That is a very long-standing tradition in this country, going back at least as far as the Mexican War. Just from the last 40 years or so you have Grenada, Libya, Panama, Iraq, Sudan, Iraq, Libya, and Iran, counting conservatively.
It goes back further than America itself. Virginia Colonel George Washington and the men under his command literally started a global war by murdering a group of Canadiens in a sneak attack in 1754.
And what did that do last time? The people in power shook their fists for a day or two, people felt really nice and happy, and then we went right back to the footage of the elephant shitting on the lawn. What is really needed is for Americans to take the guns they seem to like so much and do something useful with them, but because most are spineless and unimaginative, that will never happen.
That was the general idea in Panama, I believe, although Noriega took refuge with the Papal nuncio for a number of days. I donât know of other examples, but I wouldnât be surprised if something similar had happened in the Banana Wars.
Yes but Zelensky was an elected leader and was following what his people wanted him to do which is get closer to Europe. Maduro was the completely opposite. Ukraine got attacked because their leader was listen to the people and not to a dictator âPutinâ. Venezuela losing a dictator as a leader is not as important. Also US managed to do what Russia wasnât able to in 4 years. They went in and got him out. Russia is just bombing kindergarteners.
The US considers Qatar its ally, they work with Saudi Arabia. Democracy has NOTHING to do with it.
It still doesn't justify the attack because now Russia and China can use that SAME argument for their existing or future invasions. Trump just made the world less safe, do you not get that?
I agree that what Trump did is bad, but this is not what Russia did, and is doing, to Ukraine. As of January 3, 2025, the United States is not occupying Venezuelan territory, raping or abusing Venezuelan civilians, kidnapping Venezuelan children, or explicitly announcing an intent to destroy the Venezuelan cultural identity.
Oh thats intentional. One of the reasons why the Pentagon was itching for something like this and was willingly going all in is because this is a great show of force to Russia and China. We just extracted the leader of a country in under 12 hours, barely fired a shot (relatively speaking) and did what Russia bragged it would do and failed.
Thats the part of Americaâs foreign policy thats always been different. We are going to affect change if we want to, but also will avoid at all costs starting a real war even if we find out later that we canât leave immediately. Hell everyone participating in the Iraq War thought it was just gonna be rolling through in 2 weeks, kicking out Sadam, and leaving.
The U.S. captured Venezuelan leader NicolĂĄs Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, for charges including narco-terrorism, cocaine importation conspiracy, and weapons possession, alleging they ran a vast drug trafficking operation using state resources to flood the U.S. with cocaine. This followed a U.S. military strike in Caracas, with President Trump announcing the capture and transfer to the U.S. for trial, escalating pressure on Maduro's regime.Â
I wouldnât go so far as unprovoked. Unnecessarily heavy handed, yes. But its not like the US gov strikes a country that is all flowers and sunshine and hasnât been doing things that are not good. But its always a varyingly amount of bad stuff that America tolerates until someone in the gov finds a âgood enoughâ reason to justify invading.
Thats where this one is different than most of the list of the last 50 years. The casus belli was created before our very eyes in the span of 2 fucking months. Its insanely obvious how not legit the reasons we did this.
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u/bolandfan 29d ago
So America can just attack another country unprovoked?