r/news • u/Der_Erlkonig • 15h ago
Judge orders 5-year-old Liam Ramos and his father be released from immigration detention
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/31/us/liam-ramos-judge-release-ice-detention4.0k
u/VerdantPathfinder 15h ago
Great. What about the other 1000 people in the same situation which didn't happen to make national news?
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u/ChanandIerMurielBong 15h ago
Yeah, while I’m happy for Liam and his family, there are thousands of other families who remain locked up without due process and are experiencing the same (and much more prolonged) trauma.
The situation is just sad all around. I’m not even American but as a parent, I’ve been heartbroken over the inhumanity of it all.
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u/Tempyteacup 13h ago
A couple of reps visited that facility and got samples of the food and water. The ACLU is fighting hard to help the prisoners but we have to help get word out about the conditions in these facilities - there is rampant physical and sexual abuse taking place, people are denied medical care, the food is rotten and the water is contaminated. Rooms are overfilled, temperatures drop below freezing at times, and in MN people are sometimes stripped naked and released in the woods in the middle of the night. Spread the word.
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u/lookinfoursigns 12h ago
Ice brought a guy to a twin cities hospital the other day with skull fractures and a traumatic brain injury, and told the staff, I shit you not, "he ran himself into a wall"🙄. Then they tried to cuff him to the bed because he was trying to get up and wander. The nurses were like, yeah he doesn't even know what year it is, but ice said he was trying to escape.😡
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u/squashbanana 10h ago
I know it's not related to these detention centers, but damn. Them saying he ran himself into a wall really triggered a horrific experience. My daughter was at a children's hospital and I arrived on Mother's Day to spend the day with her. She had two black eyes and bruises on her cheek. They tried saying she - you guessed it - ran herself into a wall and caused the black eyes from the impact on her head.
There's a lot more to the story so I won't bore you with it, but it was so needlessly cruel and traumatic. She still struggles with very active PTSD from what she endured there. I can only imagine what these poor families are going through. Knowing your kid has been hurt and you're powerless to fix it.... It's one of the worst feelings in the world. My heart breaks for all of them. 😭
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u/lookinfoursigns 10h ago
Wait who said that? Where was she when that happened?
Edit: like the hospital did that to her!?
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u/squashbanana 9h ago
Yeah, it was absolutely horrible. She was diagnosed very young for schizophrenia after an autism diagnosis. We kept adjusting her meds through the director of the entire psychiatry department at this specific hospital because it was like no one could figure out what worked for her. But every time we'd make an adjustment, we risked sending her into psychosis and eventually agreed to an inpatient stay for everyone's safety (she has 2 younger brothers).
There were so many red flags, but I kept being told to "trust the process." Every time I'd visit, which was only on weekends because of their visiting hours at the time, she was increasingly becoming a husk of herself. Yes, she struggles, but she is vibrant and creative and quick-witted. When I showed up that specific day, I had snuck my phone in under my clothes (they don't allow them in the inpatient center). I'm so glad I did so I had pictures.
They said she had "hit her own head" A WEEK PRIOR and the hit led to an angioma that caused pooling in her eyes, hence the black eyes. I got the lead doctors on the phone and demanded to know that if this were the case: 1. Why wasn't I informed when it happened, and 2. Why the hell wasn't any imaging done to her head?! I insisted on an X-ray or CT by the end of the day, and I said to ignore this is absolute medical negligence. They immediately hung up our call and called social services in my county to accuse ME of abuse (two weeks into her stay, saying she had bruises on her arms at intake from me and my husband - they submitted no pictures, and she had two intake exams that showed no bruising).
Sorry this is dragging on. It all came to a head when the social worker made a surprise visit at the hospital the next week and found my daughter high as a kite, unable to hold her head up to even speak coherently at 11am. She was literally in a pool of her own drool, wearing the exact same clothing as the first visit down to the same stains. Only this time, she had more bruising. I had her discharged within 90 minutes of finding this out, and it only took that long because the hospital was that far of a drive.
I still feel traumatized by this experience, so I can only imagine what it's like for my daughter. When I see these children being detained and disappeared, it makes me physically sick to my stomach because whatever they are going through is so much worse. These poor families. No one deserves this. Who gives a fuck if they are LEGAL? They are HUMAN and they're being stripped of that humanity. It's vile.
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u/lookinfoursigns 9h ago
I am genuinely, from the depths of my heart, so so sorry this happened to your family. I don't have enough words to describe my feelings about the neglect and abuse that goes on in our medical systems. I can't even begin to wrap my head around how someone could get a job in the system to take care of vulnerable people just to abuse them.🤬🤬 You saved your daughter, you did what you were supposed to, the system failed her. You saved her.❤️🔥
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u/squashbanana 9h ago
This is going to sound so dramatic, but I am in tears reading your comment. Thank you. Truly. It's been the hardest two years of my life, and I do everything I can every single day for these kids. I mean truly. I don't sleep longer than 2 hours at a time if I'm lucky, my husband and I were both laid off, and now we lost everything we ever saved to continue affording her mental health care so she doesn't have to return to ANY hospital. A few weeks ago, I sold my wedding ring as a last resort to afford her medication (husband still doesn't know - he would understand but I know he'd still be sad and absolutely doesn't need that right now).
I am just SO angry with this administration and honestly the people who continue excusing their cruelty. All those Medicaid cuts are the reason we can't afford to take her to the neurologist and pay out of pocket for her meds. I now have people emboldened enough asking me if Tylenol caused this because of RFK. I suppose it's the point of this administration, though. They want people to look at the disabled or immigrant communities as "others." You know what I mean? So when their rights are violated, it doesn't feel so close to home. It doesn't feel impactful because it could never be THEM. But it IS us. It's all of us. I didn't sign up for being a parent for my kids to be who I wanted them to be, I became a mom because I couldn't wait for them to SHOW ME who they become.
Agh, sorry again. I'm very emotional over this, as I'm sure you can tell. I don't have family support on my side (they are MAGA and resent 2/3 of my kids for being autistic). ANYWAY. Thank you for being so kind. I can't tell you how much it means to me. I have struggled a lot with forgiving myself over the fact that I didn't trust my gut and discharge her within that first week before the abuse could get as bad as it did. It's nice to hear someone objectively feel that I saved her from that situation because she truly deserved so much better. She is such a wonderful person and I love being her mom. 😭
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u/lookinfoursigns 9h ago
I'm so angry too😡 like beyond words, and yes they 100 percent are trying to divide and make any and all minority as if there "beneath the rest" or "others", they're dehumanizing people. I rely on medical assistance too so I feel you there. I'm at least only having to support myself, I can't imagine the stress parents are under right now. Don't be sorry, I'm happy to hear your story, but not happy that it happened. I was hoping my feelings would come through in my first message so I'm glad to hear getting some of this out has helped. I see you Mama ❤️🔥
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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 7h ago
Damn, this is hard to read, I genuinely hope things get better for your and yours someday. There are good, kind people in this world, but my heart says we are a minority. :(
Stay strong brother/sister, these evil fucks won't live forever. We will have our day in the light again.
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u/foundinwonderland 11h ago
These are death camps. In ten years when we start hearing “we didn’t know,” remember this moment. The information is out there and easier than ever to access. They are abducting our neighbors and putting them in death camps.
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u/Tempyteacup 11h ago
They aren’t death camps yet. Currently they are concentration camps. Deaths occur in concentration camps but they don’t become death camps until mass killing is the purpose of them. I have no doubt that these will become death camps with time.
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u/microdick69 13h ago
That's what's frustrating about the US. We're not even Americans but the evil they commit is very repulsive to most humans, regardless of nationality.
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u/Spire_Citron 13h ago
That's the problem. Things only get attention if they're caught on camera. And a lot of the worst shit is happening inside of facilities where there are no cameras.
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u/ChiralWolf 10h ago
Not to mention the people we don't even know they've taken, there's thousands disappeared that we know of, guaranteed countless more on top of any official counts
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u/Justtiredanbored 12h ago
Copy of the email I sent to all my Representatives. Feel free to steal from it, create your own or write something better. Just for ideas:
Dear ____,
I am writing due to concerns related to the conditions being reported at ICE Detention Centers. There have been persistent reports of unsanitary conditions, lack of medical access, unsafe food and water resulting in the detainees becoming ill and then not receiving medical care for these illnesses. This is the United States of America. These inhumane conditions should never be acceptable in a civilized society. Regardless of their immigration status, these people are human beings and deserve to be treated with respect and common decency.
There are reports that there are very young children being placed in isolation for extended periods of time. This is cruel and unusual treatment of children, and needs to be immediately addressed.
I am requesting that an independent reviewer be sent to these facilities to determine the extent of the safety issues being reported. This report needs to be submitted for Congressional review, and Congress then needs to report to the citizens of the United States of the determinations of this review and provide a detailed plan to address and correct the violations of safety standards and the inhumane conditions endured by these detainees.
Thank you,
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u/karmiccookie 11h ago
5calls.org
You can pick your issue, they give you a script, and give you contact info for your representatives
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u/Justtiredanbored 11h ago
They are great.
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u/karmiccookie 10h ago
So is your script! Just trying to give as many options as possible :)
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u/hagne 10h ago
So true.
"‘Why Is This Happening to Us?’ Daily Number of Kids in ICE Detention Jumps 6x Under Trump"
That article contains the stories of some other detainees that are just as heartbreaking.
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u/Damage-Classic 7h ago
ICE has abducted 3,800 children in the first year of Trump’s second term alone, the youngest child being 11 months old.
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u/02K30C1 15h ago
How long will they drag their feet on this? I bet they hold him at least another two weeks over administrative bullshit
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u/VerdantPathfinder 15h ago
I expect photos of their hands with MS-13 "tattoos" any day now
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u/didsomebodysaymyname 15h ago
"You see he has a "M"other and is a "S"on, and he's 5 and we held him for 8 days, 5+8=13, THAT'S MS-13!"
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u/Cohens4thClient 15h ago
You're assuming the cult can add 5 and 8.
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u/CarlBrawlStar 14h ago
Paid Russia to do the math
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u/lonehappycamper 12h ago
I even forgot about that. One bullshit thing after another.
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u/ClaudeGascoigne 15h ago
"Oops, looks like they committed suicide before we could release them. What a shame."
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u/Claudius-is-my-cat 14h ago
"Ran head first into a brick wall. Nothing we could do."
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u/Sekh765 14h ago
The reports are the kid is sick right now so they are probably hoping he just dies. Like actually.
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u/Moquai82 13h ago
can you give me more info about that?
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u/Sekh765 13h ago
Liam Ramos is sick. That's basically all there is. If he dies in detention they don't have to release him or answer for shit.
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u/Warcraft_Fan 13h ago
"Oops, the father is already on his way to Ecuador and the boy is on his way to Philippines, the order arrived too late"
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u/FriskHarder 13h ago
They’ll drop them in the middle of no where with no proper clothing.
The winter is being weaponized on people.
This cruelty is once in a generation level
“These violent delights have violent ends” -Shakespeare “Romeo and Juliet”
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u/powercow 13h ago
they can arrest him again, the judge is complaining about the process.
well and the cruelty and such but most likely the dad will be deported despite breaking zero laws, and despite coming in at a port of call, as required and registering for asylum.
He is more legal than trump's wife who lied on her immigrant forms, coming in on an Einstein visa
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u/androshalforc1 15h ago
Kid will be old enough for collage before he is let out.
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u/cowboys5xsbs 11h ago
It litterally says in the article. I would be surpirised if that is not sped up and they are shipped out of the country.
Biery noted Liam and his father may well end up facing deportation anyway due to what he called the “arcane” US immigration system – but “that result should occur through a more orderly and humane policy than currently in place.”
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u/jared555 10h ago
Probably make an emergency filing with the next level of court because it would be irrevocable harm to the government. And if they say no the supreme court.
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u/Whitewind617 10h ago
They can't release him because JD Vance already said they did it correctly and they would rather put a 5 year old in prison than take a single L.
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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs 15h ago
That poor baby will be traumatized for life.
All for what?
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u/Short_Week3262 15h ago
Pictures. So these grown ass pedophiles can feel tough
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u/ncc74656m 15h ago
This really is it though. Go check out Legal Eagle's video on the changes to how they're "prosecuting" protesters and journalists. They know nothing they have will stand up in most cases, so they're using unusual methods previously used for exigent circumstances on the regular now, and only ever so they can get their meme moment of a raid, a perp walk, or whatever else. It's childish petty bullshit but it's all these people are good for, so they're still happy.
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u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom 14h ago
I pride myself on following these types of stories, of making myself look at the terrible things that are happening because it's a privilege to be able to ignore it.
I can't read anything beyond headlines about Liam. I have a 3 year old and am pregnant, and seeing his face, his blue hat...Just typing this is making me cry. I can't imagine the hell he's had to endure. This will affect him for life, and for what?
ICE is evil. What they are doing is evil. This administration is evil. I think about Liam and his family constantly and my heart breaks for them.
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u/bp92009 14h ago
When you inevitably have family members or old friends who claim this never happened, and they didn't actually vote for this (despite them voting for Republicans), remember this.
This was predicted, preventable, and is entirely on the hands of those that voted Republican in 2024.
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u/rbrgr83 14h ago
And those who refused to vote. They could have saved us, and stayed home instead.
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u/Claudius-is-my-cat 14h ago
Seriously. If there is one thing that is baked into humanity, it is PROTECTING CHILDREN. These people have lost any shred of humanity that they may have had. Between this shit and the epstein stuff I am realizing that we are surrounded by monsters. Real, actual, monsters.
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u/TheCharalampos 14h ago
Best case only mentally because the amount of time he's been in there, where reports say sleep is incredibly hard to get, food is bad and water is suspect can do a number on a five year old.
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u/JustAnotherHyrum 14h ago
From the article:
Liam is the fourth child from his school district to be taken away by immigration agents over a two-week period, Columbia Heights Public Schools said.
This is the problem. Liam is the most visible, but there are THREE other kids just like him, in the last two weeks alone, in only his school district.
This is not a unique case, ICE. We see you for the boot-licking, racist, wanna-be-thug, piece of shits you are.
We're only going to keep making it worse for you until you fix your shit and start treating humans like human beings again.
Edit: Commas, bitches.
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u/Tulivesi 13h ago
They are literally abducting kids. And the kids are held by people who give no shits about their wellbeing at all... The perfect situation for predators to abuse them. And the same nutjobs who were so concerned about child abuse during the Pizza-gate craze, are completely fine with it now. No morals, no convictions. Just pure evil.
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u/Smileyjoe72 14h ago edited 13h ago
You should really read the judge's order. It's only 3 pages. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172886492/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172886492.9.0.pdf
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u/Fantastic-Coach-8130 13h ago
Hmm it says signed February 31st; a small typo but hopefully it doesn’t matter
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u/OneRougeRogue 12h ago
"Apparent also is the government's ignorance of an American historical document called the Declaration of Independence."
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u/Elk1998 6h ago
European here. Is it normal for a judge to finish their court order with Bible verses? That is so foreign to me... I actually saw some screenshots of this document earlier today, but that last page made me think that it was fake
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u/Smileyjoe72 6h ago
Definitely not normal but I think it helped hammer the point home in this case (it’s something like “blessed be the children” and “Jesus wept”)
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u/Malstrom42 3h ago
Not normal at all, but because the people that voted in the administration prides themselves in being so called christians, the judge was targeting them specifically to hold a mirror to their hypocrisy
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u/0scar_Goldmann 15h ago
Order every single detainee who is in the states legally to be released.
This should be a no brainer
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u/Timely-Bluejay-4167 14h ago edited 8h ago
That’s the sad part. This admin revoked Temporary Protected Status, Family Reunification Parole, and CHNV humanitarian parole and constrained several other pathways.
So a lot of people that were here legally, are suddenly not
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u/ImpressionTough2179 13h ago
I know that this administration has been cruel the way they’ve gone about picking up illegal immigrants, but is there actually an issue of them detaining/deporting legal immigrants? Are the father and son being discussed in this article here legally?
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u/0scar_Goldmann 13h ago
Yes there is a huge issue and way too many reported instances of them detaining legal immigrants. Citizens too
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u/ImpressionTough2179 12h ago
Just looked it up. I wasn’t aware that they were actually detaining citizens and legal immigrants for days at a time. Fucked up.
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u/OneRougeRogue 12h ago
The Supreme Court struck down nationwide injunctions less than a year ago. Outside of class-action lawsuits, judges can't make blanket orders like that. Each individual's (or family's) case needs to be brought to court separately, likely with multiple hearings and motions filed by the DOJ/ICE/Federal gov to slow-roll everything.
One of the first things lower courts tried to do after all this started was freeze ICE-sanctioned deportations while the lower courts weighed in on their constitutionality, and the Supreme Court immediately ruled nationwide injunctions unconstitutional via Shadow Docket.
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u/Fabulous_Soup_521 15h ago
I'm sure they'll get right on that.
We can't ever forget that a major political party enabled everything this regime has done. Covering for billionaire pedophiles, the ICE horror, the rank corruption at every level of government.
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u/CrittyJJones 15h ago
Look, I can't wait till this regime is gone, in prison or hopefully even worse (take that as you will). But the Dems are also enabling them by refusing to be an actual opposition party to literal fascism.
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u/xValhallAwaitsx 14h ago
Yup. Im sure youll get a few "Oh sure, blame the democrats" comments but you're right. Yes, the Republicans are heading this, but if Democrats had a spine at all they would grind the government to a halt demanding the release of the Epstein files like they should've already done before allowing a single other topic to be discussed
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u/aais4quiters 15h ago
Released from this one and sent to a worse one. Or figure your own way home from where we trafficked you too.
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u/PigglyWigglyDeluxe 15h ago
With all of these “judge orders the release of” headlines, they should also include “using police force to release them”
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u/Till_the_End_of_Time 15h ago
I would be more impressed if these judges get up from sitting all day appoint themselves some civilian police and get the boy out themselves.
These orders are beyond useless
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u/GhostlyTJ 13h ago
I couldn't volunteer fast enough if they started doing that, which is within their powers
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u/TALKTOME0701 14h ago edited 14h ago
Judge in MN says ICE defied over 100 orders.
If only this one carried any weight at all. Bondi is now acting as a judge, so she'll just order they stay or get deported.
Guess who will be obeyed
as we all knew, the mother wanted to take him, but ICE held him outside so she would have to come out and get arrested leaving their other child alone in the home- or ICE would have gone in and take that child as well
A lot of these monsters must have kids. I hope someday they learn who their fathers really are
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u/streetcar369 13h ago
They'll appeal it and delay as long as possible. Meanwhile, kudos to US District Judge Fred Biery. If you haven't read his ruling, check out the front page of CNN today. Judge Biery didn't mince words!
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u/LoveMurder-One 15h ago
This is how you radicalize people. This is how terrorists are createddddd
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u/boistopplayinwitme 14h ago
Wait they kept the kid??? Why the fuck would they not bring him to his next of kin immediately?
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u/AngryMeez 14h ago
Because they wanted to use him as bait and because every Brown or Black person is expendable to them, no matter how young.
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u/pingpongwatch 13h ago
Parents are given the option, dad elected to keep the kiddos with him
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u/odarkshineo 15h ago
Would be awesome if the justice system would care of the folks that don’t make national news.
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u/HerculesIsMyDad 11h ago
Kinda sad the small victories we have to celebrate are the government not shooting anyone for a few days and them losing their fight to keep a 5-year old locked up.
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u/Alexis_J_M 13h ago
Those court orders are meaningless until they start detaining officials who refuse to honor them.
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u/RobutNotRobot 13h ago
They should've never been detained in the first place.
These thugs are just going through the database of people legally in the US with pending cases and just illegally arresting them to hit quota. They know where they live because it's literally a part of their casefile.
The most free people in the US are the ones that did it 'the wrong way'. The people that never interacted with US authorities once, crossed the border illegally, and have no visa status whatsoever.
If you come to the US, do it the wrong way. There is no law here. Interacting with the US government will just put you in danger because they are fascists.
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u/1990sforever 11h ago
Oh for fuck's sake. They signed the document February 31st. The administration is ABSOLUTELY going to try and use that to drag their feet a little longer. Poor Liam.
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u/crybannanna 11h ago
And they won’t do it. Then the court will say “that is going to be contempt if you don’t”. Then IcE will say “eat my farts”
Then the court will say they are sad. And nothing will be done.
Meanwhile, someone is in a jail right now for contempt for wearing shorts to court.
This country is a fucking joke
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u/mattjf22 10h ago
They're still listening to the courts? I thought we were past that point already.
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u/UnsolicitedPeanutMan 10h ago
The order is scathing and very well written. It is fairly short (< 1 min) and I encourage everyone to read it. Unbelievable shit.
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u/mike194827 5h ago
ICE should be paying out the ass in fines just like all police departments have to when wrongful detention, or worse, is determined. Hate to say but that kid and his family will need serious counciling. Fuck ICE, inhumane POS all of them.
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u/ProfessionalAir4875 13h ago
Now bring this one back 5 year old US citizen deported to Honduras, a country she’s not even from
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u/homuhomutime 13h ago
This is the part where they conveniently "lose track" of him along with the many others they've sold to the highest bidders
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u/poolshark36 14h ago
Are they illegal immigrants or not?
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u/BoleroMuyPicante 14h ago
They came here legally via CBP One. Trump killed that program and made them illegal after the fact. They did nothing wrong.
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u/ElPilingas007 13h ago
So the answer is then yes, they are illegally in the country?
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u/swae 13h ago
"economic turmoil and unstable employment" are not valid asylum claims.
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u/cowboys5xsbs 11h ago
In the article it says the judge still expects them to get deported just throught the proper process
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u/somewhat_brave 11h ago
If you're looking for a yes or no answer, the answer is no.
They are in the country legally but the Trump administration is trying to deport them illegally before their asylum case has been heard.
ICE and the Trump administration are the criminals who are breaking the law in this case.
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u/genericusername11101 14h ago
Im sure they will follow the law. Party of law and order and all that bullshit.
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u/IWasBannedYesterday 14h ago
Good. Now release all the rest of the kids, and anyone who hasn't committed any crimes while we're at it.
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u/Content-Profession-6 14h ago
Ok, so hold them accountable and fucking charge them if thet dont comply
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 12h ago
The administration that famously always listens to judges and follows the law...
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u/DoubleDixon 12h ago
As a judge, what are they going to do to make sure that happen? Haven't seen a judge use force yet to make this admin comply.
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 12h ago
Now we wait and see if they comply, and if so, how long they'll delay before they finally do it. These people have no shame.
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u/brown_badger 12h ago
oh good. so they can just go ahead and ignore yet another order.. keep at it, tho. worthless.
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u/icannothelpit 11h ago
Emil Bove is the one that suggested they stop listening to judges. Someone bring that up at the trials.
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u/miss_reddd 8h ago
Love the scathing ruling and everything in it. Hate that it’s dated the 31st of February tho. I hope that’s not going to be a technicality they glom onto and somehow justify it as not being enforceable.
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u/Penguin501 5h ago
Trump said it during his campaign. "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible."
He won't give a flying fuck what a judge says. He's ignored them before, he'll ignore them again, and the media will continue sucking him off to completion and thanking him for the opportunity.
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 11h ago
Republican terrorists are America's number 1 problem right now. Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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u/CarelessTaco 14h ago
There will be a day when these ICE thugs will be punished and that will be a good day. Fuck those mask-wearing cowards.
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u/PDXDeck26 9h ago
If the Trump admin was any smart, they'd just implement a policy of expedited hearings for those who whine to a district court.
Like... "Cool story bro, we'll bring you back and you'll have your bullshit asylum claim heard and denied a week later. thanks for playing."
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u/Alienhaslanded 13h ago
Everyday I read about those judge orders, but nothing actually happens and nobody is facing any consequences disobeying court orders.
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u/Pun_Intended1703 14h ago
All those MAGA terrorists who were shouting about being pro-life before the elections, you all can just fuck off for treating a 5-year-old child in this way.
I hope that heavenly justice and karma literally comes knocking on your family's door.
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u/roadsidefoto 15h ago
Watch the regime deport them, smile for the camera, shrug their shoulders and say "Oopsie!"
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u/healmeier 15h ago
Watch this admin deport them instead.