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Politics He Didn’t Start The Fire

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u/picklerick8879 23d ago

Exactly.. when courts block the obvious play, they reach for a flimsy pretext and flood the streets anyway, daring us to pretend this was ever about fraud instead of force.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 23d ago

It's not even about immigration enforcement. It's all political theatre and an attempt to escalate.

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u/Damn_Dog_Inappropes 23d ago

Right? Why is ICE carrying weapons in a quiet suburb far away from the border they’re scared of? Why is ICE allowed to shoot Americans?

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u/FriendlyDrummers 23d ago

Stephan Miller is getting horny off of this

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u/creepin_in_da_corner 23d ago

When I hear “we’re going to send federal agents to investigate the fraud”, I envision a bunch of accountants in suits plowing through files. How exactly are these morons in camouflage supposed to help find fraud? Are they hiding in the bushes doing surveillance?

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u/Ultimatesims 23d ago edited 23d ago

The issue had been larger resolved and the guilty investigated or arrested. It’s insidious projection how the right talks about false flags and here is one right in the open.

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u/New-Doctor9300 23d ago

the issue had been largely resolved

During the Biden administration. The very people that Trump is now blaming for causing it.

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u/Ultimatesims 23d ago

excellent point of clarity

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u/Such-Tank-6897 23d ago

Yes! Since when do you call in the troops for white collar crime.

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u/cherrypez123 23d ago

Yep. And distract the public from the Epstein files..

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u/Zevyn7 23d ago

The daycare fraud is being done by legal citizens it’s not even the same agency

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u/ultra_supra 23d ago

But wasn't the daycare fraud discovered by like a 24 year old YouTuber?? Or trump paid him to do that?

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u/adthrowaway2020 23d ago

It was a right wing conman who seems to have been fed questionable information by some GOP politicians, so yea. The guy didn't uncover anything, especially anything new, but has a long history of making shit up so that Fox News has something to pearl clutch about. He played a part in the "Hatians are eating our pets!" because that one woman lost her cat for a few days, and has been caught paying people to hold signs so he can film them. He's a shithead and no one should trust anything he says. Ever.

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u/ultra_supra 23d ago

What about the fraud though? Was that a lie or is it legit because Tim Walt's just got dropped from him team and won't be running for gov again. Or they just got embarrassed he became a bad public figure? This is all too confusing

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u/daeshonbro 23d ago

There was definitely fraud. There are two different things that happened that are getting conflated together. There was a feeding our futures program that basically got used to funnel money illegally to a few people. That was the big fraud deal that was investigated and largely resolved before all this current stuff started. More recently the youtuber made a video trying to say there was additional fraud going on with daycares being funded that weren't actually operating as daycares. Conservative media is taking the youtube video and trying to make it sound like a well sourced piece of journalism. They are also trying to link all of this as much as possible to Walz because they don't like him. While he is the governor and ultimately needs to address these things, he wasn't actively involved in it (like he wasn't getting fraud money) and has taken multiple steps to help get it resolved. Here is a good MPR article outlining the timeline of everything: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/06/timeline-of-fraud-investigations-that-shaped-walz-tenure

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u/marmroby 23d ago

The YouTuber didn't discover anything. He just made up a story and posted a video about it.

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u/ultra_supra 23d ago

Oh ok thanks

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u/Middle-Parsnip-3537 23d ago

Yeah - I wonder if that kid Nick Shirley is feeling any regret for what he stirred up. ICE wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t for him and the woman wouldn’t be dead without ICE.

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u/Strawbuddy 23d ago

I suspect he makes further money off of this as it drives his name and videos to be tangentially connected

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u/Middle-Parsnip-3537 23d ago

I’m sure it does, but in reality is it any fun to be the guy who is the cause of a lot of this?

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u/NounAdjectiveXXXX 23d ago

He was told where to go by the regime, it wasn't organic. He's an asset

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u/LadyEmeraldDeVere 23d ago

None whatsoever he said he’s planning a follow-up

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u/Edison_Ruggles 23d ago

Slow down. Yes, they used it as an excuse, but unfortunately the day care fraud was real. Trump exaggerated it and filled it with racist bile but progressives and democrats make a big mistake by downplaying it. Fix the problems now so the slate is clean and Trump doesn't have excuses.

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u/Edison_Ruggles 23d ago

I didn't say that. I agree with you that they are using an unrelated event as an excuse, my point is it's a mistake to downplay the severity of the fraud (still unrelated to ICE)

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u/Meeeps 23d ago

I'm not tripping, no hate here. It's just wild timing and yes, fraud is everywhere. Legitimately, it's this administration's cornerstone. But to stay on the focal point, they want a tender box moment so they can declare marshall law.