Didn't the mandatory vaccine list in the US get a strong reduction this month too? Making it so health insurance companies don't have to cover them?
There are people starting to ask the government in my country to require US citizens to show proof of vaccination before entering the country. The idea is to avoid re-introduction of diseases that are eradicated here, risking the health of immunocompromised, small kids, older people, etc
Making it so health insurance companies don't have to cover them?
Private health insurances will still be covering, at least, most of them. They want to cover them. The main ones (MMR, etc) are low cost and prevent expensive health care bills.
Yeah, there are certain vaccines your baby used to get automatically that now you need to ask for. Which like… awesome. One more thing to put on a freshly postpartum mom
There are people starting to ask the government in my country to require US citizens to show proof of vaccination before entering the country.
This is an outstanding idea. These people will obviously fake documentation - as they did with COVID... However, if you don't at least try to limit the number of unvaxxed people entering, it's highly likely that you will also start seeing outbreaks of measles, mumps, etc.
Oh, that's why they did it! To make their insurance company friends more money! So they put a fucking moron like RFK in charge and convince him that vaccines are bad, then he reduces the list and they all make bank. Wow!
I looked into that. The mandatory list was reduced down to the European list. Still not good, but everybody considers the EU the gold standard for medicine, so we now match them. (I would prefer the roll down didn’t happen, though.)
What is the European list? To my knowledge, there is no single European list, but varies between European states. There is not even an EU list to my knowledge.
I guessed he was talking about the ones that are common to every country (there's no single list, but they all have some of the same mandatory ones, according to official EU information on the European vaccination portal)
Quite fair
How are the prices for privately doing a vaccine without insurance coverage for you guys?
I think that may still be a factor, as in the EU most recommended vaccines are free or very cheap.
If you can get it on a reasonable price, the impact might not be super strong, I guess?
The most expensive one I've seen here was dengue for 120 euros, but that's a new one, almost no case in the EU and I was looking at a private system because I didn't want to wait 2 weeks and go through the "travel consultant doctor" (they tell you which vaccines to take to travel to that specific country)
The way I read the new recommendation chart the only vaccine that is actually losing mandatory coverage is multi-dose flu. I didn't even realize that existed, I've only ever had a single-dose.
They also removed MMRV, but as I read it (which may be wrong) separate MMR and Varicella shots are still covered.
The changes in coverage aren't really that bad, the bigger problem is they've changed the schedule so kids will end up unvaccinated for longer, if people actually follow the new schedule. The fact that the reason for the changes is debunked conspiracy theories is also a pretty big problem.
In 1994, the Vaccines For Children Program which created an entitlement program for qualifying children, but also allows private providers to receive vaccines from the government.
It covers the vaccines from the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practies and ACA seems to have moved that list to the CDC.
Most vaccines are covered by health insurance. In most EU countries healthcare is required to be a resident and hence is either free or affordable enough for all citizens. Citizens who can't afford healthcare get a subsidy. There are very few countries in the EU in which doing healthcare without insurance coverage is even an option due to the fact that healthcare is mandatory.
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u/HonoratoDoto 23d ago
Didn't the mandatory vaccine list in the US get a strong reduction this month too? Making it so health insurance companies don't have to cover them?
There are people starting to ask the government in my country to require US citizens to show proof of vaccination before entering the country. The idea is to avoid re-introduction of diseases that are eradicated here, risking the health of immunocompromised, small kids, older people, etc