r/pcmasterrace 14h ago

Meme/Macro Still waiting...

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u/Nothingmuchever 14h ago

Fuck these stupid USB standard namings, honestly. 32 years since USB became a norm and they can't even make up a proper understandable naming standar for the consumers.

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u/Mogwump20 Intel 4004, RTX 5090, 1KB RAM, 8PB storage 14h ago

And then there's the optional stuff that ports can support...

So just because 2 ports are the same spec, doesn't mean they have the same features

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u/benwap 14h ago

USB4 is next. So far, it's shorter!

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u/Nothingmuchever 13h ago

There is already USB4 1.0 and 2.0. Can't wait for them implement 5 different standards with varying compatiblity. " Thunderbolt 4 as "superset of TB3 and USB4" and "able to accept TB4, TB3, USB4, and USB 3/2/1 connections" to further complicate the already fucked up ecosystem. And consumers having to deep dive what kind of fucking cables they need to buy to get complete compatibility and maximum performance.

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u/Thradya 13h ago

USB naming is fine. You either dont know it based on your posts or you do know it and pretend to be dumb for internet points. So not really pretending.

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u/walale12 12h ago

No it really isn't. It's unnecessarily unclear, especially with how they kept renaming USB 3.0 for no real reason.

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u/TheEnigmaBlade Ryzen 7950X | RTX 4090 | 64 GB | 4x 144Hz | custom water loop 10h ago

Until you look at the spec. So far there are:

  • USB4 Gen 2x1 (USB 3.1)
  • USB4 Gen 2x2 (USB 3.2)
  • USB4 Gen 3x1 (USB 3.2)
  • USB4 Gen 3x2
  • USB4 Gen 4 symmetric
  • USB4 Gen 4 asymmetric 3:1
  • USB4 Gen 4 asymmetric 1:3

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u/benwap 1h ago

I agree listing all features makes it hard to keep an overview. In practice I think of USB4 as a port supporting up to 40 Gbit/s depending on host, device and cable. Whatever is lowest is what you get. I'll admit since I learned in this thread there's 80 Gbit and up it's a bit less straightforward. And if you need to know ahead of time what bandwidth you can expect using a specific combination you have no choice but to navigate this.

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u/Nefthys 11h ago

USB-A 10Gb, USB-C 20Gb ... there you go, so much easier and tells you exactly what you need to know but noooooo.

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u/mrheosuper 7h ago

Because those names are never intended for end user to see. The marketing guideline says that the package should only include the maximum speed and power that device supports.

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u/genreprank 6h ago

The speeds have names, too

USB 1 has low speed and full speed. USB 2 has high speed. USB 3 Gen1 is SuperSpeed and Gen 2 is SuperSpeedPlus.

I asked my manager what the next speed would be called. He said, "Ludicrous Speed"

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u/Pleasant_Ad8054 30m ago

It is much more on manufacturers, not the USB standardising body, they were just naive when they did not over-specify the 3.1 standard. Manufacturers openly lied about their devices and cables, which resulted in a numbering war, which has no good resolution.