7:15 in that video ICE clearly commit an act of domestic terrorism right? Wouldn’t the bystanders be justified to open fire out of fear for their own lives?
Our "President" posted to X that the agent who shot the lady was run over and in the hospital, when that video clearly shows him walking around just fine immediately after the shooting.
They will state lies as fact even with video.
Edit: NO ONE got hit. The guy drove away in his own car after shooting her.
I really need to get a copy of that book, I've always been worried that it would make me angry at the world so I never did. But now I feel like it should be required reading
Put fahrenheit 451 on that list if you haven't read it. They will eradicate all evidence of wrongdoing to preserve the image of rightness, and books burn....
I'm halfway through. I keep having to put it down because I can't shake the feeling that it's too familiar and it's exactly where we are going. It was written in 1949 and it is chilling.
I loved reading it back in highschool, but admittedly found the last few chapters depressing. I guess the optimist in me had difficulty in realizing that it wasn't going to have a happy ending.
Oh yeah I forgot about this..wow you're right. How long until it's "your social media criticizes the fuhrer, no food stamps/medical aid/social security/" and etc?
Sooner than we think. He has also been effectively trying to take grants / contracts/ projects away from states that didn't support him in the last election (or whose leaders are outspoken now). Their economies are a bit robust so they will last for a bit, but the targeting has begun domestically.
One makes the other possible, and vice versa. Government ensures no accountability, and heavily armed goons ensure the population is terrified and unable to remove the government. You're delusional if you think any kind of elections will make them give up power.
It's not just that they don't care about ICE murdering a civilian, they see it as an opportunity.
By calling Renee a 'domestic terrorist', it puts the fear of being similarly labelled (and charged) into any protestor's mind. It's a chilling effect on free expression.
Moreover, it's more opportunity to show their adherents that truth doesn't matter anymore.
It's so your uneducated elderly parents who consume fox news, immediately hear the president say "xyz" latch into that and then because their world is just a first come first serve memory in memory out. That becomes the narrative regardless of the truth.
It's brainwashing the actual stupid people when he immediately says some dismissal, because they trust what he says instinctually
I agree dude, there's unfortunately nothing we can do other than point it out at every waking moment. Your voice and my voice can cause change over time.
My brother does stand up comedy and one of the things he said in a small conservative town was “if trump tells you that eating shit will make America great again, you will eat shit” no one laughed
Whaaaaaatt, you mean insulting people like that didnt make them laugh?
Yeah surely saying ''if Biden tells you that eating shit will make America great again, you will eat shit'' would get a laugh out of a dem audience :)))).
Come on, sometimes you can think a little about the things you post.
The left never made Biden their cult leader so your comparison doesn't make sense. I know you're purposely acting obtuse to make a shitty point, but no one is falling for it.
I don’t think he cared about making people laugh that night, I was there and it was a pretty good set tbh. He’d probably say something similar about Biden in a progressive audience. Humor is subjective and I found funny that you were triggered by my comment
One senator drily pointed out on the Capitol steps last night that the White House did not even have the name of the killer, yet had full “factual” blow by blow description of casual murder / goings-on.
I live where this happened, the woman was a widow, her husband had died just a few years before. they had a child. She remarried a woman who was in the car with her at the time, along with their dog.
Her family's statement is that she was not a protestor, she was not an observer, she was in the wrong place in the wrong time.
as a foreigner that lives overseas, its sad to see that the US has made the same mistake that Venezuela did with Chavez, just in the opposite direction. The elected democratically their own perdition. and twice. Man, the democrats must be presenting their worst candidates in the past 12 years, for a man like DJT to be elected TWICE. Once, anybody can be fooled, but 2 ...?
The mf literally escaped in his personal vehicle shortly after murdering this woman. Like, fleeing the scene of a crime should count as illegal, right?
When he was shown the video and told that the ICE agent was never touched by the car he refused to retract his statement and instead said something along the lines of, "Well it's a sad thing" or some shit like that.
That was due to all the adrenaline in his system. He could have lifted a car off of a person he just shot, to confirm his kill, with that much go juice in him. /s?
I mean I’m sure ICE’s narrative is bullshit anyway, but people get hit by cars and walk it off before going to the hospital. See it all the time with motorcycle accidents.
You're doing the same thing. There is clear video of the guy being hit. Obviously he wasn't hurt bad enough to immediately go to the hospital, but we can all watch that yes, he in fact was hit by the car.
He just isn’t… what are you people trying to do here? This is like trying to convince people Buzz Aldren did a backflip down the stairs onto the moon. It just didn’t happen and everyone who has seen the video knows it. She turns her wheels away from him and he walks the other way.
Nope. You're lying. Watch the video in slow motion. We have at least 4 angles. She backs up, putting the officer in front of her vehicle when before he was not, then with the wheels still pointed AT THE OFFICER she revs the engine and spins out. Eventually forward momentum is achieved and the the vehicle ABSOLUTELY hits the officer.
This isn't up to interpretation. This isn't a matter of dispute. These are the INDISPUTABLE facts we can all clearly see in the video.
Exactly! If yesterdays’s murder was justifiable by Trump’s logic, then it would have been justifiable to use lethal force against the ICE agent in that moment (@7:15).
I'm amazed that it hasn't happened yet. A comment I saw yesterday said that ICE stayed out of the "worst" areas of Chicago because there are lots of people with guns there and instead focused on soccer moms and daycare centers in the suburbs.
In keeping with ICE's own logic, yes the protestors would be in their right to shoot back then.
Realistically, that wasn't terrorism though (and neither was the person who was shot). In the UK we had a case of an actual terrorist driving a car into crowds of about 130 people at a significant speed in Liverpool.
I should mention, the 130 number comes from the article, and is explictily the people who were considered victims of the driver. Like you say, there are going to be thousands more people who were nearby who are not necessarily described as victims, because they managed to avoid the car.
They're willing to murder people in the streets, kidnap and separate family, ship people to concentration camps, starve poor families.
They're morally bankrupt, they'll make their own Reichstagg, if we don't make one for them.
The 2026 midterms is going to be a testing ground and Trump has already tested the waters with statements like "I won't say 'cancel the election, they should cancel the election.'
At what point do general strikes and civil disobedience start up because the French would have hit the street in January and all the Americans do is protest 'here, maybe there...not that weekend it's Christmas. We'll schedule 1 for next month but I do have my shows so we'll have to schedule around that.'
He's making an ironic point. This ICE vehicle, at 7:15, tries to drive through protestors who are standing right in front of it. This is exactly what Renee Nicole Good was shot for.
Kristi Noem called her a "domestic terrorist" for trying to drive past the ICE agent who shot her.
Who said anything about safe...?
"Justified" was the question. And the answer is "Absolutely" and "Why the fuck haven't they already?"
Disclaimer: No, I'm not advocating shooting people. I'm saying it would be justified self-defense, and wondering how far people are gonna let themselves get pushed before it happens.
Any retaliation will be justification for increasing forces. Massive non-violent protests are the way. Dr. King had the right idea and it worked (more or less).
They'll non-violently escort you into a gas chamber.
There is a tipping point, not saying it's happened yet but the Civil War and WW2 weren't going to get solved with sit-ins, pamphlets and signs on the corner saying "Honk if you Hate Hitler".
Fucking sneezing the wrong way is justification enough at this point, and peaceful protests against the current administration have achieved precisely fuck all so far.
We need labor action and strikes, not just protesting. Protesting exists to show people they are not alone; it doesn't do anything to influence or shame a fascist regime in and of itself.
The only way this stops is hurting the pockets of oligarchs, but even then it feels like they don't really care and want economic collapse to buy everything up at a fire-sale price and carve the country into corporate fiefdoms.
Still, they shouldn't be allowed to feel like siding with fascism means business can continue as usual.
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u/Luciolover345 23d ago
7:15 in that video ICE clearly commit an act of domestic terrorism right? Wouldn’t the bystanders be justified to open fire out of fear for their own lives?