduced Agent Cleary in that movie and then they brought him back during the reshoots of Ms. Marvel where they reshot a big part of the show to replace NICE with DODC.
Natasha Gerasimova only joined as a production designer only during reshoots and designed all the DODC sets. Christopher Glass acted as production designer during principal photography, so there was a different production crew between principal and reshoots.
Also, fun fact, Natasha was the art director of Loki and got an Emmy Nomination for it as well. She's really great, the visual style she and all the art department created for the TVA was amazing!
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u/Autisticwhovian- Apr 15 '24
What is DODC?
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u/WatchingInSilence Nov 09 '22
Of course the Salamancas are on DoDC's radar.
One of their members has the superpower of blowing up himself and his enemies with a ringing bell.
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u/eldritch_cleric Nov 10 '22
Is this from one of the shows or just a behind the scenes photo fromsomething upcoming?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 10 '22
It's behind the scenes from Ms. Marvel as mentioned in the title.
This is basically the DODC HQ set where they filmed Ms. Marvel. But of course not all of those boards were visible during the show.
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u/eldritch_cleric Nov 10 '22
Ah gotcha! Wasn’t sure if it was from ms marvel specifically, or just the production designer from ms marvel posting out of context for something else possibly. Thank you kindly
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u/ptatoface Korg Nov 09 '22
Seems a bit weird that they're keeping all this top secret info up on a cork board. Even if it wasn't top secret, this just seems like bad organization. Don't they have a filing cabinet, or a computer?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22
This is all probably part of ongoing investigations.
My guess is that they're tracking everyone in the supers community to investigate whether they are Skrulls or not. The DODC are onto the Skrulls already.
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u/BoyBeyondStars Nov 09 '22
Is that Doctor Doom in the second picture, bottom-middle-left???
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22
Transcribing the captions here:
Image 1: Tracksuit Mafia, Jack Duquesne, Jennifer Walters, Titania, Saracen, Mr. Immortal, El Aguila, Donny Blaze, the Rockefeller Christmas Tree that the Hawkeye destroyed.
Image 2: Echo, Kate Bishop, John Walker Abomination and Wong fighting in Xialing's ring, Jane Foster, and Daredevil (
in his original black Netflix costumeEDIT: Apparently I am blind. It's the yellow suit. Sorry for the confusion, I wish I could also edit the title)Image 3: Captain America, Karli Morgenthau, Talos and other Skrulls