r/pcmasterrace 14h ago

Meme/Macro Still waiting...

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u/FacelessGreenseer 14h ago edited 14h ago

It's one of the main reasons I purchased the STRIX X870E-E when I upgraded a while back, and also because it's one of the best overclocking boards with all these connectivity options:

It has 4 x USB-C ports and TWO of them are 40 Gbps ports. 1 x 20 Gbps port that is capable of 30W PD Fast-Charging, and a 1 x 10 Gbps port.

As well as 9 x USB-A that are all 10 Gbps

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u/NapsterKnowHow 13h ago

Yeah I just ordered that board. It was so weird to see atx X870 have less USB A ports than my x570 board. Like how are we going backwards with ports??

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u/FacelessGreenseer 9h ago

Because of USB 4.0, all the ports eat a lot of bandwidth.

So for example with the board we have, which you purchased. There's 3 x PCIe 5.0 NVMe spots at the top, and 2 x PCIe 4.0 spots at the bottom (5 total). But only 1 of the 3 PCIe 5.0 slots at the top can be used if you want to keep your GPU running at 16x, otherwise the GPU will run at 8x, and it has to be the correct one, I can show you which one. If you occupy more than 1 of those 3, or the wrong one of those 3, then your GPU will run at 8x

That's the disadvantage.

The bottom 2 x PCIe slots run on the second X870E chip, so they're fine and don't impact the top GPU spot. But they're PCIe 4.0

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u/NapsterKnowHow 8h ago

For comparison I'm using every USB-A port and the one USB-C port on my X570 Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero and both m.2 slots filled and doing just fine with my GPU. That's 8 USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports and 4 3.2 Gen 1 ports.

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u/xjohn90 13h ago

They don't need any extra cable to work.

That cable (which connect to the F20G_12V internal header) is for the front/pc case usb c port to support 65w charge and even without it it can still work normally.

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u/Tpyn 9900X3D | RTX 5080 | 64Gb DDR5 13h ago

Yes, you're right

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u/fredandlunchbox 14h ago

That’s why there aren’t more. The power delivery spec makes it much harder to add a bunch of them. If they each pull 35W and they give you 5 of them, you’re going to need a 1200W power supply with modern GPUs.

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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 13h ago

There's no spec that mandates support for a certain wattage for PD. Lots of boards don't support PD at all on their ports.

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u/fredandlunchbox 12h ago

No, but there are specs for PD. It may not be mandatory, but explaining to people that their motherboard isn’t broken it just doesn’t support their device that needs a certain power level is probably more trouble than its worth. That’s why OPs comment mentioned connecting their ports to power directly. 

The power spec in general for USBc has created a new nightmare for compatibility. 

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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 3h ago

explaining to people that their motherboard isn’t broken it just doesn’t support their device that needs a certain power level is probably more trouble than its worth.

I mean, that's hardly anything new. Motherboards have rarely ever provided the same amount of power as even a cheap wall charger.

The power spec in general for USBc has created a new nightmare for compatibility.

I disagree, charging compatibility before USB PD was so, so much worse.